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finti said, "Give me Clinton any time at least he was Humble."

No he wasn't. Clinton was one of the most arrogant people to ever take the presidency. We in the US (at least, those of us who've retained free minds) recognized Clinton as a power-mad dictator. Even if you didn't see him that way, it doesn't alter the truth of it. He was one of the most image-obsessed power-mongering politicians ever! He was a suit, nothing more.

I'm closing this thread, as was previously stated no-one is interested in discussing controversial politics.

Also HavocHound, consider this your first formal warning from me.