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I've noticed that a bunch of other threads have turned into this soo i thought why not create an official one?

ok
lemme start,
i feel like ragging on Bush.
If Bush lived in CA he wouldn't be president because of our three strikes law. he has commited three felonies?
now let me ask you, Do you know anyone that has committed three felonies???

yea, Go america!
man were f*cked up

hmm political discussions are prohibitted for many reasons, so I doubt this will be on long

ok micheal moore.

aaah shuve it BF

you know as well as I do that I'd love to talk politics in this place again, but we know what'd happen

actually that statement was aimed at the starter of the thread

i dunno its the OTF and its official

michal moore is sooo funny
Bowling for colombine was halarious
Stupid white men was funny as hell
need to read Dude Wheres My Country

I don't enough no who Michael Moore is and I don't care.
TPT It ain't cause it is OTF that it can be about politics, OTF still has some rules

ok
if it gets closed o well
cmon ppl wheres the contraversy?

Poor Fire, forums holding you down??

You don't want to know who Michael Moore is.

hmm well it will happen, you weren't here at the start if that damn iraqi conflict, now there were some kick-ass discussions

but if you want a bold statement
I believe that MOST americans have the idea they have the right to police the world, they don't see the problem with their unilateral idea's, they give jack about other countries which have no way of helping them, they use too much violence to solve a problem. and MOST americans that DO disagree with these idea's will march and protest until the decision is made, but almost NO, atleast compared to europe, protest will be uttered after the decision has been made. UNTIL the death tole becomes too great

(MIND YOU ALL I SAID SOME AMERICAN, if ppl feel targeted by this I will not tell anyone wether or not I ment certain members)

Ready, aim.... Fire

thx diego
no I'm quite sure I don't want to know mad

Hehe. =]

Now that's a pic I can put my ass up against!

yikes

Well, it seems that I have swayed this thread.

yea kinda, I can give some other of my thoughts on most americans

No, that's ok, we all understand your thoughts on the issue.

aaah no fun

I thought we were going to talk politics?

well everything I said about most americans relates to politics

hmm........Are we going to have any debates?

depends on wether or not anyone wants to fight my views or suggests something else to debate on

What are your views?

those are my views

It's time to choose...

Hey, does anyone know how to break up a protest?

You shoot the first six people in the crowd!

depends on what they are protesting against and in which way they are protesting

Oh, this was NOT a good idea...

i agree with Fire,
and im and american!!! (I dare you to call me unpatriotic)
BUT what i think is that no only that, but some people just dont care at all, Americans just Watch Fox news, think thats the best source of info, when in reality its run by Bush's Cousin and its just a load of propaganda, put flags on their car and move on.
What really pisses me off is when people say, we should just Nuke Afganistan or Iraq, that just shows complete ignorace for everything,
Also I don't like how September 11th has become a big war rally holiday, calling it patriot day and showing army specials that day and stuff,
we should have called it rememberance day and made it in honor of all Civilians killed prematurely, including Gang violence, Murder, and other domestic problems, not only terrorism,

ok im ranting...
ill stop now before i offend any more people

That was pure humour. (In case you don't of the sense of it.)

Hey, tptmanno1, to my knowledge, Rupert Murdoch is not Bush's cousin.

yup, believe so

Please clarify...

well....I guess I'll go ahead and speed up the enevitable offensive statements that will soon begin so this thread can hurry up and get closed...


French people suck

Well played, Touche`.

Fire you are totally wrong. Most Americans are too lazy to protest.

protestors are funny.

They make funny signs.

I heard the french eat their first born child by law.

Oh my, how ruthlessly absurd.

indeed.

i heard fat people eat a lot of food

Drugs don't kill people, dangerous minorities kill people.

hahahahahhahahahaa

Americans eat like wild buffalos.

Oh gosh that's funny. That's really funny. Do you write your own material? Do you? Because that is so fresh.

No, I have a team of writers that come up with the crap that I type.

hahahahhahaahhaahahha

this be funny
o comon 113, TH any beefs about politics?

I was completely out-of-line on that one, I apologize.

It's all good. I just think most Americans works too hard for material things and it doesn't pay off since there is so much debt. I also think we depend to much on oil and that is the main problem.

Tired Hiker, how do you think the oil dependancy issue be resolved?

agreed

We should go solar, but most people think that is too unrealistic.

yea, but you know the reason the fuel cells haven't been developed yet is that the government has been restricting funding because almost all of the Bush administration has links to the oil industry and they dont want to lose money.

Ok. And how do you suppose solar power be established on a
nation-wide level. And may I annex, what if there are clouds?

solar panals can be set up in such a way that they store excess energy so that if its cloudy thee still provide energy. Also there is still sun when its cloudy, how can you see when its cloudy if ther is no light

tptmanno1, may I ask you where you aquired that information? (about the gov't)

tptmanno1, solar power (pannels) are based on heat not sunlight.

all over the place,
mainly "Stupid white men"
the book, ii could rattle off everything but i don't feel like it,
im sure you could find it on the internet if you tried

no its the light rays, nothing to do with heat, they work just as well in alaska as in New Mexico

tptmanno1, off-topic; do you believe the world is flat?

I learned ten years ago that there are solar panels that will work just as well on a cloudy day as on a sunny day. And I know of the whole Bush administration's investment in the oil industry, that is the biggest problem. It's such a huge business, America. But, granted, there are many parts of America where you don't have to live the mainstream lifestyle. There are cities and remote towns, just like everywhere else. Only America lacks the cool castles and old brothels like Europe had/has.

Not that you asked me, but I believe the world is upside-down.

no
but if the Bush administration sayd the world was round id have my doubts

Thanks TH for reinforcing me
yup, but if they are in CA they aint there no more, all burned

tptmanno1, off-topic, what is your favorite type of goverment?

Democracy,
but not the way ours is run, every vote is counted, no electorial college, less corruption, less ignorance, every person has a voice, and were people accually cared,

Side note: Thank you both for updating my knowledge of solar panels.

ok,
what was with the random questions?

My friend Kathy just got back from France and she told me that the French get 5 weeks off for vacation each year as opposed to America's 2 weeks. Also, the French use their public transportation systems much more than American's use theirs. Hence, less cars in Europe and less dependency on oil. America should recognize.

tptmanno1, I was simply collecting facts, to possibly formulate an opinion of you.

i kno,
i smoe european countries (spain??) they pay like 30% taxes but everyone respects everything and there is no crime, the streets are beautifal, and every problem that america has is non-existant. we throw around the term Patriot like its a tennis ball but we dont do crap about it, we,( I mean americans in general) are patriotic as long as it doesnt affect our daily live or our wallets,

sad, sad, sad

Tired Hiker, I must bring to your attention the simple fact of space. The reason Europeans use cars less that Americans is because of the small amount of room. Notice, though in larger American cities (Boston & New York for example) it is far easier to move around using the Subway. The street designs of Europe however are very different from American roads because Europe developed roads during the middle ages, when horses were the main mode of transportation. And there was less of a distance to travel.

no, im not a communist nazi madcow, im the most politicly involved 15 year only ull ever meet, but you make a valid point, still that doesnt mean we couldnt do anything about the oil/energy/whatever problem

tptmanno1, can you quote me as assuming your affiliations?

no, that was a vain attempt at trying to be funny, failed though. stopping

I know what you mean MadKow, but America has seemed to devise a way to isolate the rich from the poor. You could go to Carmel, California and spend the day in a very wealthy commercial community that is clean and free of crime and neon signs that read 'budweiser' but ten minutes away is the complete opposite, a little town called Seaside. Many European towns have markets everywhere where folks can walk to the store to get their briquets. In America that exists as well, but less frequently unless you count 7-11.

very very true

Well, America is the land of opportunity, you work hard, you get money. Sitting around and complaining never made Bill Gates wealthy.

Yes indeed, but who really needs a billion dollars in their bank account when unemployment has reached new heights.

Please clarify...

Bill Gates had the opportunity to get up off his ass and make money, where as many lower class Americans can only dream of the opportunity. The resources just aren't there for everyone and one cannot assume that all Americans have the same opportunities.

Not that you assumed that, just in general.

Well, no, granted some don't have all the same opportunities.

So then, how would you propose that be changed, to give all equal opportunities?

That would be the tricky part. Rich people would have to give up some money to the poor. For lack of better words.

Why should the people who have worked hard for what they've earned, just give it up to someone they don't know.

And everyone has equal opportunities, you can get a high school diploma off the tax payers, no charge to the individual.

That is the big misconception. The whole working harder point of view as opposed to realizing that there is a sort of unsaid hierarchy.

What "hierarchy" is that?

Republicans.

I'm not sure I understand your point, can you elaborate?

Republicans are into business and stocks and bonds and stuff that really make cents. They tend to support big business which depends on the risk of natural resource depletion; oil spills, radioactive leaks, etc. Stuff that is just unecessary if people just changed their active lifestyle.

I agree, business, stocks and bonds do make money, if you manage them well of course. However, these things are not just limited to Republicans. What materials is your house made of?

I see what you are getting at, but what choice do I have. My house is made of a cement and wood foundation, but it is a small house.

What method of transportation do you use to get to your desired destinations?

Yes, you got me. Gasoline. But what choice do I have. Shooting News beats Delivering pizzas!!

Side note: Life is full of "risks". Every morning you walk outside your talking a risk.

You have a lot of choices: bicycle, rollerblades, scooters, your feet, etc. none of these use gasoline.

True, I could rollor skate and shoot the news. That would be tight.

I'm sorry, can you clarify "shoot the news".

That's what I do, I'm a cameraman.

Oh, that sounds like fun. I've always thought about doing that. What sort of things do you cover?

Anything from The Pebble Beach Classic (golf shit) to the Mexican Circus. I cover gang shootings and car accidents as well as fires, which are very popular lately.

That's quite an array of subjects, I bet that never gets dull.

Well, it's getting late. It was nice talking (posting rather) to you, see you around the forum.

Have a good night. Nice chattin with you.