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Fire
Do I always get in discussions with 14-15 year old american girls on this forum?

can anyone tell me why?
-cause altho I love to discuss I'm getting a bit tired of this-

For many F*cking Reasons

BLACKANGEL
maybe its youre attitude

LanceWindu
Cause you are a pedophile who loves America?

laughing out loud j/k

Umm...because that's what happens when you join discussions.

BLACKANGEL
confused

Fire
lol Lance that's a LIE actualy that's 2 big grin
well that could be possible

and
BA as far as I know I don't have an attitude, ppl just always assume to much when they read what I write

BLACKANGEL
tell me what wrong with have a conversation with them. even if they are Americans

Tired Hiker
Because there are to many old american priests pretending to be 15 year old talking to Fire.

BLACKANGEL
then dont write something that would make them assume

BLACKANGEL
priests? ok thats just nasty.
now could someone tell me why i always get into fights with men in these forms

Fire
oooh that's a good one TH


well BA, imo I have still to meet the first intelligent 14-15 year old ever.
Most of them don't debate very well, being american only makes it worse.

(yea everybody can know, tho most already do, I dislike america, tho that doesn't mean that I dislike all americans, I have many american friends)

Fire
EVERYONE ASSUMES

it is scientificaly proven that everyone will find another meaning behind the same sentence

Tired Hiker
Because it gives you a boner? eek! stick out tongue smokin'

Fire
LOL

LanceWindu
laughing out loud

BLACKANGEL
please explain are trying to called 14-15 stupid. cuz maybe im not reading right. some americans cant debate, cuz if i met you face to face i would win a debate.

Veralidaine
well i'm 15, but i'm from australia, i can have serious conversations, and some totally ridiculous ones, but i'm datz normal, coz everyone has two side to them........

BLACKANGEL
maybe its the fact that where you at and where other americans are at yall think different. cuz you all the way at Belgium im at New york boo i dont need to thin like you

BLACKANGEL
think*

LanceWindu
I am ASSUMING that means me.

BLACKANGEL
see i would say i dislike Belguim people but then ill just be lying to myself. i really cant hate someone even if they hate me.

Tired Hiker
Kill Bill rocked!

BLACKANGEL
T.H is there something about you that you come out of now where with these comments

LanceWindu
It's called the OFF TOPIC FORUM for a reason BA, he can post what he wants, where he wants.

Fire
LOL beating me in a debate, I have to see that before I believe it. I have no idea who you are up against girl

I never ever forced ppl to think the way I think. Eventho I am a socialist I think the individual freedom of ppl every important.
and everyone thought like me, altho the world would be a better place, it would be very boring.

also I never said all 14-15 year olds are dumb, I just said I still have to meet the first intelligent one.

Fire
yes lance you are one of those american friends smile

bLooMiLiCioUs
*pouts*feels insulted*

Veralidaine
ok, what would you define as intelligent?

LanceWindu
Intelligence meaning wisdom...right?

Veralidaine
yes

Fire
knowing when to shut up and just listen, if you are trying to argue make a sollid arguement which is based on facts, rather than on opinions.
and things like that it aint because you have a high IQ score, like 40% of this forum that I consider you intelligent

Tired Hiker
Wait, was that a question?

BLACKANGEL
i dont need to know what im up against at least i have the courage to go against it. im not going to back down cuz its you. maybe its you who doesnt know who you are going up against.

Veralidaine
but to be honest, i dont think that 15 yr olds can be wise.......only much older and experienced individuals can be wise......

Fire
nah not really Lance, cause it is impossible for a 14-15 year old to be wise. tho it is possible, won't happen often, for a 14-15 year old to be intelligent

Veralidaine
intelligent, but not wise......

BLACKANGEL
Nothing T.H

freedom of speech.

BLACKANGEL
14-15 years could be intelligent. you just have to look for them.

Fire
you implying I don't have the courage to debate with you?
I never said you should back down, and indeed I don't know what I am up against either

Veralidaine
fire, thats a bit biast, " tho it wont happen often for a 14, 15 yr old to be intelligent"

BLACKANGEL
not many people belive there child could be intelligent so they dont try to make them intelligent

Fire
maybe, but I consider it truth till I find the first intelligent 14-15 year old

Veralidaine
A debate with who? me or B.A?

Fire
I dunno you'd have to debate about a given topic first and debating online is hardly like debating IRL

LanceWindu
* searches, doesn't se any child protiges in this thread *

BLACKANGEL
why would you think im saying you dont have the courage to debate me. did i write that down. or did you assume it.

Veralidaine
ah, true.......but you have seriously never met or spoken, or chatted to an intelligent 14, 15 yr old?

Fire
weird People

My parents did everything they could to make me and my bro and sis intelligent so they tried to do that.

I will certaily believe my children could be intelligent so I am gonna try to make them intelligent.

But I'll make em socialists before I make em intelligent

BLACKANGEL
not for me. i need to see you to know how to beat you.

Fire
that makes no sence what so ever

Veralidaine
* searches, doesn't se any child protiges in this thread *


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we're teens, although we may just seem to be children as we are not of your age, but whoever said we were prodiges? 14, 15 yr olds can still be intelligent, no one said they had to be prodiges to be intelligent either.....

Fire
yes ver. I never met an intelligent 14-15 year old

BLACKANGEL
maybe thats youre parents but all i know is that when i do have kids im not just going to sit there and wait until they get big to go to school im giong to make a difference in there lifes. like the parents who had a three months old baby who already speaking.

Fire
I doubt rushing you're babies education like that is good.

BLACKANGEL
well not everyone is the same

Veralidaine
hmmmmm then maybe you met the wrong half.......

BLACKANGEL
oops wrong qoute

Fire
indeed, and I never said there are NO intelligent 14-15 year olds I just said I still have to meet the first intelligent 14-15 year old

BLACKANGEL
not everyone is the same

BLACKANGEL
who said im rushing i know what im going to do for my baby life. im not going to be like other parents.

Fire
true but still I don't think you need to see someone to be able to beat them in a dicussion, cause it shouldn't matter who you are facing you just have to make sure whatever you say is based on sollid facts and you need to find wholes in the statement of your opponent.

To do this you do not need to see your opponent

BLACKANGEL
intelligent. what does that word mean to you.

Veralidaine
ok, i see what you mean fire, but have you really conversed properly with the teens that you have met? have you had an indepth conversation with them?

BLACKANGEL
omg im so tired.

BLACKANGEL
notice this is coming out of youre mouth. not mines. this is youre op pion not mines.

Fire
well being on the socialist debate team I have debated some 14-15 year olds yes.
BA I explained to Ver. what I mean with intelligent it is a few pages back

Veralidaine
lol, change of topic.......but how cum ur tired? i'm really hyped up!

BLACKANGEL
i really dont feel like looking for it. plz explain it again. i need to know what you find the word intelligent means to you.

BLACKANGEL
its 5: 40 am here. i cant sleep until now but since hes keeping me up. i dont want to sleep

Veralidaine
ohhh i see, then perhaps this could have been mentioned earlier, as a re enforcement to your first statement...

Fire
intelligent:
knowing when to shut up and just listen, if you are trying to argue make a sollid arguement which is based on facts, rather than on opinions.
and things like that it aint because you have a high IQ score, like 40% of this forum that I consider you intelligent

Veralidaine
woah? 540? Its only 10.00pm ova here........

LanceWindu
240 am here

Veralidaine
fire you have made a excellent definition of intelligent..

BLACKANGEL
i really dont know who you are basing that to but

intelligent : someone smater then what they are supose to be in there age.

thats what i think it means.

Veralidaine
what time do you ppl usually stay up till?

BLACKANGEL
smarter

Fire
I don't consider it perfect, nor do I consider it to be excellent, but I do consider it to be mine. as words are nothing since they are just labels for idea's that is my idea of intelligence

BLACKANGEL
me 10pm.

BLACKANGEL
do you consider youre self intelligent

Fire
01.00 AM on week days 02.00 AM in the weekend

Veralidaine
ah, good points......

BLACKANGEL
you i would not be surpirse if i fall asleep right now

LanceWindu
I ususally stay up til 5:00 am

BLACKANGEL
yo

Veralidaine
how old r u fire?

BLACKANGEL
ver do you consider youre self intelligent

Veralidaine
soz B A.........so u dun go to bed later than that?

Fire
wether or not I consider myself intelligent is irrelevant(sp) but yes I consider myself fairly intelligent.

But I don't see to be the only one to think that since my friends, collegues, professors and teachers think that too.
And that is far more important

Fire
I'm 19 Ver.

Veralidaine
yeh i stay up till bout 5 as well......or sumtimes a bit earlier lyk 3, datz when i just get really tired......

Storm
Intelligence can be defined as the process or force which creates the information needed to solve a maze problem where the required information was neither pre-existing nor available from the environment.

BLACKANGEL
ok well im a 15 year old girl and i consider myself intelligent. just like you my friends and teacher think im intelligent to. but what use is it for you.

Veralidaine
ah, then in all honesty, i cannot be expected to "out do" a 19 yr old,......for with age comes wisdom........

LanceWindu
19 kicks ass!

* Proves he is 19 too *

BLACKANGEL
i think i could out do a 19 year old. when theres a will theres a way.

Veralidaine
and i am notover confident, noe cocky, henceforth my comment above......

Tired Hiker
Yeah, I'm hella wise. I'm like thirty.

Veralidaine
*nor

Fire
wisdom has nothing to do with debating, atleast not in my book.
the only difference is the 19th year old will have had more time to practice and read up about the subject that is being debated.

indeed that has very lil use for me BA

Veralidaine
seriously? thirty.......

BLACKANGEL
im am so sleepy. i hope fire isnt writing a whole paragraph

BLACKANGEL
like youre age have very lil use for me big grin

Fire
well Ver. asked my age so I gave it to her

Fire
anywayz I'm off for dinner since it is noon in Belgium

BLACKANGEL
what time is it over there fire

Fire
11.55 AM

BLACKANGEL
my aunt eating dinner right now to. well ill finsih you off later fire big grin stick out tongue

BLACKANGEL
not dinner im mean breakfest

BLACKANGEL
im kinda of going to miss him. i like arguing with him. sad

Storm
Then we should find a proper topic first where we can all debate about smile

Veralidaine
lol....he is a hard competitor.....

Veralidaine
ey storm ur sig iz mad!

BLACKANGEL
yea well...i still think i could beat him.

Veralidaine
den go for it! yes
after all, in the end its about the strength you carry within your own mind........

Storm
that was still nothing
once we' ve been discussing Anselm' s proof for the existence of God smile

BLACKANGEL
you belive in god

Veralidaine
woah, i can see that some of the topics under discussion are very indepth indeed........

Storm
no I don' t
but his proof was very interesting and made actually sense somehow, that' s why we' ve been discussing it

LanceWindu
How about...

Is there really a need to watch porn?

I say yes!

BLACKANGEL
hey you know i didnt know fire was talking to me in another topic

Veralidaine
lol lance windu........

Veralidaine
um new topic...life after death? nah, not much evidence to back that up......
the meaning of life......

LanceWindu
If there is ANY life after death it will be reincarnation.

Veralidaine
thats what i mean......

Veralidaine
so do you believe in reincarnation?

BLACKANGEL
what about heavan and hell

LanceWindu
If there is no life after death then I am glad I was born in this time period, and not in the 1800's or something like that.

Veralidaine
same here.......such interesting things had not been invented in that time.....

LanceWindu
I don't believe in god or the devil, so I say there is none.

Veralidaine
what about heavan and hell

well......thats a hard topic, considering many people are influenced by such theories.......

Veralidaine
but despite that, yes, i do believe in heaven.......but i am not certain of hell.

Veralidaine
are you athyest lance?

BLACKANGEL
i belive in both

Storm
believing in heaven implies also believing in hell

LanceWindu
Ver> Yes I am.

Storm is right too...if you believe in Heaven then you HAVE to believe in Hell, every good has it's evil.

Veralidaine
really? but perhaps the influence of what hell is has taken my mind, maybe the whole good vz evil thing is somewhat hard to believe in my mind.........

BLACKANGEL
not really. i learn in school a religion that believe in heaven but not in hell. they believe in different levels of heaven.

Storm
but in that religion, the lowest level of heaven will probably be considered as a not so recommendable place to get stuck in then

LanceWindu
Watch Star Wars, that's a basic Good Vs. Evil, Light Vs. Dark story.

Veralidaine
star wars? but star wars is not reality........

Veralidaine
in all movies, books, etc, when there is a good side, there is also an evil side, but that is just to counter part the good, for without evil, the story would be boring and unimaginative......

Veralidaine
but, now i have considered you words on hell, and, i have to say that maybe there is some evil, but not to the extremes of hell.........or, how it is implied to be......

Fire
about heaven and hell, I am not a 100% sure, since it was a long time since I opened the book, but I doubt the bible mentions Hell.

I once read in Time magazine that Hell was invented by the catholic Church, also as far as I can remember no story about jesus, the real source of our faith, ever talks about him talking about a place like hell.

Also it is stated in the bible that God forgives 7*70 times, 7 being a holy number it actualy means god forgives nearly everything. If God forgives nearly everything there would be no, or atleast very little, point to hell

Storm
Heaven and hell are a state of mind. But the question is: "Why do we need the idea of heaven or hell?"

Fire
Heaven and hell are part of religion
Because we need to have a purpose and a goal and that is our purpose and our goal

but in modern days ppl don't want to have a purpose anymore so they are becoming atheists

yerssot
hell isn't specificly mentioned as far as I have read in my book, who quotes about damnation and all
it says that when you die god will not recognise you if you are on his lefthand and you will not get salvation

that's about it I think
though, should check the bible itself, perhaps wink

BLACKANGEL
the bible does mention hell just not its name. the lake of fire is hell.

yerssot
but they expended it to the entire kingdom of the devil with fire and beasts etc.
could you give the exact location of the mentioning please?

BLACKANGEL
aaaaah, i know its in revalation

BLACKANGEL
when they say that he will throw all sinners in the lake of fire for all eternity

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