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I'd just like this opportunity to express the fact that Obi-wan is a bad-ass!

If you think Obi-Wan is a bad ass, wait until you see Mace Windu in action...

That's what I told one of my buddies:

He was pissed because Samuel L Jackson was in it. I tried to explain to him that he would be important later. But my friend was too stupid to understand.

"Mary, h. . have you seen my baseball?"

Mace Windu: The Thinking Mans Jedi.....

I think Obi-wan and Mace should have a fight. I think Ben would kick Mace's ass.
Hey! Maybe he does! Maybe that's how Mace dies. Okay, that's just plain stupid.

Hmmmm, sounds ever so much like we're getting in to Episode-II territory there...

How can you hate someone that is in one movie, than dies and is a ghost that you see for only 5 minutes?

Yerssot, what part of this topic are you replying to???

I didn't know what the hell he was talking about, either.

Oops, wrong thread

How embarassing Yersott

Sorry!
But when I'm on the forum I work on two things at the same time.
PS; did you know you can only post every 30 seconds? That slows down my work!

It's to stop loonies messng things up with mass over-posting, as has happened before.

I find it a strange decision that OB1 lets his beard grow. Just for making him look 10 years older. Couldn't they make rimples with fx?

Well, Ewan often wears a beard- in fact, he had to shave it off for TPM... but then he only grew it again for Litte Malcolm and the Eunuchs... and for Moulin Rogue he had to be both bearded and shaven... never mind.

As Alec Guiness had a beard this was a somewhat inevitable piece of continuity. And he DOES look older in it, to be sure!

Forgot Alec Guiness there, indeed, he has to have a beard

I think the beard makes him look a lot better. He's not a young smart ass anymore. The beard makes him wise. He's got more figured out now.

Yoda should grow a beard out. And Mace should grow out one of those long mustaches, like in the movie Tombstone.

I don't think he looks more wiser

I think it is there to give him a sense of having matured over the 10 years.

give hem a SENSE of....
quite correct Ratcat: a SENSE

Oh indeed, the character is still only supposed to be in his very early thirties. I think a lot of the recklesness will still be there, deep down.

Once again though, we have a thread that is drifting into AOTC topics.

ok, back on topic:
I find it strange that Luke calls him Ben in ANH and ESB but NOT in ROTJ, where he calls him Obi-Wan

IS this supposed to show a maturing of Luke, dropping the familiar name in favour of the more honourific?

Perhaps giving back Kenobis real name so everything can be restored?

yerssot, I think that's a good way to look at it.

By the time we come to RotJ, I think Luke had a lot more stuff figured out. He knew now of what had gone on before, and he knew not to call Kenobi Ben, but by his real name, Obi-wan.

And again there is the time-error.
I mean: Luke had a LOT of time to sort things out and question others about a certain Kenobi; BUT Luke knew already in ANH that it was OB1 and not Ben. hence: Leia's message.

I don't think Luke ever really learnt much of the Old Republic and the Jedi Order, a theme carried through into the EU.

Forms of reference for those times were all but destroyed, according to EU sources.

With nothing canon to discount that idea, and an unlikelihood of there ever being anything that will then we must fall back on the EU for that kind of info.

OB1 was not the only old guy hanging around there. He can ask old people about the Jedi

Sure, they would know stories of the Jedi, but they probably wouldn't know much about the actual workings of the Jedi Order.

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