Does Metal really suck?

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Gotwa
In my eyes, Death Metal > All. Kthx. smile

lil bitchiness
No. Metal doesnt suck!

Death metal, black metal is not really my thing, but it doesnt suck...nu-metal, metal, industrial..whatever...doesnt suck!! I love metal!

SilverFighter
How can I make this brief?......no Metal doesn't suck!!!!

Gotwa
Hehe.. some kid was gonna make one of these.. but yknow I made it for him.

in flames
gotwa whos that hottie in ur sig ?

death/black/doom/power/nu/industrial/melodic death are all good!

total metalhead
yes metal totally sucks.

Gotwa
That 'hottie' in my sig, as you put it, will remain undisclosed.. big grin

total metalhead
is it your mom? stick out tongue

Gotwa
No.. She's the complete opposite. stick out tongue

total metalhead
thats a shame sad

Gotwa
=o

in flames
no really who is she ?

Steven
i get annoyed.....not my type of music at all

in flames
whats your type of music ?

fanatos
Metal rulez! One of my favorite materials! Gold, sylver - that's metal! One of the most important materials on earth. big grin

TrAnCeDuO
i like metal.....but the thing is that these threads are kinda pointless bcuz all they do is start fights when we cant live with the fact that everyone has their own tastes....its bcuz we are afraid of having our beliefs destroyed....when they are not going to be if you just ignore the person...

slashwristbarbi
I like sum metal...I like Iron Maiden, Metallica, sum Black Sabbath, Motorhead, Arch Enemy, etc. But I don't like this Nu-metal stuff. But I have 2 agree with wot TrAnCeDuO just said smile

DeNiro
rock METAL FING RULES rock

tabby999
the complete opposite of your mum...YOUR DAD!

in flames
loool

must_kill_Santa
i love metal

SlipknoT
Why wouldnt you like metal

Extol
you can say metal sucks a million times, but why does it suck, ignorant fools, you can not say one genre sucks because you've barely heard a few bands. if you don't like how they sound thats called an opinion, kiddies.
and if you say they have no talent, please pick out a metal band and tell me why. I am interested in know. do you know how many confusing beats some metal bands play, can you play a double-bass drum really fast and at the same time play fast with your hands. can you remember all the switches and changes from 5beat to 6 beat to 5 beat and all that kind of stuff??

Extol
just because you don't understand doesn't mean it sucks.

Bad Boy
Extol, damn man you beat me to it!!!

I'm in a metal band, and our music is far from basic as we are all talented musicians *head swells*!

Yeah, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but it astonishing with the amount of ignorance out there! Yeah you get the simple stuff like Evanenscence and Good Charlotte, but some types of metal is some of the most talented art forms of today!

Some people should go away and get a musical education!

Extol
thank you bad boy, somebody knows how I feel about metal.
I remember I used to bash rap all the time, but I hated it when people bashed my music. So i started treating other peoples opinions as I would want mine to be treated and quite frankly I learned that not all rap is crap and I learned that not all metal,hardcore,and punk was good.

loserib
i live sleep eat and breath metal music any kind

DracotheDragon
No Metallica doesn't suck! Whoever said that needs to learn what music is!

johnny_rotten
Metal sucks more than a toothless shark on a frozen dolphin.

Fire
just the plain old heavy metal is best, the newer crap sucks

total metalhead
newer metal does not suck. no matter how much some people may hate it, metal has evolved into what it is today. a lot of the greatest metal bands of all time have become big in the 90's. SOAD, Korn, RATM, Deftones, In Flames etc. They do not suck.

loserib
in flames is the shit

total metalhead
yeah they frickin rock what albums of theirs do you have?

loserib
i have clayman its the only one i can find here in modesto plus i seen them live over the summer they were awsome all bands should take notes from in flames

total metalhead
yeah there cds are hard to find in the stores i got Reroute to Remain, Jesters Race and their first one Lunar Strain all off the web. ive never seen em live though i gotta check em out sometime.

loserib
you wont be dissapionted

finti
I like the old metal best too, but thats because I grew up when it was hot and all my friends were metal fans. If I were to be a teen today I guess I would go for the new stuff

slashwristbarbi
Well, I'm a teen today and for metal I tend to go for the older stuff like Iron Maiden and Metallica. Although I like new stuff like Kittie and Arch Enemy (with Angela on vocals)

loserib
ive seen kittie live they have a great show

Nastybutlerbob
industrial is top notch. Metal has been watered down by the mainstream and made radio friendly. The only industrial bands to get decent radio play are NIN and stabbing westward but they are both still great. If you dig Industrial in the key of ministry and NIN then you'll dig Needlework.
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in flames
opeth
arch enemy
in flames
phreion
lacuna coil
killswitch engage
soilwork
shadow fall
dark tranquilty

these bands are not very old and i think they represent the newer of metal " progressive metal" and they rock as hell.

total metalhead
Opeth, In Flames, Lacuna Coil and Killswitch are great.

Impediment
Deicide, Fear Factory, Sepultura, Soulfly, Lamb of God, Exhorder, Ministry, Rob Zombie, Napalm Death, Pantera, Down, Static-X, Life of Agony, Blood for Blood, Sevendust, Hatebreed, Clutch, Machinehead, Slipknot, Obituary, Morbid Angel, Cannibal Corpse, Prong, Entombed, Biohazard, Danzig, Rollins Band, Damageplan, Anthrax, Type O Negative, ..............are all great examples of what good metal music is, and that is doesnt suck.

Konjammenson
I loves me metal.

eggmayo
Opeth. droolio

cool_dudes_rule
metal is cool.

el_barto
Metal's good, not really what I listen to on a daily basis, but I still like it.

Slay
Metal is great.I basically listen to all types of Metal,old and new,from Iron Maiden too System of A Down,and from Metallica to Sepultura cool

jaden101
i find it funny that there are 26 votes saying metal is shit yet only one comment about it

its the same as any genre in the sense that there are people who like the more commercial metal (youe linkin park and what not) and those who listen to less commercial stuff and who attack the commercial stuff with more vitriolic hatred than people who dont like metal at all

you see the same thing happening in the rap forum...the commercialised rappers are slated while the underground artists are heralded as being better

then if an artist jumps from relative obscurity to international fame they are a sell out...regardless if their music has changed or not

the fickle world of musicians and their "fans"

Alpha Centauri
Opeth are getting bigger and bigger. That's not their fault and as long as they don't compromise theirselves or their music for popularity like Trent Reznor did, I will always support the artists I love.

-AC

Slay
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Opeth are getting bigger and bigger. That's not their fault
-AC

Like its a bad thing...

Alpha Centauri
It's not "bad". I don't particularly care to see people raping a band when they get big though.

Nothing to do with the band, I just don't particularly like that part of it.

-AC

Slay
So if the band get big,and people who also like pop music start listening to it,you'll stop listening to it? confused

Sounds shallow...

jaden101
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's not "bad". I don't particularly care to see people raping a band when they get big though.

Nothing to do with the band, I just don't particularly like that part of it.

-AC

happens alot though...

i've never really thought that it could be a bands fault that they made it big particularly if their music style hasn't changed...but so called "purists" will still try and label them as sellouts

itd even more bizzare when the opposite happens

take metallica for example...their top 3 selling albums were the black album, and justice for all amd master of puppets...a total of 28 million albums sold...when they changed their style they were labelled as sell outs for citing oasis as an influence...since then their 4 albums only sold a total of 14 million copies...half the sales for more albums...

i personally never liked the change but as AC pointed out....they make the music they want to make..not the music their fans want to make...(trent reznor AC...remember...he's doing it for him...not for you)

Alpha Centauri
Originally posted by Slay
So if the band get big,and people who also like pop music start listening to it,you'll stop listening to it? confused

Sounds shallow...

Where did I say I'll stop listening to it? You got that on your own didn't you?

Yes.

Jaden: I couldn't care less if Trent changed musical direction and it was shit. I'd just not like the album, not have a problem with him. It's the fact that he did actually and factually compromise himself for money.

He used all the excuses in the world, but anyone with a brainstem can tell they're BS. Especially seeing as he built up a specific, "I hate network" image, only to push his album on CD:UK because his most critically acclaimed album sold poorly.

-AC

jaden101
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Where did I say I'll stop listening to it? You got that on your own didn't you?

Yes.

Jaden: I couldn't care less if Trent changed musical direction and it was shit. I'd just not like the album, not have a problem with him. It's the fact that he did actually and factually compromise himself for money.

He used all the excuses in the world, but anyone with a brainstem can tell they're BS. Especially seeing as he built up a specific, "I hate network" image, only to push his album on CD:UK because his most critically acclaimed album sold poorly.

-AC

you know more about than i do...but then only he knows his reasons for changing the music he makes...peoples listening taste change as they hear more and different stuff and this will have an effect on the music they make...

Victor Von Doom
Originally posted by jaden101
happens alot though...

i've never really thought that it could be a bands fault that they made it big particularly if their music style hasn't changed...but so called "purists" will still try and label them as sellouts

itd even more bizzare when the opposite happens

take metallica for example...their top 3 selling albums were the black album, and justice for all amd master of puppets...a total of 28 million albums sold...when they changed their style they were labelled as sell outs for citing oasis as an influence...since then their 4 albums only sold a total of 14 million copies...half the sales for more albums...

i personally never liked the change but as AC pointed out....they make the music they want to make..not the music their fans want to make...(trent reznor AC...remember...he's doing it for him...not for you)

I think what people meant with Metallica is that they got shit (not that I agree, just commenting). People throw the term sell-out about too freely.

Alpha Centauri
Originally posted by jaden101
you know more about than i do...but then only he knows his reasons for changing the music he makes...peoples listening taste change as they hear more and different stuff and this will have an effect on the music they make...

Yeah that's fine with me. I don't care what direction he chooses to take his music in, I'd not have stopped supporting him for that, just voiced my dislike of the album.

It's the fact that he did what he did after.

-AC

jaden101
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I think what people meant with Metallica is that they got shit (not that I agree, just commenting). People throw the term sell-out about too freely.

indeed



guess the re-release of pretty hate machine backs up that point (again saying it was nothing to do with money)

jostopholees
The only genre that sucks is rap, becase it has very little actual musical value.

Alpha Centauri
Maybe because it doesn't technically exist.

You know what sucks? Sing, that genre sucks. Sing.

-AC

Blue_Butterfly
I like metal but not this new crap they've come out with these days called "nu-metal" Metal to me would be: Pantera, Mastodon, Machinehead, Fear Factory, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath and so on
-Metallica does'nt fall in that category anymore because they SUCK big time now.

ChickinMeat
Its all down to opinion, you can never say metal sucks, as someone else will like it. I personally am a metal fan, but i know many people who hate it.

That was far to sensible, i do apologise!

Aj333
Personally I like some bands but not the whole genre, which is why i am anti-genre because like i like some bands from diffrent genres of rock, but i wouldn't say i really like any one genre best

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