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hey to all those rap/hip hop fans. you guyz know about the nas/jay-z beef right? its old but just wanted to see if anyone knows about this.

the beef is more then a year old anyways

back then i wouldve said nas..right now they all suck..nas's album god's son big disspointment and jay-z's blueprint 2 is a pile of shit and i havent heard the black album yet..i just hope nas makes a better album next time..something like illmatic or stillmatic where nas really shines !!
they are not the same..its all comerical for them now!!

jay-z

he's cooler

nah man i like Nas better. Jay-z has a great flow but he raps about crap.

but some of his songs are good.

they both rap about crap now..all those mainstream rappers rap about the same thing now..i was exited for dmx's new album but it turned to be CRAP! rap was done for me when stillmatic got old!

but i do looove outkast's new album better then stankonia which was great too!!

some mainstream is good but underground rap is best.

Big L (r.i.p.)
have u heard song Deadly COmbination - Big L feat Tupac.
its great

i loved big l !! the poor and the dangerous is a great album.

nas' "illmatic" is a classic and after that it all fell apart. he occasionally will produce a gem, but that's not enough to be the second coming of rakim.

jay-z...i like the first album a lot...bought the second album and was dissappointed...haven't bought one since. if it's any consolation to him, my non-hip hop loving wife likes his songs.

as far as any beef is concerned, it's old news and unnecessary. unless all they want to do is sell records to the masses. remember boys and girls, mass appeal ain't the real deal.

final score - 0:0

it's time for hip hop for hip hop's sake

madsci
hip hop purist

good job madsci^

nas fell apart after illmatic but on stillmatic he was just as great but then again he disspointed me with god's son as for jay-z i like reasonable doubt but after that all his albums were rubbish but i liked the blueprint..then it was the blueprint 2 an album that i hate very much!!! the cover of tupacs " me and my girlfreind " really SUCKS!!

I would vote for Nas. Jay-z raps about his "hos" Cars and gold.

As far as best rappers in my eyes would be Mos Def & talib queli (Blackstar), Ugly Duckling, Andre 3000, and of course 2pac (RIP maybe)

mos def and talib kewli are hip hop at its greatest...its been a while since mos def released a solo album

Did you know mos Def has his own rock band? He plays the guitar. There releasing an album soon.

"I'm hip-hop, I'm rock'n'roll," the New York-based rapper defiantly yelped to the thudding backdrop supplied by his new rock band, Black Jack Johnson, which he introduced at his Jan. 8 concert at First Avenue in Minneapolis.


Mos, who's in the midst of a brief national tour, has for the moment, traded his turntables for an all-star, all-black band (named after boxing's first African-American heavyweight champion). The group includes such "black rock" pioneers as keyboardist Bernie Worrell (Parliament-Funkadelic), guitarist Dr. Know (punk legends Bad Brains), bassist Doug Wimbish and drummer Will Calhoun (both from '80s rockers Living Colour)."

F*ck that album is gonna be a must have!! any news about a ?release date ???

yo

wow this is old.

this is really old.....this died 2 years ago

Yeah, and this thread was made two years ago. It's just a randomised bump.

I say Jay-Z

Jay-z is a biter.

Nas- Illmatic

could be considered the best hip hop album.

JayZ sucks as bad as 50, he's a punk ass little *****.

"Go on brush yo shouldaz off"

Pffft brush these nuts off your chin JayZ.


On the note of Mos Def though he is one of a very and I mean very small select few rappers that I can listen to.

Mos Def is VERY intelligent.

Originally posted by hh?
Jay-z is a biter.

Nas- Illmatic

could be considered the best hip hop album.

Just wondering, why is Illmatic such a great album? I myself haven't listened to it, yet every hip hop fan that I've talked to that knows hip hop, always states that Illmatic is one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time.

Originally posted by PRO-PAIN
JayZ sucks as bad as 50, he's a punk ass little *****.

"Go on brush yo shouldaz off"

Pffft brush these nuts off your chin JayZ.
Good choice.

Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove
Just wondering, why is Illmatic such a great album? I myself haven't listened to it, yet every hip hop fan that I've talked to, that knows hip hop, always states that Illmatic is one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time.

it's not THE best, but one of the best albums in my opinion.

its just perfect in all aspects.

Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove
Just wondering, why is Illmatic such a great album? I myself haven't listened to it, yet every hip hop fan that I've talked to, that knows hip hop, always states that Illmatic is one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time. Honestly I could never call any album the greatest hip hop album ever.

Originally posted by hh?
it's not THE best, but one of the best albums in my opinion.

its just perfect in all aspects.

Yeah, I haven't gotten into Nas stuff yet, Illmatic would be a good start.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Honestly I could never call any album the greatest hip hop album ever.

That's why I said "one of the greatest".

Illmatic was his only good album imo. Stillmatic was average and the rest i didn't enjoy.

Alright my bad..

Anyway.. if I were you I'd download NY State of Mind to see a little of what Illmatic is like.

Originally posted by hh?
Illmatic was his only good album imo. Stillmatic was average and the rest i didn't enjoy. You don't like It Was Written?

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Alright my bad..

Anyway.. if I were you I'd download NY State of Mind to see a little of what Illmatic is like.

Will do.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
You don't like It Was Written?

yea i forgot about It Was Written. that was better than Stillmatic.

ok the order so far is

1. Illmatic
2. It Was Written
3. Stillmatic

and the rest i dont care.

Streets Disciple was dissapointing.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese

Good choice.

Thx he ranks up there with KRS-One, who is in all reality the greatest rapper of all time.

But like I said I only listen to a small select few.

You like Public Enemy, PRO-PAIN?

if you like Krs-One, you'll love Mr. Lif.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
You like Public Enemy, PRO-PAIN?


Hell yeah, my second fav next to KRS-ONE.

Originally posted by PRO-PAIN
Hell yeah, my second fav next to KRS-ONE.

flavor flav

love this song

The Perceptionists- Memorial Day

I've got a question..
I've got a question..

Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
We been lookin' for months and we ain't found nothin'
Please Mr. President, tell us something
We knew from the beginning that your ass was bluffing!


How unfortunate, it wasn't what you thought it kid, in basic training
They taught you how to slay man as a start-up kit
and you showed up with a gun to load up
Hopin' a college education's waitin', maybe a steady occupation
Now you're weighing many lives against yours
President orders, got you on course, with holocaust, Sargent is lost
General's boss, plans cross, now you in the crosshair
of a sniper's shaky scared, shot of your ear
All ****ed up now! one round just hit him in his from some young yet expendable citizen
He's from the other side of the line, fightin' for time
Time to see his kids walk, time to talk with his pops
Time to have a rational thought without the fear of bein' shot
(Damn) his gun jammed now you gotta bombart
It's a soldier's suicide slide - know you tried hard to stay alive
When you're catching fire from both sides
and we miss you at home, its time the government truly left you alone
Dropped you off and popped one in your dome
Now we've seen it in Iraq and the Congo - America's motto
"Kill their leader then we build a stronghold!!"

Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
We been lookin' for months and we ain't found nothin'
Please Mr. President, tell us something
We knew from the beginning that your ass was bluffing!


I never thought of this the day that I enlisted
That I'd be dodging bullets, seekin weapons that never even existed
For someone else's personal beef, I risk myself
While the Commander-in-Chief, would never come to fight himself
I feel I'm bein' tricked even worse that the civilians
Nobody ever told me that we would be killin' children!!
Feelin like the ones that sent me here are the psychotics
but if I say that out loud -- I'm "unpatriotic"
but would Donald Rumsfeld back me up with the chrome?
Would Tom Ridge fight or would he stay secure back home?
and would Condoleeza Rice cover grenades in a fox hole?
I'm startin to believe what I was told is not so
What's the reason for the war?
I'm shootin at these people that I got not animosity for
I wonder if I'm just a pawn in someone else's struggle
or a here even though I'm just a small piece of the puzzle
I know that when I finally return where I reside
I'll make up for the months my wife and moms cried
and carry on for all my fallen brothers that died
but you can't take my pride -- cuz I'm a ****in' SOLDIER

Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
We been lookin' for months and we ain't found nothin'
Please Mr. President, tell us something
We knew from the beginning that your ass was bluffing!

Whats that Perceptionists album like hh? Mr Lif and Akrobatik are on constant rotation at my house at the moment, i love the track Post Mortem off I Phantom - amazing.

The Perceptionists album imo is above average. Mr. Lif's solo albums are much better. But its still a good listen.

Originally posted by metal face
jay-z

he's cooler

Damn, this place misses Jonathan AKA metal face. He would have been holding it down in the hip-hop thread for sure.

the guy dissed me non stop^

ROFL

I forgot about that. Yea he was crazy but he was the homie.

i said once "i like Braille and Cunninlynguists"

his response "shut up"

or something like that