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Britain owe 31 trillion pounds haha

http://britishreparations.org/ this website reckons that Britain owes loadsa other countries 31 trillion quid. Thing I find the most funny is that they're going to show the petition to the queen as if the country is run by the monarchy ha. What do you lot think about this?


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http://britishreparations.org/ this website reckons that Britain owes loadsa other countries 31 trillion quid. Thing I find the most funny is that they're going to show the petition to the queen as if the country is run by the monarchy ha. What do you lot think about this?



Stupidity in an easy to access form, the internet.

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Great battle cry, it'll fetch just the right kind of people too.

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Seeing as the site is down, I could hardly care about it...

And as always handing something to the queen is more symbolic then anything else... But if I were you I still wouldn't really underestimate the power of the royal family


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http://britishreparations.org/ this website reckons that Britain owes loadsa other countries 31 trillion quid. Thing I find the most funny is that they're going to show the petition to the queen as if the country is run by the monarchy ha. What do you lot think about this?

I think it's really, very irrelevant.


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The site works now, and I have to say some of it is hilarious...

Britain is evil because it invented things and gave us factory's and modern technology... How incredibly evil, like life before those things was easy.


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What countries aren't in debt to someone?


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to start with the world back estimates that britain is owed around 36,000,000,000 from other countries but never mind

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British Empire plundered natural resources and enslaved native peoples then left without building the stable infrastructure or governments necessary for self-sufficiency.


lets have a look at some of these unstable and non self sufficient countries

Canada
Australia
India
Malta
Cyprus
Gibraltar
Egypt
Oman
Kuwait
Hong Kong
Singapore
Malaysia
New Zealand

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The terrorist threat has its roots in British mismanagement of the Middle East, particularly Saudi Arabia.


Britain never ran Saudi Arabia

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Bad Inventions. bad hygiene, Black Plague


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How did you come up with the £31 trillion figure?


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we came up with £31 trillion as a starting point by adding up the following costs: First Iraq War: $71 billion, Second Iraq War: $282 billion, the Darfur genocide


you can see how laughable the claims are...the darfur genocide...heehee...here's a question...

what came 1st...the British Empire...or Islam and Christianity?


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To many of those country's? The British Empire

Thing is still bullshit though


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Despite reperations themselves being bullshit, international reperations sound even more retarded.

"My Great great great grandad owned your great great great grandad, therefore I owe you money." or in this case "My country used to owe your country, therefore I owe you money."

And why Britain? Well, we ruled the world...by buying goods from one country to another so everyone got what they want and we make a profit, taking over countries that couldn't fight -- no that's wrong. They could fight, they did fight, and they lost. Not my problem Britain evolved faster than Australia.

Hasn't Britain already given enough? We have more immigrants than any other country in Europe. Our army is stabalising countries all over the world. We help other countries, build for them etc.


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What exactly has Britain done that's so awful?


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Genocide: Modern Britain was founded through the systematic erasure of indigenous culture and language. The English rounded up natives, seized their property, and forced them to relinquish their heritage and take on British language and culture as their own. Anyone who dissented faced extermination. This practice began in Scotland, Wales and Ireland and soon spread all over the world, where the British Empire plundered natural resources and enslaved native peoples then left without building the stable infrastructure or governments necessary for self-sufficiency.
Despite the fact that all the people who took over the land, left Britain and rebelled agianst Britain, and hated Britain. Also, these people came from other countries like Spain, France and Portugal. But the website neglects to mention how Spain and Portugal fought over the control of South America and that it is now more Spanish than Spain itself, how France ruled and took over Africa. And even before the colonal period, is this website going to blame the Vikings because they terrorised Europe, Arabia and Northern Canada? Or the Romans for defeating Greece and Celts? It seems to me that the author of this site doesn't realise that taking over new lands has been going around all over the world since the beginning of time. It's like saying white people slaving black people in America was the only type of slavery. Haha.

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The Industrial Revolution: Beginning in the 18th century, Britain began making our lives worse through the introduction of machines in the workplace. The health, safety, and wages of workers took a back seat to owners' greed for ever-higher output and profits. The skies above the city—first London, then the world—were filled with black smoke. Waters were poisoned with noxious chemicals. Under the careless watch Britain's elite, the Industrial Revolution got off to a horrible start, the consequences of which have continued to ring down through the centuries. The melting of the polar icecaps, the loss of countless plants and animal species, and the imperiled condition of the human race on a planet made poisonous by misapplied technology are all a consequence of British negligence and hunger to accumulate wealth at any cost.
The industrail revolution changed the world for the better. If it wasn't for it, that website, the person who made it, all of us, these computers, basically, the entire world as we know it wouldn't exist. Instead we would have a completely different world. Yes, it went off at a bad start, but it got better. now, we live twice as long as the people before the IR thanks to medicine from the IR. We have socialism, which wasn't here before the IR. etc.

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Global Misrule: The terrorist threat has its roots in British mismanagement of the Middle East, particularly Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia. Britain's imperialist past has so enraged Muslim extremists. Now America is deploying our sons, daughters, and tax dollars to clean up the mess that Britain made. The deaths caused by all the major wars of the 19th and early 20th century could have been prevented, or at least lessened, if the British hadn't waited until their backs were up against the wall before getting into the action. Most of the worst tyrants in power through the end of the 20th century were put there by the British, or came to power by filling the power vacuum the British Empire left behind.
We waited until our backs were up against the wall? We were the ones who declared world war. We were the ones who helped Europe against Germany both times. We were the ones who stopped the war, we are the ones encouraging eastern Europeans to move to Braitian to better their lives.

As for ruling the middle east, we didn't rule it as much as we ruled India, again, the author neglects to mention this.

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Bad Inventions: Machine guns, slums, prisons, child labor, bad hygiene, the Black Plague, concentration camps, you name it. If it hurts people, the British probably came up with it.
First I'm going to talk about this part. How did we invent the Black Plague? It went all over the world, like the Avian flu is doing now, are oyu going to blame us for that aswell? And Bad heigene? Or how about Child labour... Is this supposed to be a ****ing joke? Oh, and the machine gun is a German invention. That's why they had them in the WW1 and we didn't. But how wrong am I, the fact that I'm British is reason enough to assume I'm evil. Racist much?

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Strangely enough, Britain has been very aggressive about making other countries pay for their historical misdeeds. Like a herd of raging soccer hooligans looting their rival's capital after a victory, they've extracted exorbitant reparations payments from Germany, France, and China, among others. Now it's their turn to pay.
You are American. 'Nuff said.




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Some of you ignorant Yanks make me sick. Honestly.

The only thing I'll concede to is the terrorist threat , but it was indirect due to the whole 'We give you your own holy land' thing.


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I liked this bit:

"Iraq and terrorism? Britain mapped the Middle East."

Is the guy trying to imply that by mapping the Middle East, Britain somehow managed to create terrorism? It was followed quickly by:

"Slavery? Sir Francis Drake and his uncle, John Hawkins, shipped them over and founded the Royal Navy to protect their trade routes and markets."

Apart from the fact that slavery was not an invention by the British, they go on to say that Drake founded the Royal Navy. Where's the evidence of that ever occurring?


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I liked this bit:

"Iraq and terrorism? Britain mapped the Middle East."

Is the guy trying to imply that by mapping the Middle East, Britain somehow managed to create terrorism? It was followed quickly by:

"Slavery? Sir Francis Drake and his uncle, John Hawkins, shipped them over and founded the Royal Navy to protect their trade routes and markets."

Apart from the fact that slavery was not an invention by the British, they go on to say that Drake founded the Royal Navy. Where's the evidence of that ever occurring?
Exactly. Slavery has been around all over the world. The Vikings for one had slaves from Britain. Does this mean Denmark is now the responcible for Slavery? in fact, it was all over Europe!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_slave_trade

http://www.regia.org/earner.htm


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Exactly. Slavery has been around all over the world. The Vikings for one had slaves from Britain. Does this mean Denmark is now the responcible for Slavery? in fact, it was all over Europe!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_slave_trade

http://www.regia.org/earner.htm


Egypt was first, let's blame the Egyptians... That way we can still blame all the worlds problems on Arabs, that would be kinda cool smile


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Egypt was first, let's blame the Egyptians... That way we can still blame all the worlds problems on Arabs, that would be kinda cool smile
Why does everything always go back to Arabia. Just becasue they invented theism.


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Britain was the most powerful nation in the world.

Way back in the day. Imperialism happens, it doesn't really make them "evil".


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Why does everything always go back to Arabia. Just becasue they invented theism.


Because it's easy


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Because it's easy
Haha. Well I don't see the point in the richest attacking the poorest.


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Haha. Well I don't see the point in the richest attacking the poorest.


It's easier then attacking other rich country's....


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It's easier then attacking other rich country's....
People shouldn't attack any countries, especially since it's their fault.


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