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many ppl didn't like the zion rave (for obvius reasons), but now there's the club hell scene. apart from any meaning (purpose, reason,whatever) i think the wacho bros did those scene to show a lil' bit of their hidden fetish , after all is their fantasies.

Well what do you think happens at clubs and raves?
I didnt mind the rave...just think the sex scene was to big and unnecessary. Club Hell scene is great and necessary.

oh, i know what happens at raves, believe me. i just say it (the thread) cuz i'm tired of looking for a purpose for everything in the matrix (there's a clothes thread,right?)

i thought the zion rave was good and quite important, it showed humanity
club hel totally reminded me of it, and it was the programs

Dont know.
I think the rave is important. Like burlyman says it shows us humanity. Same for Club Hell with machines. And to show us Mero lookin FINE!!!
And Persephone

they rated it r, idon't know why though, cuz they said it has sexual content, it so did not except that little second in club hell you know.

the titty- twister?

yep. And im pretty sure thats a guys nip too.

Club Hell scene was very good. To me though, the Rave/Orgy scene in Reloaded was completely pointless as just to show that Zion is not afraid of any oncoming attatcks and Neo's love for Trinity. Besides that though, the Club Hell scene in Revolutions was very put. But did nothing to to the Merovingian's (nor Persephone's) existence but to add an action scene while Neo was unconcious.

well, i wasn't looking for a meaning to any of this raves/parties, but since you guys did it... the zion rave showed the humans are still humans ("to deny our impulses, is to deny the very thing that makes us humans" and it was a way to make the sex scene a lil' more bearable (imagine a plain sex scene). club hell shows the way programs enjoy the pleasures of the flesh (there's one similar in M1 when neo meets trin)

besides any other meaning, this scenes are lil' fetish the wacho bros enjoy at ours expenses. ppl wearing latex and metal stuff, some showing their brests (or twirling them) reminds me of that arnold movie "last action heroe" where they muck the way hollywood is full of fetish

The scene in Reloaded, where the humans have a party, and Neo and Trin make love is called "Celebrating Humanity."
"To deny our impulses is to deny that which makes us human," as Mouse puts it in M1.
The scene was beautiful and important, and I personally think that anyone who calls it an "orgy" just because people are having a good time, need to come out of the Dark Ages ruled by the Inquisition.

i was just about to post that.....

yeah, it shouldn't be called an orgy. only 2 ppl are having sex (that's not an orgy)

"morpheus, what can we expect at this orgy?"
"MACHINES"

M1 - plugged in humans*
M2 - zions 'free' humans
M3 - exile programs

* "That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage...."


its called the zion dance/rave/orgy whatever

Burlyman> Check your Reloaded DVD. The scene in question IS called "Celebrating Humanity."

blrblrblr... i wasnt saying what the scene names where

I know, burly. It's just to show those who KEEP calling it an orgy, that it wasn't, and wasn't written by the W-brothers to BE a such.

That is true. You do have a point Omega. Why the hell I called it an Orgy? Well, I guess I couldn't find any other word to type but that. Excuse my inaccurate vocabulary.

club hell was well dodgy!!

HA HA! Yeeeahhh!

Club Hel scene was awesome. Sex scene not needed.... maybe Korri does, but I prefer to have Keanu keep his arse to himself

wow, my thread resurrected...

I was gona PM u about it but I thought to myself... "nah he'll see it himself!"
It's fun lookin' at the "Who's Online?" section and seeing what the guests are looking at, then posting. They must get awfully confused!

Sex scene was important you cynic koz

Foolish Koz, sex scenes are the only way to make real $ in Hollywood these days!

To the movie, but not to me

let's just agree on one thing: it was important for the movie and for korri

I disagree.It wasnt important for the movie. (hey we cant all agree )

has anyone looked in the zionarkives on the matrix web site?
look at the club hel details and it shows all these freaky bondage people/sculptures hanging from the ceiling...