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Do they sneak up above ground and steal it from like broken "obsolete" machines? or do they actually devise the knowhow to build this stuff themselves? I think they begin with salvaged resources, then they learn to create their own tech and build Zion up.

Tsion? ...is this like Trish

sorry I just like spelling things wierd ways.

They send Trish up. She always gets something new.

Tsion and Zion are very similar in pronunciation...leave him alone

Yeah.

Both your theories are probably correct.

hey, i was joking

Don't worry I don't take sh*t personal. Whats irking me is that none of you have any theories though

well, considering Zion is probably already built when they get there, i'm guessing that the tech is there also...

It was already there? What about the "first" Zion? And how would it be built, and wouldn't the people released from the matrix know that it was made by the machines?

The first Zion probably had tech from the end of war. Think of it like this. After the war Zion is the last human outpost (circa matrix 1.0) It gets destroyed later (circa end of matrix 2.0) and the process we now know of begins with the rebuilding of zion and the such.

the sewers used to be cities that spanned hundreds of miles.. there is industrial style remains littering them...
these were here before zion even started

yeah but zion is far away from those sewers. It'd be hard to get there without transport. However that might answer where the tech came from

http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rv_desktops/img/7_800x600.jpg

Made in the USA, year 2101.. Morpheus said in M1 that he thought it was 2199 or so.. so basically even the ships are stolen, or remains, or.. how did they get the ships even??

01 used to make the hover cars.. gov used planes with the pads on to scorch the skies... they must be able to get parts from somewhere


remember that comic; where there is a guy living (near 01?) and theres all this 20/1st century stuff, and he rescues the rebel.

Which rebel? The one with the DVD and how it cant hold an agent's hair?

ooh... this one http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_cmp/troy01.html

I'd say the only sound theory is that the machines made them back when 01 was flourishing and building all the hover cars and stuff. I think I saw a plate that read 2097 or something like that, I forget where though, maybe it was the Osiris. Yeah I'm sure it was the Osiris, but now I'm not sure it was 2097 it might have been 2197. I'll check tonight or somebody else can. Anyway, that explains the ship, but not the Zion mainframe or Zion itself.

Thats kinda what I was saying. Excluding my theory that the original zion really was the last stronghold of humanity after the war.