The big one (for me any way, if it happens) who would win out of Sidious or Yoda

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Y-chromo kid
Forget Obi and Anakin, this is the one I want to see big grin

KidRock
i asked a question like this a while back and i got flamed by all the cool SW people saying it would never happen!

x-men
THERE WIL NOT BE A FIGHT IN THE FILM BETWEEN SID AND YODA BUT SIDIUS WOULD WIN BECAUSE HE HAS THE KYBER CRYSTAL AND HE IS 2ND IN THE MIDICLORIEN LIST AND YODA IS 4TH.

Capt_Fantastic
It could happen. And I think one on one, head to head Yoda would win, simply because Yoda uses the light side of the force. Yoda would approach it more calmly and rationally. Sideous would loose control and screw up because he'd become angry.

Y-chromo kid
I hope you`re right Capt. I would hate to see the little guy get his ass whipped smile

General Kaliero
Sorry, Kyber Crystal is EU...

And I'd like to see proof of this "Midichlorian List..."

"His levels are off the charts... They're even higher than Master Yoda's..." - OB1, TPM

I think that's sufficient proof that Yoda is the highest known...


As for the duel, I am hoping it will happen in the movie... and I think Sidious would win.

Yoda would get pushed off like a cliff or something, but survive, and flee to Dagobah in disgrace.

Darth Hater
IF they were to duel of course yoda would lose.there's no question about that.if yoda did win 4,5,& 6 would have been totally different.

Dexx
that was obi's saying about anakin..not sidious.
But sidious is second on the list after him..i think i saw this somewhere. Not that it has any real importance. the midichlorian count isn't everything. yoda could still kick anakin's white butt.

What's a kyber crystal anyway...

Ushgarak
It doesn;t matter who Obi-Wan was talking about, Dexx, GK's point stands- Obi-Wan was using Yoda as the exanple of the highest count, Not that he knows Sidiou's count, of course, and not as if there is ANY canonical list of counts anywhere, and we do not even know the direct relationship between count and power!

The Kyber crystal is a development in the EU of something GL was going to use in early Star Wars scripts but never did in the final product, so it is not at all canon, of course.

KidRock
i would think yoda and sidious would be 1 and 2 but i guess not. who are the top 5??? and whats the midiclorien list?

Dexx
yes, but what is the crystal?

actually..i found a list, mujaffa posted some time ago...doubt it's canonical, though


Anakin Skywalker = 27,700
Darth Sidious/Palpatine (with Kyber Crystal) = 20,000
Yoda = 17,700
Shintor Beerus (ancient Jedi Master) = 14,250
Ce Ce Denowai (the most powerful female Jedi) = 14,000
Ben(Jhon) Skywalker = 14,000
Anakin Solo (NJO) = 13,700
Count Dooku/Tyranus = 13,500
Obi-Wan Kenobi = 13,400
Kaja Sinis (the first Jedi) = 13,250
Darth Vader (after falling in the molten pit) = 13,000
Luke Skywalker = 12,500
Mace Windu = 12,000
Darth Maul = 12,000
Exar Kun (Dark Lord of the Sith during the Sith War)= 11,700
Darth Seer (Founder of the Sith Order)=11,200
Mara Jade = 11,000
Darth Sidious/Palpatine (without Kyber crystal) = 10,700
Tylus Liv=10,700
Jedi Master Corran Horn( from the New Jedi Order series of Star Wars novels) = 10,700
Darth Bane = 10,500
Joruus C'baoth=10,350
Darth Imperius (Darth Sidious' Master) =10,300
Plo Koon=10,300
Tahari Vehlia (NJO) = 10,300
Jedi Master Kam Solusar (NJO) = 10,100
Qui-Gon Jinn = 10,000
Leia Organa Solo = 10,000
Average Jedi = 10,000
Naga Sadow (Dark Lord of the Sith that fled to Yavin 4)= 9,400
Jedi Master Adeus Hust = 9,300
Jacen Solo (NJO) = 9,000
Jaina Solo (NJO) = 9,000
Jedi Master Cihgal (NJO) = 9,000
Darth Rage (Sidious' apprentice after Darth Maul) = 9,000
Jedi Master Tionne Solusar (NJO) = 8,500
Dezar Looger (Dagobah Dark Jedi)=8,400
Xio Jade = 7,400
Aurra Sing= 7,000
Need To be Considered for Training as a Jedi= 7,000
Padme Amidala = 4,700
Danni Quee (NJO Jedi Scientist)= 4,500
Shmi = 3,300
Lando Calsarrian = 1,500
Boba Fett= 1,500
Han Solo = 1,500
Jango Fett = 1,500

Ushgarak
Yup, utterly non-canon.

Oh, it is a crystal that amplifies the power of the force, or something.

KidRock
hows darth sidious master so low???

Dexx
he's a sissy, that's why stick out tongue

General Kaliero
Llaughing out loudL

Member.
yoda is getting older and weaker, but has extensive knowledge of the force+ god of lightsabers. sidious is a bit stronger so more stamina probably, could go longer fights. good knowledge of the force. but ultimately, yoda will probably win.

Rogue Jedi
using lightsabers: yoda
using force powers: sidious

finti
who would win?. That is pretty obvious if Yoda won there wouldnt be an Empire, so if there was a fight Sideous would have won and he kind of does too without fight Yoda at all

darkshadow
in my opinion that yoda would when because he has the more knowledge of the force and he would out force sidious in the force

finti
we dont know anything about Sidious knowledge of the force but it must be great hensing the fact he hides out who he is right under the nose of the JC

Dexx
yup...sidious' abilities are pretty much concealed by now. But i bet he's not bad

CHRISTIAN
Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader = 27,700
Darth Sidious/Palpatine (with Kyber Crystal) = 20,500
Yoda = 17,700
Luke Skywalker = 14,500
Leia Organa Solo = 14,500
Shintor Beerus (ancient Jedi Master) = 13,900
Ce Ce Denowai (the most powerful female Jedi) = 13,700
Ben (Jhon) Skywalker = 13,700
Anakin Solo (New Jedi Order novels) = 13,700
Count Dooku/Tyranus = 13,500
Obi-Wan Kenobi = 13,400
Kaja Sinis (the first Jedi) = 13,250
Kyle Katarn = 12,200
Mace Windu = 12,000
Darth Maul = 12,000
Kit Fisto = 11,800
Exar Kun (Dark Lord of the Sith during the Sith War) = 11,700
Yaddle = 11,300
Xanatos' (Qui-Gon Jinn's former apprentice) = 11,300
Darth Seer (Founder of the modern Sith Order) = 11,200
Plo Koon = 11,100
Mara Jade = 11,000
Darth Malak (Knights of the Old Republic video game) = 10,800
Jedi Master Corran Horn (from the New Jedi Order series of Star Wars novels) = 10,700
Ki Adi Mundu = 10,600
Darth Bane = 10,500
Joruus C'baoth = 10,350
Darth Imperius (Darth Sidious' Master) = 10,300
Shaak Ti = 10,300
Tahari Vehlia (New Jedi Order novels) = 10,300
Echuu-Shen Jon = 10,200
Jedi Master Kam Solusar (New Jedi Order novels) = 10,100
Aalya Secura = 10,000
Qui-Gon Jinn = 10,000
Average Jedi = 10,000
Naga Sadow (Dark Lord of the Sith that fled to Yavin 4)= 9,400
Jedi Master Adeus Hust = 9,300
Jacen Solo (New Jedi Order novels) = 9,000
Jaina Solo (New Jedi Order novels) = 9,000
Jedi Master Cihgal (New Jedi Order novels) = 9,000
Darth Rage (Sidious' apprentice after Darth Maul) = 9,000
Jedi Master Tionne Solusar (New Jedi Order novels) = 8,500
Dezar Looger (Dagobah Dark Jedi) = 8,400
Xio Jade = 7,400
Tylus Liv = 7,100
Aurra Sing = 7,000
Need To be Considered for Training as a Jedi = 7,000
Padme Amidala = 4,700
Danni Quee (New Jedi Order Jedi Scientist)= 4,500
Shmi = 3,300
Lando Calsarrian = 3,300
Boba Fett= 1,500
Han Solo = 1,500
Jango Fett = 1,500
i also think yoda would win because sidious without the crystal hes nothing

finti
that list is a load of crap

KidRock
kyle katarn stronger then mace..yea RIGHT and lando is higher then jango and boba??? if lando and jango/boba went at it jango/boba would murder him

Lucas Sucks!
One more of this threads and im going to throw up! Gee get a life!

Ushgarak
No need for that, LS, just stay out of the thread if you do not like it.

Dexx
why are you surprised...what does force attunance have to do wing jango, boba or lando?
Their training is something else.
the list is kinda crappy, though

finti
not kind of it is total crap and meaningless

Member.
u can't put them on a list. and yoda will win.

KidRock
agreed

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