Kyber Dart

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Dim
Do you think it's a ship or a weapon?

Ratcat
Could be related to the Kyber Crystal as seen in Splinter of the Minds Eye???

King Jedi
Maybe it is a planet.

Ratcat
Maybe it's the name of that yellow hot rod speeder from the select pic???

Dim
I don't think it's a planet. GL hasn't named a planet anything like that in the past. I do think it could be a speeder or a small fighter though...I think it could be a cool name for that.

King Jedi
It could be a part of space like the Kessel-Run, only this time it's the Kyber- Dart.wink

Dim
Haha...I would never had thought of that one!...

Dim
I read that the Kyber Dart is used by Aurra Sing.

Jedi Mercenary
I think it's most likely that kyber dart is a ship.(Planet,hah!!)

King Jedi
Why not a planet?

Jedi Mercenary
Darts have a tendacy to fly fast, I don't think a planet could do that.

Xantos Clone
heheh....it makes me laugh as I picture Yoda throughing these things at palpy.....hehehe...

Kind of like little mini-me lightsabers!!

"take that......and that.....and that too!!"
and palpy saying "ahhh...it's only a flesh wound...take this....and this"

Dim
Palpatine would have a bunch of darts stuck in his knee caps laughing out loud OUCH!

King Jedi
Jedi Merc- You are getting better. Honestly, one day you might make someone laugh.

I don't think Kyber Dart is a weapon because why would Lucas buy the name of a weapon? I think dart means something else.

TLeeT2012
I think Ratcat's idea of the Kyber Dart maybe vbeing the yellow "hot rod" type vehicle from the select image is a good idea. I'm going with that one for now.

Dim
Honestly I think it's going to be a weapon but I like the name for a vehicle too. smile

Xantos Clone
hmmm....maybe it's actually a new technology that palpy and his rising empire are working on that will ultimately leed to the major weapon...."THE DEATH STAR"...could be at the core of the major laser blast we now know can blast an entire planet to pieces...

"destroyed.....by the empire"

or....it couuld be something that aids in the cloning process......

Dim
maybe it's one of those new supped up little scooters that all the kids have...LFL is planning their own line of SW scooters wink

Great Master Brit Hunt
I've heard this is going to be what the Jedi call there ships.

Xantos Clone
anyone up for a game of "kyber darts"?....best of 10?....no....

Dim
Are you crazy? I don't want to die! jeesh..you're reckless, XC wink

Darth Daft
Where did you get the word "Kyber-dart" from? Is it some new rumour that I've missed?

King Jedi
It was a domain name registered to Lucasfilm.smile

Darth Daft
Oh riiiight. It might just be a red herring.

Ratcat
He has a point chaps, it could be that Lucasfilms considers the few thousand dollars it's spent on domain names as a good investment if it throws us off the track.

The speculation of Episode-II is phenomenal, much bigger than even Episode-I.

Darth Daft
Yeah I guess it's because no one had much knowledge of what happens before Episode 1. Now that we've come to Episode 2 we can use all the knowledge from Ep1 to speculate things.

Dim
Do you honestly think that LFL is speading misinformation?..I have mixed feelings..but I'd bet that Kyber Dart is for real...and not that significant.

Ratcat
I really don't know Dim, I too have mixed ideas on this but what I am saying is that the cost, maybe $5000.00 or so is a drop in the ocean on a $115 million film.

And, even since 97-99 when episode-I was in production, the growth in the Internet and the number of online people has grown tremendously.

In truth I would like to think that my initial thoughts on the Dart being some kind of vehicle are closer to the truth than a disinfomation campaign.

Dim
Oh I agree that it's cheap to do..if that's their idea...And you might be right about the Kyber Dart being a vehicle...based on current rumor I don't see why they would even think to reserve a domain for a weapon like that...it doesn't sound so interesting that someone one would want a site named that...but of course..I could be wrong.

Ratcat
I'm still not sure, just look at how much we've talked about it.

Darth Daft
I think the kyber dart is this evil little flying creature like those mynocks that attack the Millenium Falcon in TESB.

King Jedi
If I was Lucas then I would definately be giving out wrong information. I would also get Lucas employees to contact sites like TFN and give them wrong info. Anything to protect all of the hard work that they are putting in.

Darth Daft
I agree. It sounds like it's been real hard work for Lucasfilm preventing people from finding out stuff and sneaking onto the set. I think some of the select pictures are there to confuse us too. The one with the possible lightsabre duel looks fake to me.

Ratcat
Oh most definately. It will be interesting to go back and look at then all when the film is fanally released to see how close to the mark we all got.

Darth Daft
Yeah when its released we could look through all the select pics and see if you can recognise where they're from. I reckon most of the pics are tiny little things in the background that are hard to spot.

Dim
I think this whole clue business is funny..it makes me wonder what we're not finding...it's funny how the select pics have been more informative than those "on location" clips. smile

Darth Daft
I never watch any of them. They seem pretty dull to me. I always look forward to Friday though, when the Select Picture comes.

Ratcat
I think it's probably easier to hide something in a still image than it is in a moving video.

Darth Daft
Hey Ratcat have you got the new Star Wars UK magazine? It has some new cool episode 2 pics not seen on the site.

queeq
OK spoiler alert: the Kyber Dart is rumoured to be the thing Jango Fett uses to kill the bounty hunter Zam Wessl (or something like that) after she is chased by Anakin and Obi-Wan through the streets of Coruscant. The chase either starts or ends in a Coruscant Night Club. Possibly Zam is killed because she may have some important info.

Now Kyber comes from the illustrious Kyber Crystal which Lucas used in one of his early drafts of A New Hope. It was to be the thing that could enhance the Force or something. So an object desired by both light and dark sides. It became redundant later on when Lucas decided that a mystery to the Force was better and he didn't really need the Crystal. Seems like he likes recycling like he did with the shiny silver space ship. That was also in one of the early drafts and now it features in TPM.

There you go.

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Ratcat
This is the same item as featured in the novel Crystal of the Minds Eye?

That was called the Kyber Crystal I think.

I have nevel read that novel so I can't be sure.

queeq
Yes it is, RatCat. But it's called "Splinter of the Mind's Eye." Sorry to correct you.

I have read it, a long time ago though. I still have it somewhere...

queeq out

Darth Daft
I've not read it, but I've heard that Vader loses his right arm during the novel and has it replaced with the artificial one that Luke chops off in ROTJ. Is that right?

queeq
Well, yes... in a sense. I don't believe Lucas uses EU as a basis for his films so much and Splinter was written before ROTJ came out. So the fact that Vader gets his arm cut off by Luke in this novel is not necessarily the canon cause of his artificial right arm. Episode 3 will surrender the answer. If Vader looses his arm there, then officially Luke has cut off and artificial arm, which then becomes a habit.

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Darth Daft
I agree. I'm guessing he will loose many limbs when they are burnt off when he falls into the lava. That scene could be pretty scary couldn't it? I wonder if we'll have the first PG-rated Star Wars movie.

queeq
I doubt it'll be PG-rated. And it's still only a rumour that he will indeed fall into lava. I still wonder where that came from. And how could anyone survive falling into lava.
Ah well, we'll find out in about four years I guess.

queeq out

Ratcat
queeg, no need to appologies. As soon as I read you post I remembered it.

The Lava thing, I thought bthat actually came from Lucas himself in an interview made between ANH and ESB but I may be mistaken (again smile )

Darth Daft
Yes, it is such a major thing now that Lucas would be very daring if he were to change it. Perhaps its not lava, but just hot ash or something. Perhaps the reason he looses so many limbs is because as he tumbles into the volcano or pit or whatever it is he is caught on a lot of rocks and injured very badly, meaning he would have to have amputation, although perhaps that sounds a little far-fetched. But then, a lot of Star Wars is far-fetched. And do many fans care? I don't.

queeq
Well, I know Lucas said it a long time ago. But then again, Lucas has been known to change his mind...from time to time...
We'll see...

queeq out

Darth Daft
But did he change his mind on things as important as this? ALL sources say that Anakin was injured as he fell into lava during a battle with Obi-Wan and although that doesn't nesecarily make them cannon, I still don't think GL would dare to change it. I guess it would make a good surprise for the fans, but still, he did say in an interview that he wants to direct Episode 3 mainly because of his interests in filming the lava fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan.
Like you said, he COULD change his mind. But is there a need for it?

queeq
Well, there is always the question of how one could survive falling into lava? The Force is strong, but not that strong? It would make a great scenery for a climactic light sabre battle, though.

queeq out

Ratcat
He doesn't have to be totally submerged, if he kinda slid sideways down he could loose limbs on one side of his body without being killed.

Also, as DD and other have said, GL would have to be brave to change that part of the story even if it's not cannon yet, he needs to make it so because it's been engraioned into SW history by the fans for too long.

queeq
So why would OB1 leave him then if he doesn't actually fall in? Wouldn't he try to save him? Or kill him to make sure? OB1 must believe somehow Anakin is dead and then find out he's alive and "well" with good old Palpy.

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Darth Daft
I'm pretty sure Obi-Wan would do his best to save Anakin from the lava. I don't think it will be Obi-Wan's intention to kill Anakin, it will actually be vice-versa and Obi-Wan just has to defend himself. However, during the course of the battle he accidently knocks Anakin into the pit while making a large strike with his sabre and then tries to help him out. And then, I presume, Palpatine will arrive rather quickly and stormtroopers would get Anakin out, Obi-Wan escaping somehow.

Ratcat
I don't like that idea, though I have heard it several times from different people.

The idea of Palpatine "swooping" in just makes it all too convienient.

Darth Daft
Ok, I see what you mean. But how else would it happen? I can't imagine Palpatine just standing there waiting for something to happen.

queeq
I don't really know. Maybe Anakin survives somehow and manages to drag himself to safety in order to contact Palpy. I know it's a bit weird, but that's what you get with that lava-story.

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Ratcat
I'd prefer that. Or have Anakin and Palpy battle Obi Wan together.

queeq
That'd be cool. Maybe OB1 goes on to battle Palpy, as Anakin gets only close to mortally wounded.

queeq out

Darth Daft
Yeah I guess it would make kind of a similar scene to the one at the end of ROTJ with Vader, Luke and Palpatine. It would be Anakin's major point of turning to the Dark Side and beginning his hate for Obi-Wan.

Ratcat
I heard somewhere, TF.N I think, that there is a rumour that Anakin will turn in the heat of a major battle.

That would indeed tie in eith my previous comments.

queeq
Yes, but that rumour was about a fight in Ep2. And Anakin would be on one side (the good guys first) and then suddenly turn to the dark side and join the bad guys. A very unlikely scenario. Anakin should not turn until Ep3 in my opinion. And I think both Lucas and McCallum said something like that before as well.

It's a very strange and unbelievable rumour, IMHO OC.

queeq out

Ratcat
If you read the plot line at Aldera.Net it looks quite workable for Anakin to end up turning mid battle.

However, I don't like the idea of him loosing a hand. Plus I always envisaged him turning and almost imediately having the battle that causes him to have to wear the suit (Lava being the fate of choice)...

But that can't happen until Episode-III, right???

OneArmedWampa
i've read a million rumors and things that supposedly came from lucas. but i think the full on turn won't come until episode 3. i think it might seem like an imediate turn to the darkside in a particular instant, but there will be a series of small incidents throughout ep. 2&3 that will lead up to it. (i.e. acts of defiance and some minor outbursts of anger, etc.) i also have a feeling that the turn will come in a situation simillar to rotj, but anakin will not make the same decision as luke.

Darth Daft
I agree. Luke was so close to turning to the Dark Side and he only just managed to control himself. I would like it if Anakin is very much the same and really wants to stay on the light side, but just can't control himself against Palpatine. I want his turn to be very close, something that would never have happened if he had only just held on a little longer like Luke did.

queeq
I think Episode2 would be too soon. We have to experience some of the intense friendship between Anakin and Obi-Wan first, I think. If Anakin would turn and fight OB1 after many frustrations in Ep2, than their friendship would not be very credible.

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Dim
Yes, there is no reason to such these things..

queeq
Indeed.

queeq out

Darth Daft
I agree... laughing out loud

queeq
So do I...

queeq out

Darth Daft
Ha ha. I think we'd better stop before we get told off for making useless posts. Now where were we?

Gundark
Okay, boys and girls. It is called the Kaiburr crystal, and its purpose is to increase one's perception of the force. It magnifies and clarifies in proportion to its size and density. In the beginning of the book, Luke had access to only a shard of the whole crystal which ultimately turned out to be big enough that it had to be handled with two hands. I won't tell the ending of the book for you folks who haven't read it, but this whole story is about half out of whack with the whole entire saga. Yes, Luke does chop off Vaders right arm, ala ROTJ. However, two spoilers here (ooohhh, old dusty 1978 spoilers) Luke nearly kisses Leia and Vader says "I'm sorry, Leia, I loved you." Great stuff, huh. We have a planet called Mimban, creatures like Yuzzem, Coway and Thrella (which they never explain). And last but not least, Captain-Supervisor Grammel, which as you might guess, quickly irritates our beloved Darth Vader and ends up as bantha poodoo. (I love that word, can't you tell I use it all the time stick out tongue ) That's the update from lovely small town Pennsylvania. Any questions, class ?

SebulbaStar
Do you think this Kyber Darth Crystal has anything to do with the Midiclorians non-sense in Episode 2, since George said it would be more explained in the next films?

With all from what I have heard, this film is gonna kick butt, geez, I can't wait!
-Tim
www.sebulbashack.com

Darth Daft
I doubt this "kyber darth crystal," as you call it, would have much to do with midichlorians, as they are living things that live to support other living things. I don't think the crystal would have much connection with them if it's not a living thing.

Ratcat
On the subject of the book, wasn't it written by some big author like Stevn King or something?

queeq
I doubt that book offers spoilers. It's EU, remember! There is no way that novel provides a reliable background for the prequels, or even for ESB and ROTJ.

As far as we know Jango uses a Kyber Dart to kill of bounty hunter Zam Wessel, which indicates to me he reuses an old name or concept which has no relation to the origins of the name. Lucas once said he left the Crystal out of ANH because he saw no necessity in using it and that Force was better left a bit mysterious.

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Ratcat
It was Alan Dean Foster.

I think the darts are fired from his Knee pads.

queeq
Cool! Lethal knee caps. That'll put the old kick in the groin out of business.

queeq out

Ratcat
Yeah. These were notable absent from the Boba Fett costume but have been visible in the spy pictures of Temura Morrisson and in the "Singing in the Rain" select picture.

queeq
Oh yeah, I remember know. How does one aim a knee, though?

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Ratcat
Carefully!!! laughing out loud

queeq
LOL smile

queeq out

Darth Daft
There were also dart/blade things on Morrison's wrist that looked a lot like Wolverine's knuckle blades. I wonder if Jango Fett is any good at short-range attack or if he just sticks with guns and projectiles.

Ratcat
Cool, does he have an adamantium skeleton as well? Wait, I know, Padme could develop an inate abilty to control the weather as well. Then stick Mace in a wheel chair and he could be the leader.

Jar Jar could fire concussive optic blasts from his eyes.

Hey, this is all starting to piece together1 laughing out loud

Darth Daft
Yeah and Darth Maul is obviously Toad because they were both played by Ray Park!

Ratcat
Bugger, I missed the obvious one!!!!!

Darth Daft
Shame that a Star Trek guy has to be included though.

Ratcat
Sorry, took a second to relaise you were refering to Patrick Stewart. Well at least he's a half decent actor. Classically trained at the RSC don't you know.

queeq
Patrick Stewart? What's that all about then?

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Dim
He does Shakespeare and Sci-fi...

Ratcat
Before Star Trek he was primarily a Stage actor, He's a member of the Royal Shakespeare Company.

queeq
Oh, yeah, I got that. I thought he was brought up because he had some relevance to Ep2. But I guess I misunderstood. I loved him in Excalibur.

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Darth Daft
Christopher Lee stars opposite Ian MacKellen in Lord of the Rings and MacKellan was also in X-Men.
Sorry, I have this urge to keep trying to find connections between Star Wars and X-Men.

queeq
That's allright. I didn't know Lee's going to star in LOTR. MacKellen plays Gandalf right? So who does Lee play. He could be aa great Gandalf too.

But we digress. Will Gandalf wear robes like OB1?

queeq out

Dim
Yes...but they will not be brown...maybe a lovely shade of...grey?

queeq
Dark blue, maybe?

queeq out

Darth Daft
In Lord of the Rings Christopher Lee plays Saruman the wizard. I haven't read the books, so I don't quite know the storyline. Is Saruman an evil wizard? I'm sure that's what Lee would be best at playing.

Dim
If I remember right...he's a good wizard..I think he's kind of a mentor to that one guy....the main guy...(I guess this is the long way of saying that I don't really know)

Jedi Mercenary
Lord of the Rings eh?? that's a good trilogy . Speaking of trilogy's let's start talking about another famous trilogy.Star Wars

queeq
Star Wars? What's that then?

queeq out

Ratcat
Merc, I know you're in Star Wars cold turkey, but I think this thread has run it's course.....

queeq
What was it about again? Oh yes, Kyber darts. Ooooonehundredandeieieiei
eieieighty.

queeq out

Ratcat
Yeah it did kinda wander a bit but I think Dim or UBH, if he'
s back, will do the honourable thing to this one at 102 posts
and TOTALLY off the point where it started anyway.

queeq
Oh, you're no fun anymore...

queeq out

Ratcat
Oh I'm sorry ..... <img src=http:
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Darth Daft
Well how about we all just have a huge lightsabre duel? Come
on, it'll be fun.

<Darth Daft activates his turqouise
coloured lightsabre>

Ratcat
Personally I think this tread has run it's lofe now. Dim, please kill it at 106 posts.

queeq
Hehehehe, Dim's busy with other things for a few days. Let's fight.

*ignites two purple lightsabre and charges Dart Daft

to be continued....*

queeq out

Dim
Opps...sorry, I've gotten really busy..

Topic closed..

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