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Seeing as the 'who is your fav and why' thread is turning into a debate over who is the best and who would win in a fight between Cyke and Wolvie, i thought i would make a thread to continue this further without getting told off for getting off topic by kes.

So people, who is better? Wolverine or Cyclops?http://www.killermovies.com/forums/images/moresmilies/argue.gif

It depends really on the level of the fight. There have been several altercations throughout the years between them with no diffinative answer. Look at it this way, Wolverine has gone toe to toe with the Hulk and has even gotten the better of him, could Cyke do that? No. I think if it really came down to it and Wolvie wanted to kill Scott, then Scott would be dead and Wolverine would spend the next couple of weeks healing, most likely in the arms of Jean Grey.

Wolvie kickin cykes ass!http://www.thegremlin.com/12532marv.JPG

I have to say I love Scott better than Wolvie but I think if they fought, Wolverine would be the winner...

Yeah but if you read the Age of Apocalyspe stories when Cyke is a baddie, they do fight for real. Cyke loses an eye and Wolverine loses his hand. Cool Stuff

wolvie would win!!!! like, yahoo!!!!!! die one eye!!! (el is gonna kill me, el is gonna kill me... oh i'm so dead...) ID <-- that's cyke

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WOLVERINE KICK CYCLOPS' A**,
I WOULD ENJOY THAT SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!

Especially if it was the movie Cyclops, he was such a pus*y

hehehehe...

hehehehehe...

Thats obviously an altered pic.

I agree, I don't remember that ever happening. I would say that it is a completly accurate potrayal of what would happen if Cyclops pissed Wolverine off one to many times

Oh and Wolvie would kick Optimus' ass too

That pic is not altered! Its from the original cartoon series. It was a simulated, robot cyclops inside the danger room!

Hmm... dangerous and disturbing this puzzle is...

What puzzle?

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ab: madkow is just playin Yoda...
puzzle: is it or is it not a real screensnap

I think Wolverine would win especially in the movies because Cyclops is just lame nothing ever happens with him. Cyclops might as well go dig his own grave.

I swear down vampiree, that is a real screen shot.

Then where is cykes foot?

Cyclops can hit Logan even he's miles (exaggerated) meters apart, but Logan needs to come very near to Scott before he can hit Cyclops...

Cyclops will win!

Wolverine is too quick for Cyke to get a bead on, Storm beat him useing only her fists. Besides Wolverine has taken shots from the Hulk! I'm sure he could take whatever punishment Cyke could give and then.........
GUT HIM LIKE A FISH!!!! C'MERE LITTLE FISHIE GRRRRR

I don't know where his foot is but if you still don't believe its real then check out the original x men episode where cyclops and jean get married and wolverine misses it cause hes in the danger danger room kickin the crap out of loads of simulated cyclopses. Anyway please can we get back on topic.

I agree...

And I believe this picture speaks for itself.

Wheee, I love this pic!

thats not a fight picture, wolverine let cyclops hit him. Lol and the next day hes walkign around so lol, really wasnt anythign special there. Ultimate X-Men ROCKS!!! lol thought id say that =\

hey do u guys got the issue PDF style where Wolverine fights Hulk, Ive heard alot about it but ive never seen it, could someone hook me up?..PM me and i iwll hook u up with an email.

Wolverine would win, remember.. Weapon X was designed to kill muties.. =] --X-Men the Next Diemension--..lol "Heart is what wins wars"
inside joke if u havent played that game. hes a joke in everything he does.

I had an issue of The Hulk drawn by Macfarlan(SPAWN creator) where Wolverine slams his claws so far into him that they push the back of his shirt out. Great artwork, someone stole it from me and if I find out who they will never be safe.

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http://www.killermovies.com/forums/images/moresmilies/clapping.gif http://www.killermovies.com/forums/images/moresmilies/lol1.gif http://www.killermovies.com/forums/images/moresmilies/laughing.gif I love this pic!!!!!!!!!!!

That picture just goes to show that only when Wolverine lets Scott hit him, and He knows Wolvie won't hit back is when he has the cajones to zap him. Because we all know that Wolvie would......GUT HIM LIKE A FISH!!!! MMMNNMN I LOVE FISH!!!!!!!

Why would he (Logan) let Him (Cyclops) hit him? That makes no sense whatsoever!!

.... a$$ clown.

CyCloPs Wood win! jus coz ( as others sed ) he cood jus blast wolverine from a distance, but 4 wolvie to attack cyclops, he'd have be close so he cood use his claws n dat........

Wolverine would win. If he smacked his claws straight through cyclops' visor then wolverine would stop his power and come to think of it, him aswell!

Do you just make these pointless threads to annoy people???

It burns doesnt it!!!!!!!!!!

Muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

What? No not really.

brother in ultimate xmen wolverine and cyclops are arguing and cyclops gets so mad he blows wolverine through the wall wolvy comes back jups through the hole in the wall and and jsut then the professer stops him cyclpos says i'm not afraid of wolverine proffeser and the proffeser says if i hadn't come just now you would be in pieces on the floor (the prof brain froze him)not to mention the reason cyclops is missing his foot in that pic is cuz he a holographic image and wolverine would take cyke out really fast he's just all around (except in ranged fighting) better than cyke

Yeah!

the reason wolverine let cyk hit him was, wolverine in ultimate X-Men tried to kill cyclops by making his death look like an accient so he could get jean, he thru him off a cliff, during a mission to the savage land. when scott returns wolverine takes his punishment by not moving. Wolverine would waste cyk anyday of the weak.

weak = cyk is weak, week as in time ^_^

i think that logan can beat scott because he is stronger in physical strength and has the healing factor.

Ooooooooooooh and he did!!! and I have the comic to prove it

Tell me that wasn't funny seeing Cyclops all twisted and broken up goin' crazy in the hole and eating bugs for survival!!!
Anyway, I used to despise Cyclops as a character because he had none, but he had power. As much as I hate to admit it, if Cyke took of his visor and opened his eyes with no regard, he would put Wolvie down. He is the equivalent of a solar powered battery and wouldn't stop. But that's exactly why Wolverine would win. Cyclops would never cut loose like that because he's a punk, and a moment of hesitation is all ol James Howlett needs.

I would want Cyclops to win but Wolverine probably will because of all hin rage and all. Scott is too kind.

Wolverine would not get a chance to get close enough to hurt Scott. And whilst on the ground, he would receive mulitple 'Optic Blasts' from my boy Scotty.

However, the kindness factor that Scott has may play a role. Logan, on the other hand, wants Scotty's girl. Kicking Scotts ass would not be the best way to win her heart.


LET'S ASK A NEW QUESTION:

WHO WOULD WIN? WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THE FIGHT?

Who the hell is James Howlett?

James Howlett is Wolverines real name. Yes everyone know him as logan but his real true name is James Howlett. Check out the origin series, its a total explanation about Wolvies past.

cyclops as in the person that said cyke would win didn't you read what i read the prof even said that cyke would be in pieces on the floor if it weren't for him and in one of the first ultimate xmen episodes wolverine is in the danger room and wolvy killed the whole team he actually killed jean with cykes beam and then snapped cykes neck plus wolverine is a proffesional the most dangerous man in the world an assasin if you will he would kill cyke in plain english

Cyclops beam can punch a whole in a mountain!! If Cyclops hits him, he would adleast be stunned on the ground. Whilst he is on the ground, Cyclops can blast him into oblivion.

no wolverines healing factor has taken more than that and his adamantium skeleton means he can't break a bone and not to mention you see wolverine killing cyke all the time in the danger room i've never seen cyke kill a wolverine.

Holy shit dude! You are telling me that Sabretooth can knock Wolvie unconcious, yet a blast from Scottie wouldn't do a thing to him.

GIVE CYCLOPS A LITTLE MORE CREDIT THEN THAT!!

i think cyke is very powerful but the point is that in that pic when cyke let loose that huge blast against wolverine wolverine still got up and sabretoothe has super strength anyway if you won't take my word for it take professer Xaviers he told cyclops that if he hadn't intervened cyclops would be D-E-A-D not alive he said he would be in pieces on the floor i think that means that wolverine would win i'm taking the prof. word for it oh and in the episode where wolverine lets cyke fall there surrounded and wolverine keeps telling cyclops to get down when he finally did wolverine slaughtered all the (i think they were robots)robots around em he couldn't let loose until cyke got down.

oh man this thread shouldn't even be here wolverine would wipe the floor with cyke no question

thank you

This is clear wolverine is the coolest, strongest. Cyclops is a weak boring xmen that sucks.

yeah...cyclops is a tool...no way he could take wolverine

No way and if it was in the movie cyclops would prob. cry like a little girl. Just like how he did with Jean at the end of x2. He is so lame.

I agree with tonjappr

In a open area where both of them are trying to kill eachother and don't care about who or what gets damaged Cyclops would have a better then even chance of winning.

He'd just have to remove his visor and fight Wolverine like that. Without his visor his optic blasts spread out more (making it easier to hit Wolverine) and if he was trying to kill Wolverine he'd use full powered shots (he's able to lessen the power of his shots to a degree and usually does in fights since he doesn't kill).

However if it was in a urban type of combat feild or anywhere other than a open plain I'd say Wolverine would have the advantage.

If both were some what concered for the safety of others in the area or didn't want to cause massive damange Wolverine would really have the advantage cause he'd still be able to go all out but Cyclops wouldn't be able to.

I remember when I was younger there was a comic where Cyke kills everyone cos he lost his visor.Maybe its a faulse memory but

Why are you people still arguing lol this is gay...
cyclops sucks number #1!!!

number 2 - professor X even told Cyclops, not to mess with wolverine, main Reason..he would toast and jelly him, then eat him!

number 3 - Cyclops is gay

Number 4 - Wolverine has taken blast from cyclops before.. and walked away

Number 5 - Cyclops is gay.. who eats bugs

Number 6 - Wolverine is a trained killer, Cyclops neats to sleep, besides that, without his visor cyclops is blind, unless he goes raw... wolverine can move without makeing a sound. Cyclops would be defenceless, and yes wolverine could take his visor.

Number 7 - Cyclops is gay!

Number 8 - wolverine has 180 years of fighting exspierence on cyclops.

Number 9 - Cyclops is gay!

Number 10 - Wolverine has a weigh advantage in all his blows, its like swinging a bar bell with claws on the end. he has animal like ability, with speed smell etc.. Scott only has his plasma charge, he has no special physical abilities, one blows from wolverine would end him

these are are my 10 reason why.. lol theres more i dont feel liek writing any more, if u have a problem, AIM me, or Email me for AIM name i will debat you anytime.

no contest... wolverine will kick cyclops a$$ then hand it to him... i mean, even if cyclops would take off his visor, he's gonna have to close his eyes at some point... remember in x1 when he blew off the roof at the train station..? he turned away and closed his eyes... granted he did this to stop his optic blast, but if he didn't he'd blow his own hand off... which would've been funny

LipiDSama: hmm... what should I say...very funny...

LipiDSama:

eidolon i would almost agree with your last post except for cyclops just wouldn't do it he wouldn't take off his visor and just look around to try and kill wolverine oh and in comics where wolverine goes feral cyclops always yells for everyone to run away and if you think it's cuz they don't wanna hurt him think again.

Let's see where to start. If all you could say to dismiss this debate is "Cyclops Sucks" and "Cyclops is Gay" then you obviously have no reason to post here.

Also, Cyclops cried when he lost Jean because it was the woman he loved. If you feel that doing something like that makes somebody a "Wuss," or "Pussy," or anything to that nature then you are a plauge to society and deserve to be ostracized.

Everyone here has one defense, and in my opinion using it over and over again is getting very tiresome. "Wolverines healing factor makes him invincible." No. it does not. It allows him to fully regenerate, yes. But, given enough of a beating will render him in pain. He can be hurt, he will heal... BUT IT TAKES TIME!!! Enough of a beating will knock him unconcious, and Cyke can do it. His beam is friggin' powerful (as stated before enough to punch a whole in a mountain) and could knock Logan out.

after this educating lecture i still say: NO FRICKIN WAY, logan is a lot stronger than cyclops and he just wouldn't give cyke any time to 'shoot beams' still... cyclops sucks... i don't say that he's 'gay' and please don't use this when i'm around it offends me. i don't want to hear if someone's 'gay' or not.

Vampiree: Cyclops doesn't suck!!!

yes he does!

no he doesn't http://www.killermovies.com/forums/images/moresmilies/pissed.gif

yes he does!

damn he doesn't http://www.killermovies.com/forums/images/moresmilies/mad2.gif

yes he does!

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YES HE DOES!!!! WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Damn!! you asked for it http://www.killermovies.com/forums/images/moresmilies/chair.gif
H E D O E S N 'T S U C K!!!

yes, he doeeeees, yes he doooessss *sings and dances*

WHAAHA fight ....... fight..... go vampy suck Paola's blood whahah jk

he's hot!!! and sexy!!! and the best leader alive!!! and just because he hasn't beat the s*** out of Wolvie doesn't mean that he can't!!!

GO Cyclops!!!

*runs as fast as she can far far away from evil Vampiree*

*vampy laughs evily and runs after paola* here kitty, kitty, HEEEEEEEEERRREE KITTY, KITTY DON'T RUN AWAY FROM ME! AHA! *she grabs paola* whadya gonna do now, eh? CYKE SUCKS!

WHAHAAHAHA lol

your evil dont hurt the kitty lol

i won't hurt her. i love her too much

*hugs Vampiree* thanx darling love ya too!
and Cyclops ruuuuuuuuuules!!!

CYCLOPS SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!!!!!!!!

WHahaah a cat fight .... will cat and vampier fight

i'm not going to fight her! but cyke still sucks!

really? who's cyplos?? http://www.killermovies.com/forums/images/moresmilies/tongue.gif

oh you! just a SPELLIN MISTAKE!

DON'T LAUGH!

sorry!!!

you...

Ladies ladies, calm down please. Theres a time and a place for this. Oh and er... cyclops sucks.

yeah! cyke sucks! hehehehehe i win you loose pao!

You know you guys are giving me lots of work lately. I dont have time for this.
*Sigh* lets get back to topic please.

we're on the topic kes... uhm... kinda cyke sucks means cyke would lose!

Kes is right!! the topic is not who sucks?... the thread is about Cyclops VS Wolvie.... so you evil and mean Vampiree STOP SAYING THAT!!! and stay on topic!!!!

hey! don't yell at me you powerless mortal!!!!!!!!! i am on topic GO WOLVIE!!!!!! KILL THE SUCKER!!!!!!

Even though it's a little late, I'm saying it anyhow- Cyclops rules!!!!!

hehehe.... i still say no f*ckin way

That's cuz youre being stupid. Cyclops is the best!

i'm not stupid.

O.K lets get back on to the proper topic. Who would win in a fight and why.

Sorry.

wlverine would win cuz if you look in the how to kill wolverine thread you'll see there are just few options, and cyke isn't one of them

It's possible cyclops would win- I mean, he could shoot wolverine a few times and knock him out, then while Wolverine was knocked out for a little while he could like drown him or something.

drown him: it's a good idea, but there would be a problem in knockin him out...

Well, if you shot him enough times, he'd be down for a little bit while he healed.

yeah i think that would do but you would have to be pretty quick in draggin his body to the nearest river when he weights more than your car that crosses out the drowning for me

I wish there was a "emoticon" where a little smilly face with red sunglasses could take them off and blast another one.

Cyke could win, but would probably be above the fight and not fight.

bah cykes beam is hard but he's unleashed on wolv. before and then wolv.got up i mean lets take the facts

well you say he weighs more than a car, that of which is untrue, Adamantium is light, though the Terminator on the other hand weighs more than a truck because hes pure metal, now pulling Wolvie is 10 times easier. But when Wolvie is more developed power wise he wil learn to block the shots with his claws. Im sure Scott would win for the point he has more in the head then Wolverine..... But if Wolverine catches his blind spot then yea Cyclopes is through in a slice

well wolverine with adamantium weighs alot and i mean cyke would be toast no question about it

oh no doubt he weighs a lot but no where near a car because as it is well known Titanium used to be the strongest metal untill Adamantium was discovered. but he would weigh near 200 pounds maybe 300 at most

Cyke would win, but probably would not fight as he is above it. Much like Yoda from Star Wars (until they completly tarnished his character by giving him a lightsabre battle in EP. 2. However, I will save that for the Star Wars Thread)

nah yoda's fight was awsome and scott blasted wolverine full force once so he's not above fighting oh and incidentally wolverine got up from that blast

geez baradok.... i still think there's no damn way cyke could DRAG him and drown him...

i think wolverine kicking cyclops' ass would be pretty funny because they always get so close to doing it but never really fight.

yeah and Cyke would kick his a** !!!

no way pao...

yes he will!!! and before you say anything stay on topic before lightnings and thunderbolts shut our mouth up ......

I'M NOT SSAYIN A WORD YOU AGRESSIVE GIRL! *cries* i'm on tooooooopic....... *cries*

don't cry.... I didn't mean to be agressive...
here Mrs. Liouncourt: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/images/moresmilies/flowers.gif

awwwwww thank you i'm not sad anymore! i mean lestat is my man! hehehehehehehe now TOPIC

paola your not on cykes side i hope?

and i got a question though it isn't on topic what is a mod

a mod is a modification of the whole thing, and yes even though i mention it is Physically possible to drag him, the idea would be pointless if you have him unconscoius i would probably lock him in a cage where the bars are guarded with electricity.. then have a huge magnet pull him into the bars so hes in a never ending pain... but im not on Cyke's side im just explaining how it would be pointless yet posssible to drag him

mod is a moderator our half god here kes is our mod and then there's the admin, our true god - raz!!!

and i still think you wouldn't be able to drag him anywhere on your own cuz he's too heavy

Interesting...

A lot of people like wolvie, I don't: He reminds me of the guys that used to pick on me in middle school... Cyclops seems like a sensible guy, but for some reason, things never seem to go his way and he always comes off looking like a tool. (Not in a logical way but Wiley Coyote style he just gets shanked).

Cyclops vs Wolverine?

If Wolverine is more than 20 feet away, Wolvie is at Cyclops' mercy. Cyclops does not have to 'get a bead' on anything, he just looks and destroys. Fight over.

If Wolverine is within ten feet (like in the only fight I remember) Cyclops is at Wolverine's mercy.

Now who would win a 'fight to the death?' Maybe Wolvie, cuz cyclops would have to win a fight AND Figure out how to kill Wolverine... which isn't hard, just drown him. Does Wolverine die if you strip all the flesh off his bones... Cyke could probably do that, too... so many ways for Cyclops to win... all he needs is a few yards...

the next question hypester is would cyke's beam be ENOUGH powerfull to destroy wolverine (if he would be that 20 feet away)

Wolverine would kick Cyclops ass every time he so just a jock!

no... Cyclops would have to go and finish him off after he's knocked out...

would it even knock him out? and if it would, how is cyke supposed to kill him after that? with all those metal bones, eh?

???? Wolverine gets knocked out by bullets (in the movies, at least) Cyclops' blast takes out buildings if he doesn't restrain himself. KOing Wolvie is no problem.

I don't know what Cyclops would do, but If I were Cyclops I would:
A) Push (with my beam) Wolvie into the nearest body of water, thus drowning him
B) Stand over him blast at his face until all the flesh is gone and all he's left with is an adamantium skull... do this to the rest of his body as well until it's completely stripped of flesh... nothing to regenerate
C) Turn him back over to Weapon X and get a full bank account ("I'm sorry sir, your bank account is full, we cannot take any more deposits..."

you. are. evil i'm for drowning

Wolverine had his flesh burnt off with acid courtesy of the Punisher but he still recovered real quick so blastin off his flesh is out of the question hypster.

hah! so cyke can't kill him that way!!!!

ALL of his flesh? Like his brain and stuff too... he can just grow back from an adamantium skeleton?

Well that makes him immortal, in my book, if I can get rid of everything about him that's not unbreakable and he just grows back out of thin air... he's not killable, right? Is there anyone that CAN kill wolverine? I remember a sentinel doing it in the days of future past by flash frying him... maybe I'm mistaken...

well... magneto can kill him and we can drown him.... you can see more brilliant ideas on the how to kil

Don't forget the volcano!

It makes me angry when people deem Logan 'immortal.' He is not!

Hypester> When i said flesh i meant all of it down to the adamantium skeleton so he did have something for his flesh to grow back from.

_Cyclops_> Calm down, we know he's not immortal it's just that hypester misinterpreted what i said.

well yes like stated Magneto can kill Wolvie hes done it before.. the most excrusiating pin i can imagine is having my bones plated with a metal and then stripped from my body.... now movie wise Cyke would have Wolvie at his mercy in a second for the fact they made him look too weak knocking him out from a bullet..

but think of this Wolvie is an animal who is bent on survival
Cyke is a man bent on life

both want to live but Cyke would have a harder time killing Wolvie emotionally.. If you think about it he doesnt really kill anyone directly because he wants to preserve life not destroy it

I think Cyke would have Wolvie unconscous and then contain in somehow which is very easily done if you place him in an Adamantium cage muwuhaha

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