What to expect in Episode III

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MasterSkywalker
1. Tarkin (Gabe Brynes) in a large role
2. The end of The Clone Wars
3. The Death of Count Doku aka Darth Tryanus
4. The Jedi Purge
5. The Dorids geting thier memory wiped and then sold to Captan Antilles.
6. The Death of Padme
7. The Birth of Luke and Liea
8. The Planets Alderaan, Coruscant, Naboo Tatioone and Dagobah.
9. Boba Fett in a cameo role
10. Jabba The Hutt in a Cameo Role
11. The Clone Troopers become The Stromtroopers
12. The Death of Jar Jar Binks
13. Anakin Skywalker becoming Darth Vader
14. Palpatine delcaireing himself Emperor
15. Mos Eisily
16. The freeing of The Slaves if not in AOTC
17. The Birth of The Empire and The Alliance
18. Mon Mothma in a Cameo Role
19. Anakin and Obi wans Lava battle
20. Obi wan changes his name to Ben
21. The Sprit of Qui Gon Jinn
22. Yoda going into Hiding
23. Chewie in a Large role
24. Han Solo as a young boy in a cameo role
25. The Falcon
26. IG-88 in a Cameo role
27. The Death of Aurra Sing if not in AOTC
28. Palpatine's Force lighting
29. The Alliances and The Empires 1st battle
30. Geroge Lucas in a role in the flim

bigsef2
OK, theres alot of those ideas i want to shoot down, but the most blatant is where you say we will see the Rebel Alliance and Empires first battle. If i remember right, the very beginning of ANH, in the opening scroll, it says the Rebels have just been victorious in their first fight against the Empire. Sorry.

mah
what's ol' GL's role in the film?

yerssot
1. Tarkin (Gabe Brynes) in a large role
Possible in A role, doesn't have to be big
2. The end of The Clone Wars
Yes, it ended in EpIV and it started in EpII, that's logical
3. The Death of Count Doku aka Darth Tryanus
Yes, he survives EpII but he isn't around in EpIV
4. The Jedi Purge
Probably not much that will be shown
5. The Dorids geting thier memory wiped and then sold to Captan Antilles.
That their memory is wiped is a rumor, but highly probable, I think
6. The Death of Padme
This is NOT sure, and it could well be that this won't be shown!!!
7. The Birth of Luke and Liea
Yes, that's logical
8. The Planets Alderaan, Coruscant, Naboo Tatioone and Dagobah.
All probable... well, there is ONE exterior shot of Tatooine, that is known. Alderaan and Naboo are lickly
9. Boba Fett in a cameo role
That's possible yeah
10. Jabba The Hutt in a Cameo Role
Perhaps
11. The Clone Troopers become The Stromtroopers
It's a rumor that they are the same, but I think you are correct
12. The Death of Jar Jar Binks
NO NO NO!!! How much you want this to happen; it WON'T
13. Anakin Skywalker becoming Darth Vader
Well, I always hoped that you wouldn't know it, so it would be a big surprise
14. Palpatine delcaireing himself Emperor
Yes, because he isn't one in EpII
15. Mos Eisily
Sure, that has to get a part some day!
16. The freeing of The Slaves if not in AOTC
That's also true, but I think that it will be in EpIII perhaps, and only in a one-liner or so
17. The Birth of The Empire and The Alliance
the day that there is an emperor, there is the empire and the alliance
18. Mon Mothma in a Cameo Role
could well be
19. Anakin and Obi wans Lava battle
Yes, that's correct
20. Obi wan changes his name to Ben
Although it's not known why he does that, because if you want to hide you change first your LAST name
21. The Sprit of Qui Gon Jinn
PLEASE NO!!!
22. Yoda going into Hiding
Yep
23. Chewie in a Large role
Probable not, he wasn't a big character in the OT, so why now?
24. Han Solo as a young boy in a cameo role
probably not, he didn't had an entrance in OT, he was rackled up like it should be for an ex-pirate
25. The Falcon
That stands by the fact IF Lando/ Han comes in the picture
26. IG-88 in a Cameo role
If I remember who he is...
27. The Death of Aurra Sing if not in AOTC
Why would she die?
28. Palpatine's Force lighting
NO! PLEASE NOT! Let him save his powers for EpVI!
29. The Alliances and The Empires 1st battle
Could well be the Clone Wars...
30. Geroge Lucas in a role in the flim
NO

Ushgarak
Well, my comments...

1. Tarkin played by Gab Byrne in a big role
We have no good reason to think either.

2. The end of the Clone Wars
Probable

3. Death of Count Dooku
Probable

4. Jedi Purge
Unlikely to see the whole lot

5. Droids etc.
Mind-wipe is not something GL cares about, and it is some two deacdes too early for the to work for Antilles.

6. Padme's death
Not at all certain; seems to have a logical time problem.

7. Like and Leia's birth
Probable

8. The planets
Not sure about Alderan, actually

9. Boba Fett
Well, still just as a kid

10. JTH
Maybe

11. Clonetroopers become stormtroopers
Can't see it happening

12. Death of J-J
Unlikely

13. Anakin becomes Vader
VERY likely. This could not be a surprise once you have watched the prequel films, so there would be no point keeping it secret.

14. Palpatine becoming Emperor
Possibly

15. Mos Eisley...
...is in episode II, I believe.

16. Freeing of the slaves
Difficult to tell

17. Birth of Empire and Alliance
The very roots of the Alliance, perhaps, but not its actual formation

18. Mon Mothma
Pointless and unlikely

19. Lava duel
Always alot of discussion about that one...

20. Obi-Wan becomes Ben
Maybe

21. Qui-Gon as a ghost.
Difficult...

22. Yoda hiding
Probably

23. Chewie
Don't see any reason why.

24. Han Solo
Ditto

25. The Falcon
Depeneds on the Mace Windu rumours

26. IG-88
HIGHLY unlikely

27. Aurra Sing getting it
Maybe

28. Force Lightning
Depends on what sort of revelation the Emperor gets.

29. The Alliance and Empire's first battle
Two decades too early

30. GL cameo
Umm... maybe...

yerssot
Dooku has to die! Why isn't he mentioned in EpIV?

Julie
IG-88 is a droid-like bounty hunter if I remember correctly.

I agree with most of the aforementioned posts ao I won't bore you all with details.

As to why Dooku not being in OT....probably because GL hadn't dreamed the man into existence yet.

yerssot
so why would he make the PT then?

MasterSkywalker
any more comments?

yerssot
easy! we are working on it!
hope Chuwie and Han won't get in the PT

King Jedi
1. Tarkin (Gabe Brynes) in a large role
I hope so.


2. The end of The Clone Wars
Probably


3. The Death of Count Doku aka Darth Tryanus
Probably


4. The Jedi Purge
Not all of it. "Purge" is a gay act or so I'm told so can we think of a better word?



5. The Dorids geting thier memory wiped and then sold to Captan Antilles.
3PO might get his memory erased but I'll bet anything that R2 doesn't.

6. The Death of Padme
Please,please,please,please uncle george!

7. The Birth of Luke and Liea
Definatley.

8. The Planets Alderaan, Coruscant, Naboo Tatioone and Dagobah.
Maybe


9. Boba Fett in a cameo role
I think he'll have a big role.

10. Jabba The Hutt in a Cameo Role
I hope not.


11. The Clone Troopers become The Stromtroopers
Yes

12. The Death of Jar Jar Binks
No


13. Anakin Skywalker becoming Darth Vader
Yes


14. Palpatine delcaireing himself Emperor
Yes


15. Mos Eisily
No

16. The freeing of The Slaves if not in AOTC
No


17. The Birth of The Empire and The Alliance
Yes


18. Mon Mothma in a Cameo Role
Yes

19. Anakin and Obi wans Lava battle
Yes

20. Obi wan changes his name to Ben
Yes

21. The Sprit of Qui Gon Jinn
Hopefully


22. Yoda going into Hiding
Yes

23. Chewie in a Large role
Absolutley NO chance


24. Han Solo as a young boy in a cameo role
I hope not

25. The Falcon
No


26. IG-88 in a Cameo role
No

27. The Death of Aurra Sing if not in AOTC
No

28. Palpatine's Force lighting
Save it for ROTJ

29. The Alliances and The Empires 1st battle
No

30. Geroge Lucas in a role in the flim
Maybe.

yerssot
you keep it short, do you

MasterSkywalker
well why do to have killed Jar Jar Binks and Aurra Sting? they must die it will be great.

yerssot
Jar Jar WON'T die, every kid loves him, it's like killing Snowhite, impossible to do.

And Aurra, perhaps ... IF she has a role in the movie

Julie
What's wrong with killing off Snow White?.....Cinderella's much cooler cool

but I do agree that lots of people like jar jar....

bigsef2
just to clarify a bit. There will be no baby leia in Episode III. Until ROTJ, we will beleive that Anakin only had a son.

Ushgarak
Again, I repeat, surprises from the OT do NOT have to be kept for the new films. So we can very easily see a baby Leia.

bigsef2
its not a matter of it being a surprise, its just theres not REASON to have her until then. EVERYTHING in these movies is there for a purpose. GL may suck at directing, but hes a VERY GOOD storyteller. The theme of these movies is of Anakin falling, and then being redeemed through his SON. There are two and only two reasons GL made Luke and Leia siblings in the first place. 1. a surprise. and 2. It is what made Luke fulfill his destiny. Up until ROTJ, theres simply no point for Anakin to have more than two children. And there is certainly no reason for Luke to have a sister. I think GL will put something in EPIII, that in retrospect, we can see that there is another skywalker, but it will not be obvious, something very subtle. Such as TWO ships leaving padme from whereever she is at the end of EPIII, instead of just one.

Ushgarak
Well, maybe. I can't see any reason for him to leave Leia out; I mean, when you have twins it can be hard to ignore one of them. And there is the whole Bail Organa angle on it, of course.

bigsef2
its certainly not definate, its just my theory, that i base on logic, no more no less. smile and to be brutally honest, EPIII is going to have to span a 9 month time period to show us the birth of luke and leia. no star wars movie has every spanned that long a period of time. thats not to say it cant happen, but i dont think it likely. i suppose the naboo could have a really short period to carry children, but i doubt it. i really honestly doubt well even see them born. In my opinion, the movie will end with her pregnant, but the specific hope that one day her CHILD willbe born, grow up, and redeem his father. i mean, an ER style birth scene in a star wars movie? youve got to be kidding! I think the whole Bail Organa friendship with Padme is just so in ROTJ, well be like, ohhhhhh that makes sense that she would have chosen him to raise her child. where as before ROTJ, well just think, wow, bails kid is following in her daddys footsteps.

Ushgarak
Well, if the movie ends before they are born or the twins are not shown at all, then fair enough. Still, that will upset the 'Padme must die' brigade.

Julie
Here...here.....There a rough bunch that "Padme must die" brigade big grin

As for baby Leia....we could see her without Anakin knowing about her.

yerssot
how could you do that?
Remember that OB1 takes Luke away at birth, what about Leia? She droppes out a few minutes after OB1 left?

King Jedi
It's virtually the same thing.

bigsef2
to the best of my knowledge, no one has said anything about ob1 not knowing about leia. hes the one that tells luke that she is his sister, for goodness sakes! Anakin doesnt know he has a daughter until EPVI, and he may not even know he has a son until the time b/w EPIV and EPV;thats not really clear to me yet. Either way, ob1 and padme seem to be the only one that know about them both. unless yoda is the one that told ben about leia("no, there is another"wink obi-wan probably knows, and yodas comment about another is just because ben doesnt think leia has the power...

yerssot
I have troubles with that last one.
If Ben brought Luke to Tatooine, how comes he doesn't know a thing about Leia?

bigsef2
I personally think he does. How GL will explain the reason obi-wan tells yoda that luke was their only hope, remains to be seen. GL is a good story teller, but even they make mistakes. There COULD be a very good reason GL put that in the script, and he has it all planned out somehow, but I haven't thought of any explainations yet.

Ushgarak
I'm pretty sure that simply reflected Obi-Wan having no faith in Leia being a solution. And I think he was right.

yerssot
again you are right...I think...

So again it was from his point of view

Julie
confused

yerssot
OB1's point of view

his ability to change the truth (according to HIS point of view)

Ushgarak
Gee, he gets a lot of heat for that line... you guys are too harsh.

bigsef2
the whole truth depending on ones point of view is not something obiwan came up with himself. if you listen carefully in episode I, qui-gon says the same thing to obiwan, reguarding anakin being the chosen one, if i remember. thats half of why i question the whole explaination of anakins parentage. seems like foreshadowing to me

Julie
ohhh...intriguing wink

Ushgarak
Clear influences from Qui-Gon indeed. I find nothing wrong with Obi-Wan's attitude to this.

yerssot
that's because Ewan is British and you are British huh?

Ushgarak
Not at all! (Runs)

yerssot
Chicken!!!

Julie
What's that got to do with it????

yerssot
you wouldn't understand

Julie
Try me.....Yerssot evil face

yerssot
No thank you!
I have already someone thank you very much, you dirty minded!

bigsef2
lefty doesnt count

yerssot
and who is lefty exactly?

and get this bloody thread ontopic!

bigsef2
ill just say there is "lefty" and there is also "righty"

queeq
Right-oh, even.

But yes, I give OB1 a hard time for that line. It's nothing more than justifying a lie.

Ushgarak
That's very harsh. It is a 'lie' that reflects EXCATLY what Obi-Wan believes. And even Luke thought it, for a little bit- 'Then my father is truly gone'.

It was also the only sensible thing to tell him. So why the heat?

yerssot
because it's our point of view? big grin

dark lord
come on it was the only thing ben could say, take a look at the expression on bens face when he tells luke "his point of veiw", think about it, it would have been to much for luke if he knew the truth at that time at that time luke has no idea what the force is or what a jedi was, its a lot eaiser to hate some who is not a family member

give ben a break, how could u tell some1 that there dad is one of the most brutal killers the gallaxy has ever known dont u think it could messed lukes head up big time

if he knew the truth maybe luke would resent ben and the jedi and gone over to the empire

yerssot
ok, his point of view came in handy...

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