hans mention of hell

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darth fester
in ESB han says " rot in hell"
does that mean they have christianity in that galaxy
or does hell mean something else

queeq
Actually he says: "Well, then I'll see you in hell." And I guess it's just a word for a bad place in the afterlife. It's sounds better than Hades or Seth's lair.

Ushgarak
Well, none of them are speaking English, are they? In a Distant Galaxy, and so on? It's all 'translated'. That's a translation of whatever word they would actually use.

ratcat
Good call Ush.

Darth Pants
HONESTLY, I was REALLY going to post about that very line today. I was going to list the funny things that you hear if you listen, can only remember one now: "If we can't get that shield repaired, we'll be sitting ducks" I'd love to see the ducks of Star Wars, reckon they'd look like ducks, or would they be huge, malformed, carnivorous beasts? QUUUAAACCCKKKK!!! mad

Ushgarak
Maybe they are big and fat, like Hutts...

Quackqukqukquaaackkqikqukquakjedimindtrickquack...

queeq
Howard the Duck in space... *shudders*

Gundark
I don't think a substitute for hell would have been appropriate for that scene. If George had used another word we had never heard of it probably wouldn't have had the impact that he wanted it to have in that scene. And that would be a word that someone like Han would use anyway.

darth fester
he should have made up some swear words

im sure han swears like a trooper

hahahahahaha ive never heard a stormtrooper swear

"theres one set for stun you bugger"

Darth Pants
It's the infrequent inclusion of lines like "you look strong enough to pull the ears off a Gundark" that add the best comic value. If the films were littered with lines which make no sense to us, they wouldn't be as entertaining to watch. Besides, how many viewings did it take people to notice the use of the word 'Hell'? As for swearing, I'm sure that "E Chuta!" is the closest we'll get, although when we first got introduced to Yoda, I just KNEW that R2 was mumbling some obsenities.

Ushgarak
Like:
"I KNOW him! I KNOW him! The little green *******! HE wouldn't train your father! if he had had FAITH, we might not be in this mess!"

jedi212guy
Well, many people say "blast," which I think is their way to say da*n.

Gundark
You're right 212...Luke says "blast it" in terms of swearing.

jedi212guy
I think Han says, "Well then I'll see you in Hell" because it is something that the audience can easily relate to. Almost everyone has heard that saying before.

Darth Pants
If they wanted to be really anally retentive, they could have had the whole dialogue in a different language because English didn't exist, but one has to draw the line between unbelievably like Earth:now and stupidly and unenjoyably alien. They allowed for English dialogue, with the odd Earth phrase thrown in to relate to the audience. It couldn't have worked better if you ask me.

darth fester
ok then when luke went to dagobah you could see the screen on his x-wing which was in an alien language
so why then do they call them x-wing fighters
ps...i dont mean to be flippant

Ushgarak
For 'x', substitute any letter in whatever language they use which is cross-shaped.

ratcat
I think you need to be a little bit creative in your mind here. The text was done basically to save them having to make up loads of techno-talk like they do in Star Trek.

Ushgarak
God, just HOW has that become WORSE lately? It's almost as if the ST writers have become self-satirical...

ratcat
That's why they call it Techno-babble.

AND the topic was "Hans Mention of Hell"

Gundark
As far as the screen in Luke's x-wing, DF....that was R2's beeps and whistles translated into written word that Luke could read and thus know what R2 was saying. It wasn't alien, just written "basic" which is what is commonly spoken in the SW universe.

Darth Pants
Funnily enough, though, the Imperials seem to use that style of text too, yet in the Death Star, the tractor beam controls are clearly in English.Hmmmm.

ratcat
Missed that one.

*Rushes for VCR*

ChelsiJediKnight
It is weird that Han would say that. It is even weirder because, unless I am missing something, they never even say Oh My God! Or even take his name in vain. But then you gotta think about. Greek Mythology did not have A God, it had several Gods and Godessess. But they did have a Hades. An after world. And that is exactly what Han Solo could have meant. But that is just my theory agreeing with more previous answers.

big grin null

ratcat
I think that the actual word is basically irrelevant. It was meant to signify a bad place and GL chose to use a word widely recognised as being bad.

Someone said about it being a best translation, I think that's the only way to look at it.

Ushgarak
I said it. I think we agree here; no point reading into it.

ratcat
One thing that bothers me about that though is that they took the time to come up with the Spice Mines of Kessel and that wasn't explain, though we all got that it was implicitly bad. Why not do the same with Hans words and let the audience figure it out?

I think the translation idea does work best though...

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