##### The "I've Seen Revolutions" thread #####
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JKozzy
Okay, anybody CLAIMING that they've seen Revolutions, or anyone that's seen Revolutions: DON'T POST THREADS IN THE FORUM WITHOUT A FAIR WARNING. In the thread title, the word "Spoiler" must be included. Some people don't appreciate your posting, since, frankly, nobody else has seen the movie yet. So please be kind, and be courteous with your posting. Better yet, how about you all just talk about it in here so we can keep it contained for the next few days. I beg you, I want to go into Revolutions without all of these spoilers in mind! And I'm willing to bet mostly everyone else here does too.
MC Mike
Kozzy, you know there's gonna be some idiot who doesn't listen?
Well... we'll do this to him!!
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JKozzy
Exactly. But, we have to try! Hopefully Omega'll make this an official thread (sticky thread) so we can try and keep spoilers at bay... we can only hope
COUGH omega COUGH
MC Mike
GODerator...
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Make this an official thread...
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LanceWindu
Bah! This isn't official at all! How dare you say it is? j/k
Good idea JKozzy.
JKozzy
Thanks Lance

Any way we can make this a sticky thread? Or is that up to Omega?
JKozzy
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Ushgarak
Please don't SAY a thread is official unless it actually is, thanks.
TH3_0N3
i seen it LOL just joking
The Omega
Okay. I've "stuck" it as a precaution against anymore ACCIDENTS!
If you're here because YOU have already SEEN Revolutions ask yourself this:
WHY would anyone else WANT to know what happens? Please, post ONLY in this thread.
Thank you.
The Omega
Burly> I had to do this. It'll stay here until the 5th. Did you hear about the disaster earlier today??? Someone "forgot" their spoiler highlights!
burlyman
you are joking, right?
SimplePriest
She Mods for us
Thank you Omega, thank you
spydar1982
I do not know if anyone saw my post in that thread but looks like i got them to remove it. I can't find it anywhere. I wanted to read replies to what i said. but i am glad its gone.
Ice_Lightningo3
I wouldn't dare see it yet. I want to see it in the big screen and be shocked with everyone else....
priestjim
Here it is then! Just a harmless spoiler. Nothing great is revealed, only little things :
1. The twins are not in Revos.
2. The end is so and so.
3. The architect is in Revos but only for a small amount of time.
4. The Deus Ex Machina is made of thousands of sentinels (great thinking!).
5. MWAM does not exist
6. The good guys are good and the bad guys are bad. Period.
7. Neo gets blind. The golden things you see in the trailers is something like the Daredevil vision.
8. Stopping sentinels is just another power of the One. Not much is revealed.
9. The Oracle is the mother of the Matrix. The archie supports the machines, the oracle the human beings (she is amazed of the beauty of the human soul).
10. The special FX and the photography is amazing! The whole movie in eye-candy point of view is amazing! The whole movie is amazing!
JKozzy
Sorry priest, but where did you see Revs again? Forgot what thread it was in.
priestjim
Village Center, Marousi, Attica, Greece.
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kozy, that bot you have in your message is INSAIN!
forumcrew
priest.. can you explain this?
its not really a spoiler.. but if u want complete suprise dont read it i guess...
"i have a scrap with laurence," Neil admits "adrian has a particularly good scrap with carrie-anne, and then we both fight keanu"
that was an article with the twins? you think maybe they just filmed it a while back and then cut it from the movie or is your spoiler lacking?
Osiris
priest this is not really a harmless spoiler
brandonbeyond
oh god i can't wait for rev to come out.. i have heard soooo many theoies and stuff... if anyone has a new one feel free to tell me. spoiler or not i want to know it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
::walks off::
Verity
I agree! Don't give anything away! I can't wait! I've got my tix!!!!!!!!!! By way...Thanx Burly man!

JKozzy
One question, but may bring about a spoiler.
Priest > Are the twins in Revolutions?? That's all I want to know, any maybe a detail or two. Please?
forumcrew
jkozzy read my post up a bit its liek yours but it has something priest said in it which will help you
forumcrew
it doesnt spoil anything besides what u asked by the way
forumcrew
it doesnt spoil anything besides what u asked by the way
JKozzy
Thanks... u double posted there by the way

And that's the whole reason I asked the question--- I wanted a definitive answer, I saw that interview before.
forumcrew
whoops.. yea that article confuses me.. i pm'd priest about it.. maybe they just decided to cut the scene? but why the hell would they do that!!?!
JKozzy
They wouldnt.. theyd better not.... and were there ever deleted scenes from M1 or M2?? Or did they use every one of them.... if there are, why arent they on the dvd? Dunno... priest come answer us!!
ragesRemorse
i was a little upset with the end of revolutions, but i guess i could see it comming. I mean when you find out that it was just all a bad acid trip you cant help but feel a little robbed you know
priestjim
The twins are not in revos. Period. I don't know why they said this but they are not there! Even Belucci is playing for like 5 minutes in the whole movie!
AliasNeo15
ok, i havnt seen the movie, but from wut information i hav gotten, from little scenes to the god d*** spoilers, i think the end for revolutions will hav everyone in the world po'd at the Wachowski's because they did come up with the sequals in a matter of 6 months of thinking. I think they might hav come up with a better ending, but wut the hell do i know, im gunna see the first day it comes out and not 4 days before. I am also going to go bac to theatre and watch it 6 more times, even if its the worst movie ever made. Lets just put it this way, if Neo dies, Im going to judo chop all my friends until they all hav no choice but to kik my ass
MC Mike
Looks like your friends are already dead, most likely

AliasNeo15
lol, ya good point
DARKVIRUS
Just decided to check out the forum real quick on last time before revo's and one thing majorly bothers me priest. Where's the proof?. I would love the twins to be in revo and it would'nt majorly bother me if they were not but, you did say something about taking pictures?. Could'nt you at least have taken a picture outside of the movie theatre?. Your join date bother's me as well...tha'ts like me saying i saw a screening in new york and here are some vauge things I could have gotten from the trailers and clips and to make ppl believe me im just gonna say the twins ARE in revolutions.....then i never show up again if im not correct or just change my name.
Look im not saying you didnt see it but, cmon now, I dont know you nor do I trust you as much as any other spoiler i have read. Without the proof, which you said yourself you would provide, your spoiler means nothing.
So answer this while you're at it , who was the person jumping in front of the train (to me it looked like the trainman) and if youre so confident where does the story pick at teh start of the movie...so i know five minutes into the showing im going to whether you were full of crap to begin with....or not.
No lame excuses either, I certainly would not be able to recall everything from one showing but being a big fan of the matrix im sure you can recall enough of it.
Sifer
Who cares, its out in 5 days anyway

priestjim
There was body control in the entrance of the cinema. They took all electronic devices from us (mobiles, cameras etc.). And yes it is out in 5 days.
SimplePriest
Darkvirus> Priest has been on here a lot. He's pretty regular. I don't know if that means anything to you, but I'm just pointing out that he's not a total noob.
That might add some credibility to his claims. It does to me. But yes, we'll all find out in a few days.

Verity
I won't believe that anyone's seen the movie, until I see some stubs!

Korri
weeeeeeeeeed *oh sorry*

Reep
foxnews.com has a review of the movie. It doesn't sound very encouraging. I'm hoping that the reviewer just didn't get the plot. The alternative is that the Brothers W dropped the ball on what could have been an outstanding resolution to the questions brought up or Relo.
priestjim
I don't want to discourage you but the movie was simply good BUT only for the regular mortal movie watchers. For Matrix geeks like us it was (or will be for you) awesome! You know, they just don't see what we see. Tell me a critic who sat down and found out that the car plates on the car chase actually meant something, for example? They just don't see the magic that the Matrix movies hide!
igotskillz4ya
Saw Matrix Revolutions last night at an all media screening here in Los Angeles. Below is a real synopsis of the movie.
1st lets lay to rest certain theoires:
1. There is no MWAM, forget that crap!
2. The Oracle is the mother of the matrix
3. Neo is human
4. The end is kinda boring
5. Special Effects are awsome.
Now that we've gotten that outta the way, read and enjoy....
ragesRemorse
who ever doubted Neo wasnt mortal? and why is it so surprising to some that the twins wouldnt be in revolutions. We saw them die in reloaded
dave123
i could have told you all that anyway!!!!!!!
ragesRemorse
ok what is MWAM?
priestjim
Matrix within a Matrix.
ragesRemorse
how the hell would that fit into the story, what kind of relivance would that have. ooh youve just been playing a game in the real matrix's matrix. damn i guess im not the only one who sits around thinkin pointless shit up. any way thanx. thats been driving me crazy
priestjim
I've skimmed through igotskillz4ya spoiler and most of it is true (the parts I've read-especially the ending). Don't read it.
priestjim
Haha! Look (extracts from the spoiler):
Back to the Oracles apartment, she orders Seraph to take the little girl because
she knows that Smith is coming for her. Smith takes over Seraph and the little girl. Smith enters the Oracles apartment and takes her over. He now has complete control of the Matrix.
The Matrix is rebooted. The Oracle is sitting on a bench in the park and is approached by the Architect The little girl makes a sun and a rainbow to remember Neo
How do you explain this controversy igotskillz4ya?
burlyman
i havent read that.. should i? is it real?
priestjim
Have you read the controversial text? It is very funny! Most of the spoiler is real though

burlyman
i havent read any full spoiler docs, just what uve said, except that ^
is that a joke
priestjim
No it is not a joke. But burly be patient! 3 days! Ignore spoilers! You know something? I believe now that the whole trilogy was perfect. A work of art with no monumental failure. I bought today the official Matrix Reloaded poster and nailed it on my wall. On its left and right I am going to put the M1 and M3 posters

JKozzy
Crap.. so that was REAL that I just read?
JKozzy
Well that's better than a definite 'yes'...
MC Mike
Kozzy, I thought you never read spoilers...

JKozzy
I... I... I was just curious!!
MC Mike

It doesn't matter THAT much...
Don't worry, just forget it and it'll go away...
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JKozzy
Forget what?

igotskillz4ya
Preist,
The entire synopsis is real. I have no reason to lie, I work for a major newspaper in los angeles so if you wanna check out where I saw the movie you can. The screening was held Thursday nite at the Mann Village Theater in Westwood, CA by Warner Brothers. 961 Broxton Ave.
I'll have my proof online later on (scanning my screening pass). Plus ya'll will see i am right in a few days anyway.
In regards to the little girl and Seraph, Smith corners them in a room in the Oracles building as they try to escape. The Oracle ordered Seraph to take her away b/c she new Smith was coming for her. The couldn't get in the elevator b/c Smith shut down the power in the elevator and they were trapped. Smith took over their Shells and then took over the Oracle.
After Smith is destoryed after taking over Neo, you see the Oracle shell laying in his place. The same with the little girl layin of the side of the street. At the end of the movie when the Oracle and the Architect speak, they never say what the significance of the little girl is. She is the daughter of the program that went to speak to the Merovingian (Man being escorted away in the restaurant in Reloaded). I myself am still trying to figure out the significance of the little girl. But it doesn't matter in 3 days you all can come back here and say I was right. I'll have my proof posted later on.
"I'M SUPPOSE TO SAY SOMETHING HERE" IM SUPPOSE TO SAY, EVERYTHING THAT HAS A BEGINNING HAS AN END" - AGENT SMITH
burlyman
i started reading 'Smith corners..' PLEASE ATTACH SPOILER TAGS
like so text ..but w/o the spaces
igotskillz4ya
MY FAULT BURLY
JKozzy
AH! THEY BURN! MY EYES! NOOOO BURLY! HOW COULD YOU DO SUCH A THING

burlyman
wats my fault?

JKozzy
For forgetting the spoiler tags, but I'm just teasing ya

JKozzy
actually its the Igotskillz4ya... YOU BURNED MY EYES

went thru a period of temporary insanity there..
igotskillz4ya
I'm sorry Jkozzy... I forgot to hide the spoiler be4 i posted it. Forgive me I have sinned.
burlyman
u can edit, but only within an hour after posting
JKozzy
You are forgiven *sign of the cross*
*drowns you in holy water*
igotskillz4ya
Damn it's too late now too.
priestjim
M8 I don't disagree you are right! I have seen the movie too

But there are other guys here who have not seen it. ERGO OPEN YOUR YAPPER ONE MORE TIME AND I AM GOING TO ARCHITECT A WORLD OF PAIN ALL OVER YOUR CANDY ASS!

just joking m8

JKozzy

I LOVE WILL FERELL AS THE ARCHY!!!

JKozzy
Highway crossing-frog! Isn't it the lamest thing you ever heard?
priestjim
mugatu! Do you remember him? From zoolander :P :P

MC Mike
You do NOT want to see me get out of this chair!
JKozzy
Watch the sass, Captain Sassypants.
Jedi > Happy that I got it right this time?

priestjim
...because you my friend are completely pussywhiped!
priestjim
A-ha! You can't handle it!
JKozzy
Sweet, who added the #'s to the title?
"The door on your left will lead you to the 2003 MTV Movie Awards. And the door on the right will lead sissy-boy to his b!tch."
burlyman
whoever closed the other thread i guess ..secret mod...
wait a minute... i closed that thread

JKozzy
Haha suuuuuuuuuuuuure

priestjim
grovda

AliasNeo15
Ergo...........VisaVee..............."This is about" Concordantly
JKozzy
Priest or igotskills: I want one question answered: Is MWAM real or not? And don't answer any more than that!

MC Mike
Kozzy, I didn't see it but if MWAM was real, MWAMWAMWAMWAMWAMWAMWAMWAMWAMWAM could be just as real... I doubt it! Plus, preistjim said it wasn't.

JKozzy
Oh, ok!

JediHDM
koz-man> yes, im happy...

DARKVIRUS
Preist (not simple): LAME...with a capital "L". You know what why not just say you read someone's spoiler who had proof posted like the invitation, the ticket stub, the DAM COIN THEY GIVE OUT!!!. In case you didnt notice the internet is world wide so why would they take these measures here and not in greece to prevent piracy. Look there are only two days left but, to qoute neo "you still have'nt answered my question". There is nothing stopping you from taking a picture across the street of a line of ppl going into a movie theatre.
Man why not just say you read someone's spoiler who sounded like it was the real thing and had provided some proof instead of saying you went to a screening. Where's the invite?, the ticket stub, and the coin?.
You got nothing and telling me how the movie starts is not a real spoiler and yet, you have'nt even touched on that. Let me guess this is what happend:
*preistjm leaving the movie theatre*
Super Usher: sir, I must have your movie ticket
Priestjm: .....ok
Super Usher: *munch*
*preistjm goes to walk away*
Super Usher: ahem.....and the coin sir!
Pristjm:....ok
Super Usher: *munch* *crunch* *swallow*......man I hate this job.
igotskillz4ya
JKozzy: the MWAM is not real.
Verity
Wasn't this already proved! Didn't we already wrap up on the MWAM subject??

igotskillz4ya
Well gent's and fellow Matricies, as promised I've scanned my screening pass. Sorry for the watermarks, just don't want anyone copying my pass and saying it is thier's....
Verity
ARGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! ::jealously plans to strangle::

igotskillz4ya
LOL IT's okay verity... 1 DAY 18 HOURS AND 20 MINS LEFT
Verity
I know, I know, I know!

The Omega
Is Revolutions actually being discussed here?
Otherwise this thread is closing.
dave123
omegas on a thred closing rampage
closing.... closed

The Omega
Dave> Yes, I am. But I'll leave this up until tomorrow, after then we'll start the official
"For those who've seen Revolutions"

MC Mike

I'll be on there...
dave123
omega, when u close this, let me get the last word in, pwease?
priestjim
Oooh I got bored getting blamed for saying that I lied for seeing the movie before everybody else. Just believe what you want. I don't want to show off. I am just having fun here. This is what happened. There is nothing I can show to prove my knowledge. There was no invitation. That guy just put me in! No photos no nothing. Just stop. It's out in 1 day for God's sake!
MR ANDERSON
well this is what l fail to understand.the movie opens tomorrow and some ppl claim to have seen it.like l thot new zealanders would beat me to it.someone explain.
Osiris
oh my god, oh my god...............a few hours to go...oh my,, oh my
monstaloc
i can prove i've seen it
here's something that not in igotskillz spoiler
in the last fight scene, the body layin in the pit, that's made by smith slamming neo into the street from like 100000 miles up, is the oracle
ahhaa..i am showing off cuz it's fun and stupid..well..i think that wasn't in his post...if it is..here's another one (too lazy to look for his post)
when the general dies, he tells the kid he didn't finish the training either
all thost that have seen this can agree that these happen in the movie
also neo find your mama and shows her a real good time in the real world. AHAHA
MR ANDERSON
just wondering where pple get to see the movie before the rest of us.like critics l would see it earlier but what of simple 'us'?
forumcrew
yep yep thats all so true.. and so aesome
Fire
monstaloc that ain't a general it's a captain
forumcrew
well he kind of is the general.. hes the leader of the troops hes like a general would be in a war
Fire
NO a general does NOT lead his troops in actual battle. LOck can be considered a general, but that guy certainly not
kostr2
SPOILER!
I just finished seeing the movie adn all the spoilers are right. The only thing i still think there is a MWAM, or something similar otherwise why
would the oracle say that neo can reach all the way to the source, even when he is in the real world? and how can he see the real smith when he is blinded?
forumcrew
how can you still think theres a mwam after you saw it... the power of the one extends beyone the matrix.. his mind touched the source.. he has to go to the machine city.. he has the power with the sentinels because his mind is connected with the source
JKozzy
Boo, not an official thread anymore!
kostr2
Exactly my point. His power extends beyond the matrix. How could it extend beyond it if it's not just another programmed reality? Plus the whole conversation with the father of the little girl in the train station the guy almost makes it sound like the "love" neo feels is the same that the machines feel. Maybe i'm wrong. Guess that's the beauty of how the brothers set it up, leaving it open enough so we can fill in our own blanks
forumcrew
jeez.. watch it again.. im not explaining this for a 5th time.. i quoted the exact convo from revos on here somewhere and there is an official thread for this id use it cause this one will be lost
kostr2
Oh i'll be watching it again. And again. And probably again after that....
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