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Well, I guess I'm a Newbie to you guys but I hope you don't push it in.
Why? Well, I've been reading this forum for over a month now and wanted to reply and such, but my activation e-mail whatever never came, and my e-mail worked. Eventually I started a new account and now it works. Mods, I don't know how to delete my old account, so it's still there. Anyway, now that I FINALLY am able to post, I have a couple of questions...

1) Mobil Ave. is Limbo, right? Well, Hel Club can be considered Hell. So what would heaven be? The Real World? 01? I have no clue...

2) That pic with Marph, Trin, and Seraph walking down the hall (one of the new 35), is that to/from the Oracle? What about the hall where the lights go out one by one? Wonder if anyone knows this...

Anyway, if you can answer them for me I'd appreciate it. I'll give you some Smiddy cookies and start dancin':

as long as your Q's aint in the FDT, and you dont post spoilers, you aint a noob

and change ur status, cos that makes you noob-like aswell

Okay. Ya I saw the FDT over and over again before... Man, I was on here reeeeeeeally long and it never occured to me to make a new account...

yah, just dont give out any spoilers...thats the most annoying thing about newbies. So just say NO to spoilers

Why do you think my Location says "Spoiler - Free World"? I f****** hate them!

Haha...very good, then our matrix family can easily accept you

Why thank you!

Uhhhh... could someone try and answer my questions, please?

For instance, Jedi? You probably have some insight and acceptable answers...

yes when neo is at mobile ave hes in limbo
as for heaven.. i dunno but i believe when neo takes his next step in his evolution or acsending.. or whatever u wanna call it he will be like godish search for seifers posts about this.. I think the hell reference is more so just showing you more about the mero's character though.. the links about mythology especially around persephone support that a lot

the pic is them going to the mero.. notice the guns drawn at one point.. dont think they are being welcomed with open arms

lol welcome

i hate spoilers.......thats how Rotk was ruined for me
oh and dave love the new sig you and burly crack me up

ya..

good, and ur cool

am i not kewl?

er yeh see harry potter forum

oooook

why thankee

mmm a newbie,
remember this.

good charlotte sucks.

ok your good.

ya, excuse my random posts.

that is kewl

Thanks forumcrew...

listen to my wisdom...and you'll be fine.

Ookee Dokee...

but not really. I'm hardly ever here.

Yeah... I know. Like I said, I've been here a while...

yup. but still.

I just have NO time.

I really need to get ready fo work.

k bye.

Mobile Ave, that's the prestigious restaurant thing, isn't it? Well, Limbo/a limbo is where you put things that you want to get rid of.You'd want to get rid of stuff from the old Matrices, eg. older Agents, the Virii Twins, etc. There we go. Pretty-pretty. 01 is built in the 'Holy Land' in the Middle East... strangely, Zion is built right underneath 01, thinking about it (bit of a strange place to hide the last of your kind, don't you think?)

AI.

i dont think its built straight under, in ffoto:
thad: oh no look where we are, whats 4 km straight down
jue: zion!

they (we) would have seen 01

In the Animatrix, we learn that the machines built a city, 'Zero One', in the cradle of civilization, the Middle East. The humans then build a city, 'Zion'. Zion's in the Middle East, specifically the hill where Jesus Christ was crucified.

Something else that doesn't quite fit and is just me being a bit skeptical..

Zero One?


AI

Yeah, the Mobil Ave. thing has been considered a "Loop" in computer programming, so nothing can get out, except by that train. (Which, in fact, is labeled "LOOP" I remember reading this about a month ago, when I couldn't post...

yeah, oh well ikobe

Yeah The "Zero One becoming Zion" thing... I heard someone say that at the end they may turn out to be the same thing...

I say that's impossible, but who knows...

hey how comes neo and trin have to flay all the way to 01 accross the surface if its above it. near maybe, or else they would just have to fly straight up.

Well, maybe they can't enter from below...

Well, the machines are digging down, and if THEY'RE having trouble, I'd like to see the humans do better


AI.

But the point is the humans can get there faster through the pipelines or whatever... The machines are digging because Humans are defending the pipelines...

"They'll avoid our entire perimeter defense."

Hm - surely they'd just send, like, a storm of free Sentinels down the pipeline to Zion to cause a bit of random destruction, wouldn't they? Either way, 01's probably brimming with big, evil robots. Hm, speaking of which, don't you think the red war turbines in SecRenII look reminiscent of the giant war pyramid in Stargate SG1?

AI.

Hehe yeah. I was watching that show a couple of days ago. Anyway, I don't think the machines want "random destruction"... Efficiency is most likely their highest goal...

And causing the vile human race as much pain as possivle in the process. MUAHAHAHA DIE.

I mean... uh...

AI.

But machines are obsessed with effeciency, nonetheless.

Yeah, SecRenI puts that across pretty damn well.

Of course, the Sec. Rec. has been considered created by machines... Another form of control... Some think they use the Zion archive to control Zion...

I don't know, though...

That sounds a little strange. Unless Smith, now free from the 'system', wants to get into the Zion mainframe, which the machines have control of, and take it over himself, being the megalomaniac that he is... just a theory, probably wrong, blah blah blah.


AI.

Yeah...

Blah, Blah, Blah.

Took the words right out of my mouth...

No, but Smith was after the codes WITH the others...

(I just read your post while actually trying to understand it.)

So... that leads to the arguement of why the machines needed the codes... oh, man...

the MACHINES don't need the codes, the Agents are trying to get them because, it is in their programming, it is all a ruse...designed specifically to do one thing: make the ONE realize he is the ONE, and force him to try and stop the war...(although the machines in the "real world" also serve this function...)

I'll take your word for it.

Hey, this thread went way off my questions... I still want a second opinion...

alrite, if "the path of the one if made by many" including the agents and everyone else, how comes you can still die in EtM?

oh yeah...... its just a game

im making tha my 'trademark laff'
unless someone else has already

Okay... that doesn't answer my questions at all, but it's funny.

Whoa... just saw this on the smiley list:

And thought this: