For those who like a real argument....
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Matrix_man
Hey i got a question for all ya...who would win in a fight out of Neo and Superman. both can fly, and both can stop bullets. its your call...
ITALIAN926
I vote for neither, I choose Mighty Mouse.
Matrix_man
come on lets be serious. this question came up a few days ago and ive been arguiung with my mates ever since. im interested to know what you all come up with...
miggfl
Neo is essentially super man, but Superman has laser vision. I suppose if neo could stop lasers from hitting him like bullets it'd be a fair match. I do have to say though superman seems way way way stronger than neo. Neo is fast and super human in strength, but neo swinging a pole full speed only threw smith what, 50 feet?
Superman can knock someone into space for gods sakes.
So I say superman.
Matrix_man
thats a very good point, however where superman has the strength, he also has the weakness towards kryptonite. that could be a factor as to who is truly stronger
burlyman
they wanted to make neo a believable superhereo
miggfl
well i would assume no cheating like that =(
I mean if we are cheating, we could have superman force neo out of the matrix into the real world where superman would own him like a wet paper bag.
Matrix_man
ok then, how about the fact that neo also possesses powers outside the matrix. but i guess we'll have to watch Revolutions to understand the full extent of that.
also, neo can be shot in the chest many times and still come back to life. he can also bring others back to life
dave123
neo: "i need some kryptonite... fast"
operator "alrite...."
superman "oooooH S**T!"
realworlddreams
thats a dum arguement.
JediHDM
yeah, i think that Neo would win, assuming, of course, they are in the matrix and Zion is real...Neo can rewrite the code of the Matrix, so he has an instant advantage
clavis9495
Neo can get lots a guns and superman cant so I choose Neo
miggfl
The ability to rewrite the matrix hasn't really been seen outside of bending the spoon. Otherwise he's just displayed super powers. And guns don't affect superman anymore than they do neo, other than the fact that they can just bounce of supes.
I still think supes.
rysdigital
uhm, he's rewriting the matrix constantly, *BY USING* his superpowers? u didn't get that part?
also, neo has something way better than superman's laservision
he can read the matrix code.
rysdigital
LOL
miggfl
"uhm, he's rewriting the matrix constantly, *BY USING* his superpowers? u didn't get that part?"
Ry, you know what i meant assmunch
I know he's doing that to bend the rules. But have you seen dark city? where he rebuilds the city, and flips the space station around to see the sun? Thats rewriting some stuff!
What i mean by my statement, is he hasn't altered the reality of the matrix in any permanent fashion. Other than bending the spoon he hasn't shown any other ability to rewrite anything physical.
CandyKoRn
I'd go for neo.. he doesn't have any weaknesses (like Kryptonite)
does he?
rysdigital
he revived Trinity. and probably more, but i can't be arsed to think of more
CandyKoRn
At the end of Reloaded, that was nothing? I think not.. lol
-=Urot=-
I say En Sabah Nur a.k.a Apocalypse would kick both of their candy a$$es!!
LONG LIVE MARVEL!!
w00t! w00t!
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rysdigital
/me dies laughing
Matrix_man
I think you'll agree that Neo is more than just human, hes almost a program of the Matrix, giving him an upper hand against superman. however powerful superman may be, hes still superMAN! only human! so i think Neo would prevail in the end
JediHDM
Neo is still "only human", however, he has the upper edge...
dave123
in real world: neo loses b4 the fight begins
in matrix: neo wins hands down
Matrix_man
ok, well heres another question, who would u rather be...Superman or Neo?
dave123
hmmm, lets see, <sarcasm> superman, his clothes are cool </sarcasm>
Matrix_man
out of interest, how many of u agree that the image of superman is gay? yes or no (plus reason if u want)
JediHDM
i do not think the image of Superman is gay: he is secure in his masculinity...
Dave> HAHA
clavis9495
I'm still stickin with Neo coz he's out the matrix so a REAL superhero and Superman is still in the matrix so he's just dreaming...
So I'd say DREAM ON!!!
yeah he is gay neo looks way cooler in his black outfit and I like the sunglasses and lois is just so dumb that she can't see it's superman while he doesn't wear any shades or something to make him irrecognisable. Trin (cant believe I'm saying this) is smarter coz she can hack NSD database...
JediHDM
w00t, now we just gotta keep working on Korri, she'll break eventually...
clavis9495
so true JediHDM but am I right or what!!! *eats two baskets of cookies*
Dryden
you cant compare neo with any superhero becuase his powers come from the matrix itself....so unless you argue the matrix vs Superman its not a fair fight.
Korri
Neo wins coz he is just so.......
and he has his own angel
Clark Kent
LOOK! At the end of the day, superman will kick neos butt cos outside the matrix neo is nothing but a puny little human!!!!!
Korri
that was harsh!!
Matrix_man
LOOK! at the end of the day superman is gay and neo aint, so neo cud whup his red silk thong wearing A$$!!!
clavis9495
superyay! well still sticking with Neo coz neo is awake and alive at least he's real superman still sleeping and Neo has got sidekicks (which points out he has got some true friends) Superman acts alone(which indicates what a stupid lonely loser he is)
Korri
yeah Neo has an angel
clavis9495
I really should stop eating
Korri
huh?
Eric797
Neo could stuff a red pill up Superman's @ss, find an exit, trace the signal, then find the pod where he's at, then do him in while he's still sleeping. Neo and Superman........that ain't even a fight.....Neo wins hands down....end of conversation.
Dryden
now that Ive wasted 30mins of my life.....im going back to the main forum...lol
audioheem
You mean this
http://www.telegraaf.nl/krant/naslag/filmrecensies/film.christ.reeve.superman.jpg
versus this...?
http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_img/reloaded_35.jpg
Korri
the sexy 2nd one wins
JediHDM
look at how fast Neo goes, Superman cant MATCH that speed...(yes, i know supercan can fly around the world really fast)
Matrix_man
woah, cool pics audioheem! i defy anyone who dares say that superman looks cooler than neo in those pics!
Matrix_man
lol at 'supercan'
-=Urot=-
Well atleast Neo can walk in the real world... >:}
*** Ducks out of the way of the flying rocks! ***
dave123
urot, that was un-needed....
plus if we are gonna talk about the actors, let Korri finish it
Matrix_man
yeh theres no question there. plus neo's clothes and hair are way cooler than supermans blue tights and underpants worn on the outside
-=Urot=-
I knew someone was going to try and hit me with a rock.
Shame on you Dave!
What about my 1st ammendment right of freedom of speech?
I hope you know I was kidding.
rysdigital
i don't think it's funny to joke about someone not being able to walk. do you?
-=Urot=-
Oh god dont tell me you all are about to get serious on me?? Sheesh!
Since when did you all become so thin skined??
Dang i'll take the walking comment back.
Happy now? x_x
*** Walks away thinking about the error of his ways. ***
dave123
first off, do what u want in america
second, i didnt mean to make it sound like i was having a go, just that this was meant to be about Neo (not keanu) and superman (whoever his actor is...)
rysdigital
see if you think that kind of jokes are funny, when you or a relative get crippled.
i'm willing to help if needed.
Matrix_man
thats true ry. lets stick to the point of characters, not the actors that play them
-=Urot=-
It has already happened. My grandfather died from agent orange.
He had living worms coming out of his pours. He went blind and could not walk. Since he could not move we had to give him dialysis at home because his kidneys failed. So I know about hurt and pain.
Hell I have my own prpblems right now, but I dont b*tch and moan about them. I just live life one day at a time.
Life is too short to take everything so seriously.
rysdigital
heh, so much for respect for the dead. might as well dance on his grave.
let's get back on topic.
droopy1592
Uh, You guys forget that while NEO resurrected trinity, Superman went around the earth so fast that time went backwards, so he could bring Lois back to life.
As for the fight, I believe NEO could match anyone at anything in the matrix. Superman would be knocked all around, through the ground... and in Superman 3 (I think) those other guys from Krypton hit Superman with a Bus and he was hurt pretty bad.
If Superman couldn't beat the Hulk without taking him to outerspace, what makes you think he could beat NEO, when NEO could just JUMP inside superman and jack his code all up.
droopy1592
Neo stopped a sword with his bare hands...
-=Urot=-
I have respect, but I also can joke about it. My grandfather was my heart. It was very painful to see him like that, but even though he was hurting real bad he still was able to laught at himself.
Yes it a shame C.R. cant walk, but i dont think he would want anyone to feel sorry for him.
Even Richard Pryor made fun of his misfourtune after he set himself on fire.
Like I said before life is too short to be so serious all the time.
rysdigital
who coined that expression 'life is too short to ..'?! of course, it's bull. life is not short. average life span of a human is over 70 years. that's a long ****ing time.
-=Urot=-
*** OK I"M ON FRIGGIN TOPIC!
***
Neo is better that Superman!
Enuff Said!
dave123
life isnt short, its the longest thing we have
Matrix_man
ok well i know the matrix may seem a little absurd, but turning back time? that is jus plain dumb. u cant do that. u wud need all the energy in the universe. its jus plain stupid. it wudnt happen in real life. and if it did then it wudnt happen exclusively to earth, it wud happen 2 the whole universe. and it wudnt stop.
jus plain dumb
-=Urot=-
Compaired to a few millennia or eternity its short.
According to the bible some people lived close to a thousand years.
*** Now i'm not saying it right or wrong. ***
clavis9495
owkee owkee we get it but: NEO RULES!!! he's way better then that stupid gay superdidooman
droopy1592
Lehloo Dallas, multipass
Clark Kent
Neo is only a plain man in real world while superman is pure kryptonian, not human so SUPERMAN would beat him any day!!! bring it on!!!!!
Matrix_man
At the end of the day, both Neo and superman are given their powers by the matrix. outside the matrix they were both normal humans living inside pods with no real consciousness. so they only have powers in the Matrix, and we all know neo could wipe the floor with superman in the Matrix. so i say shove a piece of Kryptonite up supermans A$$ and send him packing to his home planet. that'll show him whos boss.
if there is anyone else who thinks neo could be beaten, then say so now, otherwise this argument is settled and Neo wins
Matrix_man
ok i count 16 votes for neo and 5 votes for superman...so neo wins. thanks for settling that for us guys.
Korri
Link: hes doing his superman thing
but he does it so much better!!
clavis9495
erm... well I'm still stickin to the superman-is-still-dreamin thing
At least Neo is out!!!
And Neo is the one so there are thousands of people who could be superman and there is only one Neo
droopy1592
Spiderman's like... WTF?
droopy1592
You know, finding out he's in the matrix and stuff...
JediHDM
i dont think they CAN kill the one, except when the carrier realizes he IS the one...
Roopoo_s
what do you mean by the carrier?
droopy1592
Uh, why could they kill him when he knows he's the one???
Roopoo_s
apart from unpluging him for real? i'm not sure, however if there primary objective was to terminate the one or at least stop him why dont they kill the key maker, i mean there were ample opertunities to killthe key maker on the truck alone
JediHDM
They're purpose is not to kill the One, or the Keymaker, or the Oracle...they are made to THINK that is their objective, but they will NEVER be able to do it, because it is made so that they cannot...If you understand that. the carrier is Neo.
Roopoo_s
isnt that what i just said?
JediHDM
no, you asked WHY they dont, i answered
Roopoo_s
no i didnt i asked what you ment by carrier
JediHDM
i said who the carrier was, then i answered the question you posed in the post previous to mine
Matrix_man
y is it so quiet on this thread? sum1 say sumthing!
Korri
urm...hello?
Matrix_man
thats gud enuf 4 me.
lol anyone else out there?
Korri
*waves* im still here
Matrix_man
good ur the only one 2 keep me company. staaaaaay! and u can have a cookie!
Korri
a cookie?
thank u
Matrix_man
post one more reply and my thread will be a century! u do the honours korri...and u can have a whole basket of cookies
Korri
U STOLE MY PICTURE!!
Matrix_man
lol sorryyyyyyy it was jus so perfect 4 my reply.
i didnt think you would mind
Korri
im sad now
Matrix_man
heres a bunny
please feel better!
Korri
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/images/moresmilies/boxed.gif must....follow....white...rabbit
-=Urot=-
Korri dont follow that rabbit down that hole! Its dark down there!
Oh wait Neo is down there.
*** Carry on!
***
Korri
oh really....http://www.killermovies.com/forums/images/moresmilies/naughty.gif
Matrix_man
someones cheered up!
clavis9495
What did you there were Neon lights down there!! I'm going down too!!
Korri
that would be embarrasing
clavis9495
No they would be all pretty and shiny and stuff!!!
clavis9495
NEO IS BETTER THEN SUPERMAN
Korri
clavis> that aint what i ment
Matrix_man
hey korri, sorry agen 4 stealing ur pic! 2 make up 4 it i made u a new sig. dunno if u'll like it. u dnt hav 2 use it of course, but keep it anyway
Korri
thats really kewl
ill keep that in mind
Matrix_man
so ur not mad nemore yeh?
Matrix_man
yay *eats a cookie*
Matrix_man
umm.....no
can i have one?
CarlEnnui
Matrix_man> The Neo in that first signature looks like Lieutinant Dan from Forest Gump
Matrix_man
u mean the one for korri?
hmm
badkittykitty
I am getting to know you and your arguement...*I am real close*
Korri
he looks nothing like him!!
Plasma
Where is the fight?
Real (REAL) World Superman without doubt
Matrix- Neo as he is a blighter to kill!
(yes its pedantic to gets so anal about a simple who'd win question but im a perfectionistic fool!
Dryden
http://www.dj-fuchs.com/miscpics/forumpics/deargod_stop.jpg
Matrix_man
jus wanted to bump this....it was the 1st thread i ever made! memories.....
mailedbypostman
A stroll down memory lane....good memory, good memory,...AGH BAD MEMORY! OKAY GOODBYE!
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