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OK, I dont mean to be like annoying, but I just got given this list yesterday and some of the stuff that is tested on animals shocked me...
Products that are tested on animals include:
Giorgio Beverly Hills
Head & Shoulders
Wash n' Go
Everything listed does test final products and/or ingredients on animals, or is owned by a company that does test on animals and/or is involved in other forms of animal exploitation and extreme cruelty
Christian Dior(Supports Fur Trade)
Eli Lilly & Co
Bausch & Lomb
Johnson & Johnson
S.C. Johnson (Pledge, Mr Muscle, Toilet Duck, Glade, Goddards, Raid)
Kimberley-Clark (Kleenex, Huggies)
Yves St Laurent
Chesebrough-Ponds Prince Matchabelli
Procter & Gamble (Max Factor, Old Spice,Oil of Olay, Vicks,Pampers, Pringles,Head & Shoulders,
Wash & Go, Tampax,Clearasil, Hugo Boss,
Milton, Eukanuba, Lams)
Unilever (Pears, Lux, Dove, Lifebouy,
Timotei, Sunsilk, Salon Selectives,Organics, Sure, Shield, Impulse, Vaseline,Brut, Surf, Sunlight, Skip, Omo,
Persil Comfort, Vim, Domestos,Close-Up, Mentadent, Rama, Flora,
Stork, Royco, Colman's, Walls Ice-Cream,
Lipton Tea, Birds Eye Frozen FoodsCalvin Klein Elizabeth Arden
Elizabeth Taylor Chloe)
Smithkline Beecham (Horlicks, Gaviscon,Lucozade, Ribena, Oxy,
Aquafresh, Macleans, Tums,Phillips milk of Magnesia,
Eno, Tagamet, Grandpa,Panadol, Paramed)
*Im sorry that some are repeated more than once and some others are not included on the list that you may be aware of.
I cannot stand testing on animals; but I can put up with that for medical research. Sorry to bother those that don't give a damn....
X BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS? X
X CHANGE YOUR BRANDS!!!
no testing on animals!!
the was because I didn't know how to produce bulleted lists on here; and on another forum you put them in it..... but this one is obviously different
Important medical that need to be tested should be tested on animals in a HUMANE way. But the majority like shampoos or nail varnish definetley shouldn't!
I dont really approve of medical research either to be honest; they treat the animals they test on like S**t, when the should be treated like heroes because thats what they sort of are.
I noticed Iams on the lists. Um, that is cat/dog food, so maybe they're just "taste-testing"!
No, I don't like cosmetic testing on animals, either. There may be some acceptable medical research, but definately not on cosmetics. There are plenty of people out there willing to be "guinea pigs" (pardon the pun). Of course, the companies would have to pay the people or offer products, etc. It is quite sad!
im very much so against animal cruelty.......unless for a worthy cause
and some animals however are bred for the sole prupose of these tests
oh and im very happy that at least they dont test on endangered species and such
Iams and Eukanuba are both pet foods on the list - yes!
Like Iams and many other “pet” food manufacturers, Menu Foods conducts tests to measure the “metabolic energy” of dog and cat food. Such tests are inherently cruel because they involve severe confinement in stainless-steel metal cages. PETA’s undercover investigation at a testing laboratory with which Menu Foods contracts found countless examples of cruelty and neglect.
During the tests, dogs and cats are forced to live in cold, hard, barren stainless-steel cages with no toys or beds. PETA’s investigator took video footage of animals circling endlessly in their cages, suffering the severe effects of lack of stimulation, exercise, and socialization. Metabolic cages are approximately the size of a cage that your vet might use for animals recovering from surgery. Imagine keeping your companion animal in such a cage day after day, year after year! You wouldn’t do it. But Menu Foods dogs had no choice and virtually no life.
ace, always, pringles,...?!!!
i'm with you all the way...
animal right are the key of the solution... you can see how they expose all the explotation of the abuse that have been done to the animal... there is alway a alternative research for product/cosmatic item... so do it the right way.. out cry for freedom!!
dont care for animals
well I feel two sided on this one
I don't like it that they have to test these products on animals, certainly not make-up
but I'd rather have them test in on animals than testing it on humans.
I dislike unnecessairy testing but not all testing done by companies that make food is unnecessairy.
don't get me wrong I love animals and all that, but animals raised and born in captivity get very lil compassion from me
they have to test pringles??? the chips? that's just plain torture!
ok, now seriously
I'm absolutely opposed against testings on animals,
of course there are products that need testing because they could be, if they are made up wrong, leathal for humans...
though even in that case, I oppose the testings
Always knew you were the animal loving type Mr Fint!
Then how would they have to test it?
if it's needed, still on humans
kittens! puppies! *cries*
*cries and hugs cermie*
*hugs back* it's so mean!
i no i would hate for that to happen to my puppy
*cries* it's so horrible! i mean, it's horrible that they use animals for medical purposes but i understand that. Cosmetitc testing is just torture.
i no *cries* we need some guys in here to make us feel better
where are they all????
if we cry load enough they might hear us
I dont want to force anyone into changing their brands I just want people to be aware; well those who care that is.
I do alot for animal rights; I go to alot of protests. Infact theres one of the 6th dec in Huntington.
Also please be aware its not necessarily these products that are tested on the animals; it could be companies that back/finance the animal testing carried out!
Id never want any human to also endure the suffering caused by these experiments. I just really fight for better welfare for the animals in all experiments and the banning of all experiments that are not necessary at all.
we are aware tis so sad we need guys
Testing on animals, IMHO a necessary evil
How on Earth does one test Always on animals???
Right, answer me this.
How come I have never met anyone who thought that testing leisure products on animals was right...
... but also have never met anyone who actually did anything about it?
I hate to call people out here but I doubt any of you who were not before are going to boycott ANY of those products because of this. And that is because people's true moral convictions in this area are just not as strong as they say. If they were being tested on unwilling humans you would never use the product again, but animals- people just do not care enough about to do anything.
And that is the way it is, so don't be blaming me...
My position on this is very utilitarian... so I had best not share it.
gotta test products on something, animals are cheap and effective.
There ya go BF!
I am not all about animal cruelty...I hate to think about bad things happening to animals. Unfortunately I have to agree that it is a necessary evil. As a microbiologist I have learned a lot about the process (not a pretty one at all), however, it is necessary in order for these products to be proven 'safe' before they can be marketed.
Once again, not saying I like it, but it something that unfortunately has to be done.
funny thing is that they showed those Survivor(Norwegian version) people killed and eat a cat and people went crazy and condemning it in the media . Same weekend they showed a really really violent documentary from Iraq where you saw people being shot , but you didnt hear a thing about that .
Im part of the alf....Im a vegan and I go to protests...
Ive took part in things to kidnap 1,000 battery chickens and re-home them...Im one of the few that actually DOES SOMETHING.
I buy all my products as either a tesco or superdrug brand (the dont test their products or anything in them on animals and so far it hasn't killed anyone
Probably will eventually.
If they can't test products, then they may be dangerous to humans.
Testing on animals is probably the most accurate way to distinguish what is or isn't safe for humans.
Ok...number 1 that was front page news headlines about people being shot im Iraq... Ive never even heard of that story of the cat.
Number 2, about 6 months ago 70,000 sheep on a boat off the shore of new zeland died of heat whilst travelling. The story took up a 10cm square in the middle of the newspaper. Nothing happened about it;...no charges were pressed and the animals bodies were thrown over board.
How many people kicked up a fuss?
Answer me that!
So animals have the same bodies as humans.... did you ever hear of the birth product that was tested on mice and worked then was put on the market and caused mutilations within babies born?
Also its not the animal testing that annoys me; its the way they treat the animals..... so some animal has to be treated by living in a tiny cage all its life with no interaction with other animals/toys, no walks.... just so you dont feel slightly ill....?
Im sooo shoked about some of those iteams on the list.
Like some of you know, im a veterinary nurse and atleast 20 of those iteams are suppliers for vets! How harsh is that!!
Eukanuba and IAMS are the same company, Hills is also another pet food company and apparently one of the best food suppliers in the world!
Where i work we recommend Hills!
I am totally shocked!
i did link it to Norway
SO? guess we got a fluffy sea then
Yes, because it could be much more devistating then simply feeling "slightly ill". If they released products that aren't tested on animals that have similar characteristics as humans, then there's no telling what infection could occure.
As far as I'm concerned, animal testing is completely necessary.
well guess thats your opinion...*sighs*...
finti...Im glad to see how much you care. I hope to god you never suffer of heat on a boat and die of a consequence; but I guess empathy is not a skill you have.
BF... I believe it is also necessary to some standards, I believe that i want to find a cure for many illnesses out there. But I want more humane standards.
I believe that many experiments are uneccessary. One animals life seems unimportant to these scientists; if they accidently break their necks while putting them ina metal machine or they cant be bothered to use anaesthetic while they operate. It makes me feel sick.
http://www.iamsodead.com/iams.html - more about iams.
http://www.shac.net - more about animal testing, it also shows how it effects people and makes them ill. Its NOT just animals that suffer.
If you think animal experiments are neccecary consider the following:
-Less than 2% of human illnesses (1.16%) are ever seen in animals. Over 98% never are.
-At least 50 drugs on the market cause cancer in lab animals. They are allowed because it is admitted that animal tests are not relevant.
-When asked if they agreed that animal experimentation can be misleading because of anatomical and physiological differences between animals and humans, 88% of doctors agreed.
-Rats are 37% effective in identifying what causes cancer in humans. Flipping a coin would be more accurate.
-According to animal tests lemon juice is deadly poison, but arsenic, hemlock and botulin are safe.
-40% of patients suffer side effects as a result of prescription treatment.
-Over 200,000 medicines have been released most of which are now withdrawn. According to the World Health Organisation, 240 medicines are ‘essential’.
-Thousands of drugs passed safe in animals have been withdrawn or banned due to their effect on human health.
-Aspirin fails animal tests, as do digitalis (heart drug), cancer treatments, insulin (causes animal birth defects), penicillin and other safe medicines. They would be banned if results from animal experimentation were accurate.
-When the producers of thalidomide were taken to court, they were aquitted after numerous experts agreed animal tests could not be relied on for human medicine.
-At least 450 methods exist with which we can replace animal experiments.
-Morphine puts humans asleep but excites cats.
95% of drugs passed by animal tests are immediately disgarded as useless or dangerous to humans.
-One is six patients in hospital are there because the drug they have taken had been passed safe for us on humans after animal tests.
Worldwide, at least 22 animals die every second in labs. In the UK one animal dies every five seconds.
-The contraceptive pill causes blood clots in humans but it had the opposite effect in dogs.
-We use aspirin for aches and pains. It causes birth defects mice, rabbits and rats.
-Researchers refused to believe that benzene could cause cancer in humans because it failed to in animal tests.
Dogs failed to predict heart problems caused by the cardiovascular drugs encainide and flecainide, which led to an estimated 3,000 deaths in the USA.
-Heart by pass surgery was put on hold for years because it didn’t work on dogs.
-If we had relied on animal tests we would still believe that humans don’t need vitamin C, that smoking doesn’t cause cause cancer and alcohol doesn’t cause liver damage.
-It was denied for decades that asbestos caused disease in humans because it didn’t in animals.
-Polio researchers were mislead for years about how we catch the disease because they had experimented on monkeys.
-As one researcher points out, “the ultimate dilemma with any animal model of human disease is that it can never reflect the human situation with complete accuracy."
like I said earlier, I dont care for animals.
and empathy aint a skill its a weakness
Well, like I said Blakangel, animals are a cheap, effective and abundant way of testing. That's all the companies and the scientists care about.
That may not be pleasing to you, but it's true, that's why animals testing is the main testing done when testing products.
i say lets use Swedes for testings
what is this picking on Canadians all aboot
I wouldn't protest over either of those creatures being tested on.
They like to live in their hoouses too, eh.
Their bacon is called Canadian Bacon to us too. Even though it's just a regular piece of fried ham.
It's fun to pick on canadians because they always take it so seriously. You say 'aboot' in a mocking manner, and they will swear death upon you.
No offense Canada! Or any Canadians here.
guess the bacon is made in Canada hence the name Lance
so aboot animal testing aint there some endangered species that needs some testing on, and oooooohhhhhhhhh we Norwegians are still hunting whales.
oh you cant hunt whales cause whales are such intelligent creatures
really? if they are so intelligent why do they swim in front of the bloody harpoon all the time then
same goes for dolphins. People say they are so smart, yet they swim right into the net.
Yeah, he sure tasted good for supper though.
As did Lassie.
Poor Lassie, he just had to go to China didn't he?
I think I have a pizza instead
Eww! My slice still has the collar!
Still fuzzy too.
guess a doggy bag never gonna be the same now
Yeah I know that; but it doesn't make it right? Esspecially when theres no point to the experiment in the first place
And I respect that position for its logical consistency. But you will note that no-one else who has shown shock has tried to refute my point, however. Because it remains true. I can only imagine that is annoying for you.
I am afraid, though, that you are riding down a blind alley trying to make out that animal experiments are not useful, seeing as I would be dead were it not for them and I know plenty of people with similar stories and Doctors who can give me significant counter-statisitcs. I am afraid there is a LOT of evidence of the benefits they have brought and you will not convince people otherwise.
All you can really argue is if they are morally justified, not if they have any use.
and that's the way the cookie crumble... cheers mate!!
poor animals poorpoor animals
wonder if Im gonna get me a fur coat
Nooo evil person *cries harder*
and top the collor with that rabbit friend of bambi
nonononononono where are all the guys im crying here
watch out Simba I need a rug
stop it *runs away crying*
hmm any more animals left?
Nope, no more left. I think you slaughtered them all.
By the way, some of you might find this site interesting. Warning - some of you will be offended...
Just curious if you are aware that ALF is in the FBI's list of homeland terrorist organizations. Some of their actions have nothing to do with saving animals, and put hundreds of people in danger. One of my friends who has been a member of PETA for a long time recently pulled her membership when she found out that PETA supports ALF.
ouch! that hurts Im part of the SHAC as well...
I would condemn anyone who turns to terrorist actions ; I know its wrong. But the fact is generally every liberating group as its extremists.
I know about the terrorism behind the organisation. but the SHAC is not a violent organisation. Well every member Ive spoke to is nothing like how the have projected there.
Most of the people within these groups are not as they've stereotyped. But I think when animal cruelty hurts as much as it does me; and people are so narrow minded and ignorant about it all.... it can fustrate and drive you to do the wrong thing.
Btw...all PETA members have different ideas on what 'liberation' may mean; although some more be extreme on the definition. But every member Ive spoke to all have different opinions.
Not sure if everything is different in the UK though....so
That's cool. I didn't mean to make it sound like you were a terrorist or anything. I'm just saying be careful who you affiliate with. I'm sure that both PETA and ALF have done some wonderful things for animals. You might check into the World Wildlife Fund. As of yet, I've not heard anything to incriminating about them. I know that here in the states, the Humane Society and I think it's ASPCA, are both pretty reputible.
Yeah I support WWF...(well I give donations and do voluntary support)
but they're more a charity than a action group.
I know Im not stupid enough to get involved in anything terrorist and Im more likely to stop it.
I didn't mean for this topic to turn into a heated debate.... Its just to inform people.
Its just some peoples views really hurt when they seem not to care. I cant help but just get really upset that people think its funny that animals are being tortured and kept in such poor conditions.
Well, as I have hinted before, blakangel, that is a wall you will find impossible to break; you will almost uniformally find what you would consider to be either callousness or hypocricy. Either people don't care, or they say they do but do nothing about it. Unless you are lucky enough to find another like yourself here, of course.
Well, blakangel, I appreciate your sincerety & concern for animals. I love animals, too. My only concern is the unbalanced approach I see from a lot of animal rights activitsts. As to some of the other comments on this thread, I wouldn't take them too seriously. People love to provoke!
i am a bit torn on animal testing... we shouldn't be testing products on tasty animals. cows are way too good to eat to be testing stuff on them. but really... what about suffering humans?
p.e.t.a. People Eating Tasty Animals!
HK, did you go to the site I posted earlier?
hmm maybe I join a boat and hunt some whales
what has tex done wrong this time, fint?
noo leave the animals alone yerssle tell then to leave the animals alone
moby dick is going down , going down ,going down
moby dick is going down, goooiing doown
er... fint? ... mighty norseman...er;.. could you ...hm... er... please... don't hurt the animals?
well we could start to go lothing and pillaging around Europe again
be my guest
NOO leave the animals alone evil ill cry again
shss, he'll pillage europe and leave the animals aloen!
He'll pillage europe looking for animals to kill maybe.
hope he'll kill duracell bunnies
just those bunnies no otha animals right yerssle
belgians is top of the list, least worthy kill, but their whining and pleading is fun to watch before ......
dont be so evil dont you care that ill cry
oh, do tape it, would ya?
wo tme crying *falls to floor and cries*
haha... i actually got that from a different site. but it seems that there are more of us anti-peta people out there. its too funny we don't even have the ethical treatment of people muchless animals...
the evil boys want to kill all the animals
nono, just one norwegian
evil boys arent gonna hurt the animals yay
I just shot a stra dog.
NOOOO evil boy
Because I knew people would get upset.
Ahh, still provoking I see!
It's what I do best.
I can't believe you killed that poor innocent stray dog, Backfire! I'm so disappointed in you! You didn't even torture it first?!!!
I'm against animal testing because if they get better scores than humans, who knows what could happen?!!!
Nah I haven't boycotted companies for it, for if I did I'd have very lil food left.
only thing I do boycott are Israelian products, but we won't be going into that I guess.
again, some ppl just over do the caring for animals, you see it all the time with pets, I'm not saying we have the right to torture animals as we see fit. But I think that since we are the dominant species on the earth we can use certain animals to make sure we don't *fck up our own survival in some way.
Also it aint like they are causing harm to the ecosystem or anything like that since most of those test animals have been bred only for the purpose of doing TESTs on them.
If they were to use chinese or bengal Tigers or something like that, now that'd be a different story. but Bred mice or chickens COMMON PPL FFS
Poor Thumper...he had it coming though sounding like a chick when he was a boy...
* takes a bow *
better bow with your back agains the wall , there is a stray dog that hump anything
Oh thanks for the heads up...* backs up to the wall *
I hate testing on animals
But how can you test Bounty? And toothbrushes??
well they prolly have animals eat it to look for side effects of the chemical crap they put into candybars
and toothbrushes, to see how soon hairs will fall out
*steps on a mouse*
Tampax is tested on animals???
you forgot L'oreal btw
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