Sirius will seriously, definitely be BACK!
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Aimz Radcliffe
Hey everyone! i did this 4 Sirius (just bein stupid!)
Who wants him back????
i do..
Poor Harry, losing his one and only relative left.....i guess he still has me if that will help
Ok every1! if Sirius was real and i was about 2 put this on his gravestone, what would u write 2 him??
(hehe just an idea...u no)
silversaber
I wouldn't be able to write anything because it is just too sad and I read somewhere that he might come back.
Aimz Radcliffe
yeah......i don't no how Harry will cope wif out him..
FallenForever
he had better come back or i vote for writing a letter to jk rowling and demand her to think up a different plot where he comes back !!
Aimz Radcliffe
lol same here!! i'm in 4 dat!
~fuoco~
Sirius was my fav character outta everyine in HP!!! He better come back! I don't think he's dead! We didn't actually see him die, like if he was shot 9 times we'd kno he was dead for sure! But on the other hand, JKR was crying when she killed him off! Maybe she said she cried to throw us off and suprise us with Sirius commin back!!
silversaber
Yeh, Sirius was my favorite. *raises hand* I vote to write to JK.
Aimz Radcliffe
SOB SOB......He was 1 of my favs 2....y couldn't lucius malfoy die?????
nemo
i think he would be back, the way she killed him off just seems like she want to leave that option open.
Malfoy's chick
I think that the mirror that Sirius gave Harry was in the book for a good reason. I think Sirius will come back or talk to Harry in the 6th book. Because why would JK put that in the book for no reason. SIRIUS IS NOT GONE!!!!
LilyGinnyBlack
Yeah, I think so too! 'Cause I love Sirius
.... He is my FAVORITE character and I think there has to be some way for him to come back either as a spirit or in human form... Just some way! But, I won't write a letter to JK if he doesn't... She decides the plot and has it all worked out in her head and there is nothing we can do about it!
Malfoy's chick
SIRIUS HAS TO COME BACK!!!!! I MEAN HE IS ONE OF THE MAIN CHARACTERS. I WOULD'VE RATHER RON (I DON'T LIKE HIM) DIE THEN PADFOOT. AGHHHHHHHHHH
LilyGinnyBlack
I would rather have had Hagrid than Sirius... or better yet Umbridge.... I don't think he can be dead either.... I mean what would be the whole part of writing the third book?
crazy_c
I would hate if Hagrid died.
Aimz Radcliffe
SIRIUS WILL RETURN!! I NO HE WILL
~fuoco~
HE HAS TO!! I WON'T BE ABLE TO READ THE 6TH BOOK IF THERE'S NO SIRIUS!!!
Aimz Radcliffe
yea! poor Harry...SIRIUS NEED2 2 CUM BACK..
lova_gurl_4ya
SIRIUS HAS TO COME BACK I NOW HES NOT DEAD HE CANT BE DEAD HE HAS A TWIN FROM SOURCES
Aimz Radcliffe
NO HE'S NOT DEAD.......
Becky_banana
I know how u feel i loved sirius but i think he is dead....
Aimz Radcliffe
but y would jk put the beeper thing in the book? i think somehow with that he will return...or i am seriously gona write 2 j.k!
~fuoco~
what beeper thing?!
Aimz Radcliffe
u no the thing he gives Harry for wen he needs 2 contact sirius? (i 4got what he gave him)
~fuoco~
u lost me there.. when did nick mention that he saw sirius after he died? we don't kno yet if sirius will become a ghost or not..
leah11
Nearly headless nick told harry that sirius would not come back but i think thats a good thing. sirius was my favourite character by far but i think its stupid when people die in books and then come back 2 life. i think that harry will contact him tho. Even tho its really sad about sirius dying i think its going 2 b interesting 2 c how harry reacts 2 it in the next book. I was so depressed when sirius died but now that ive had a chance 2 get over it i think its not really such a bad thing. it sets up the next book really well.
Aimz Radcliffe
well.....i agree that sirius mite not be a person in the next book but i do think he will make contact with him.....i don't know about Cedric though...it seems a bit old now.
b-ball_chick
same dont think cedric is cumin bac. but i do miss siriusn i fink hes still alive cuz of da veil thing, whu thinks so 2?
b-ball_chick
yup! ave u? i dont mean he is like a ghost o sumfink. i meant bout da veil thin.....neva mind
Aimz Radcliffe
o yea coz wen they r goin 2 defete voldermort, they c the veil thing! u could b rite....but what happens 2 da horse fing that only harry and luna can c??
crucia
i miz sirius and im sure he'll come back
nemo
XxSamanthaxX, u sure or not. from what i remember it think harry go and ask nearly headless nick if he can see Sirius as a ghost and nearly headless nick told him only some ppl choose to be a ghost while other don't and that he haven't seen him.
i think he might come back, because JK could have killed him in a lot of ways but the way that he died seems like there might be a slight chance that he could maybe cross some line between dead and life or something and come back. afterall they could talk to the dead throught that curtain.
~fuoco~
WAIT A MINUTE!!! I JUST THOT OF SOMETHING!!! MAYBE SIRIUS CAN COME BACK!!! MEMBER IN THE 3RD BOOK, HERMOINE HAD THAT TIME-CHANGER THAT THEY USED TO GO BACK IN TIME AND SAVE SIRIUS AND BUCKBEAK?! Well maybe they can use it to go back and save sirius, for 'future harry' to warn 'past harry' about the vision he had about sirius being tortured was just a set up , so that he won't go, but that would defeat the purpose of the rest of the book. dunno just a thot, it may or may not work, but I was thinkin bout it and it hit me!!
angelsflame265
u no theres no proof that he died JK didn't say what color the spell was that hit him and no one said that, that viel kills ppl so who knows he might pull a 'gandalf' on us
~fuoco~
Ur right, JK didnt say what kinda spell Bella hit Sirius with!! It could have been a stunning spell that knocked Sirius unconcious, so when Harry called for him, he couldn't respond coz he was knocked out!!!
Aimz Radcliffe
i want sirius bac
leah11
Iim pretty much convinced that sirius is dead. It is a little uncertain coz of the veil thing but i think jk added that in 4 the purpose of the future books. The rest of the order probably no something that harry doesn't coz they were like "he's gone". we'll probably find out about it in the next book anyway. I just don't think jk would kill off a character and then come out and say "just kidding, hes really still alive."
nemo
but don't u think it's weird that she choose to kill him that way?
to me, the way he was "killed" just don't seem final.
Orli'sElf7
he actually WAS my alltime favorite character...BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do any of you remember what luna said at the end of the book???? about behind the veil?!?! i think that has sometihng to do with it because they WERE talking about sirius so i think that he will make an appearance. man, harry only relative left
~fuoco~
Maybe he was trapped in there, I dunno
nemo
XxSamanthaxX, i'm not saying he just jump out or anything. i thought maybe there would be some kind of crossing the-death-and-life line or something. he wasn't killed like cedric, we have cedric's dead body and everything. i don't know, maybe u're right, maybe he won't come back. but i just think that the way he was killed leaves an option for his coming back.
StrgzrCndyPixie
lol yeah!!!!!!!!!!! that just SO sounds like something harry would do NOT lol harry is so cautious and careful hed never just do something on impulse but it would b classic if he did freak out
Aimz Radcliffe
no! i think your correct fuoco! bcuz y would she bring the veil into the book for no reason??????????
dAn Is SeXy,HoT, fYnE aNd MiNe!!! Every1 no's dat i lurve dan ?:P and Harry Potter!
LilyGinnyBlack
NO... NO!!! Though I wish Harry could use a time turner, it would do more bad then good!
If Sirius hadn't fallen T_T, then Bellatrix wouldn't have ran and then Harry wouldn't have followed her, Dumbledore wouldn't have followed him, Voldemort and Bellatrix would have just left in an instant and Dumbledore wouldn't have been there to prolong time and let the Aurors and Minister of Magic get there in time to see Voldemort. So, if a time turner were used to go back and save Sirius the Ministry of Magic would still be denying the return of the Dark Lord and the people of the Wizarding World (most anyway) would still be in the dark about his return and a TON of other horrid stuff would have come out of this mess if Sirius hadn't fallen. So, a time turner, though I hate to say it T_T, would do more harm then good. . .
Oh, and one is NEVER.... NEVER suppose to be seen by oneself when going back through time!
raph
hey , i hate it how every still finks sirius will cum bac hes dead
leah11
I think XxsamanthaxX is dead on when she said about it being out of sirius's character and also when she said it would make the books worse if sirius came back. Every1 says "but y would Jk bring the veil into it if sirius is really dead?" but maybe she just wants 2 bring some new info about death in2 the next books. Its probably just an opening 4 future storylines. I am sure that sirius will not come back 2 life. it would ruin the whole emotional level of his death and more importantly its not in the nature of the books 4 phoney deaths 2 take place. Anyway the other characters in the books obviously no something we and harry dont. Lupin said something like "Hes gone harry" so he probably has a better idea about how the veil works. So even if sirius was knocked out or something lupin and the others would have taken this in2 account so y else would they tell harry that hed died or have held him back from getting 2 near the veil unless they new that the veil had that effect? they new the spell hadnt killed him and they saw him fall through the veil. The veil is probably some pathway 2 the dead that u can not come out of. And didnt jk say that the dead never come back 2 life in an interview? I think that if sirius is ever brought back in2 the storyline it will be as a memory or something similar, but i doubt he will ever come back 2 life or have not have been dead in the first place. Also i want 2 say gud work 2 lilyginnyblack 4 such a well-thought out theory surrounding the time turner.
raph
yea the books would suc if sirius came bac but jk wuldnt do that.
raph
but what wuz behind the viel , i want bk 6!
raph
why is no 1 sayin any thing/
raph
r u the only 1 here leah11?
raph
is any-one still here?
raph
im starting to get ****ed off that no-ones here or answering
XxSamanthaxX
Patience my friend, it is a virtue.
raph
dans a *** , cough*gay*cough!
Aimz Radcliffe
um...no he's not...he's really nice...i no him....
XxSamanthaxX
oh my god, not ANOTHER person claiming to know him. Please people, give it a rest!
Aimz Radcliffe
no...people don't hav 2 believe me...but just please...keep him out of this..
XxSamanthaxX
A bit protective are we?
Trust me, there's much worse things then "***" said about him on-line. You'll get used to it.
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***Never put a sock in a toaster***
At 2 moments did I feel the urge to be the "class clown" One was when the work was too easy, and you were bored. The second was when the work was too hard... and you were bored - why not deprive someone elce of their education?
In church, they try and convince you that there's an invisible man watching you at every moment and he doesn't want you to do 10 certain, special things. And if you do one of these 10 things, he has a special place for you. A place of fire, and smoke, and burn, and ash, and pain, and torture, and agony, and torment, and evil, and suffering........ but he LOVES you!
raph
samantha's rite aimz radcliffe every one says hes gay and if he came to their skool they wuld be the shit out of him and i think thats true , hes a good actor but seems like a retard and i doubt u no him dont pull that bulshit none believes u
raph
good on ya samnatha! now ur talkin my kinda language , YOU RULE!
raph
good on ya XxsamanathaxX! now ur talkin my kinda language , YOU RULE!
Aimz Radcliffe
wat eva.....god u ppl suc if u hav 2 say such mean fings bout them....get a life
leah11
i think he plays harry potter well and thats all i care about after all hes just a person doing a job.
susieweasley
Isn't this thread supposed to be about how much we all miss Sirius? I for one have cried many a time for Sirius! Heck, I cried from the point that Lupin tells Harry that Sirius is gone to the end of the book! I think that JK will somehow bring him back to us, maybe as a painting. Did anyone wonder how all of the talking portraits are made?
I LOVE SIRIUS!
StrgzrCndyPixie
i cried 2
it was so sad
Aimz Radcliffe
thank u for changin da subject!
yea i cryed 2.....Poor sirius
Ezkamo
man, i had tears in my eyes....but thats coz im not a crying person....hmmmmm man. i DO wonder wats gonna happen in the first book....*sigh* oh well. jk has her own reasons which we will find out soon enough....OH WHO THE HELL AM I KIDDING!!!!!!
*sobs hysterically* OMG!!! HES GOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!!!!!!!!
*beats fist on the keyboard...keyboard breaks....* uh oh....*walks away whistling*
starprincess366
whaaaaaaaa, i want sirius back. he was my faverite besides snape. cry sniff sniff. i want him back. we all need him back. F**** harry i need sirius more than he does. and fred and george won't be around much so i can't laugh at them. part of nme thinks he is still alive. o why! jk rowling is so cruel! but she would have had to do it sooner or later. but if she kills of snape then i will be a murderer(only kidding)! only after she is done with the 6th and 7th books though.
she is a good writer
starprincess366
wait a minite? didn't that mirror break?
Aimz Radcliffe
wat mirror?
~fuoco~
the mirror that sirius gave to harry, that siad whenever harry needed sirius, all he had to do is hold the mirror us and say sirius's name in it!
~fuoco~
oh, and I cried when Sirius died... i was so upset!! he was the best character in HP, i think
Aimz Radcliffe
ohh yea! that is how i think he will make contact.....but he wont cum bac completly i dont fink and well he is a good character...but LUNA'S da best!! (hehe u thought i would say Harry aye?!!)
XxSamanthaxX
Luna is kinda mental..... Really mental.
But Sirius was one of the best characters
I wish she hadn't killed him off. I was so sad when he died. Why couldn't it have been Neville or someone elce instead (I like Neville but Sirius is better)
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***Never put a sock in a toaster***
At 2 moments did I feel the urge to be the "class clown" One was when the work was too easy, and you were bored. The second was when the work was too hard... and you were bored - why not deprive someone elce of their education?
In church, they try and convince you that there's an invisible man watching you at every moment and he doesn't want you to do 10 certain, special things. And if you do one of these 10 things, he has a special place for you. A place of fire, and smoke, and burn, and ash, and pain, and torture, and agony, and torment, and evil, and suffering........ but he LOVES you!
Aimz Radcliffe
yea Luna is mental, but dat's y she's cool...coz she's crazy....u need a diff character 4 once
StrgzrCndyPixie
i get wat ur saying a character out of da norm
Aimz Radcliffe
yip...exactly there are 2 many "normal" characters
StrgzrCndyPixie
that fit the profile of typical down to earth ppl
tommy_uk1
theres no way he's really dead wotever anyone says i reckon something class will happen like he met up with harry's parents when he fell through that arch thing and some how they make their way back through
XxSamanthaxX
No Sirius isn't gonna 'rise from the dead'. Man, your expecting WAYYYY to freakin' much! I mean, Harry might make contact with Sirius again. But he's dead, and you can't just bring him back to life. Don't you think it'd be stupid, after all that Harry went through, the whole sadness, anger, and denial thing. And then Sirius just happens to just appear again? Back from the grave sort of thing?
No
I think it'd be dumb if he was alive. I hope Harry makes contact with him, but he's definatly dead.
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***Never put a sock in a toaster***
At 2 moments did I feel the urge to be the "class clown" One was when the work was too easy, and you were bored. The second was when the work was too hard... and you were bored - why not deprive someone elce of their education?
In church, they try and convince you that there's an invisible man watching you at every moment and he doesn't want you to do 10 certain, special things. And if you do one of these 10 things, he has a special place for you. A place of fire, and smoke, and burn, and ash, and pain, and torture, and agony, and torment, and evil, and suffering........ but he LOVES you!
~fuoco~
I wonder why JK put Luna in?! Like, is there a reason why, and importance to her?! Jus curiuos
nazgulinthedark
i agree w/ tommy uk1 thers no way for sirius can't be dead he has to be alive somehow
XxSamanthaxX
~fuoco~: I donno, just an annoying nusence that likes Ron I suppose. (And to make HArry feel more like a regular kid
)
nazgulinthedark: But think about it, Sirius always had that mirror to communicate with Harry whenever Harry needed him correct? Well if he was still alive, he would have been able to talk to him. And say he was just 'knocked-out'. Don't you think that he would have come back during the few weeks Harry was finishing up school?! Seriously, he's gone. He's dead, leave it at that.
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***Never put a sock in a toaster***
At 2 moments did I feel the urge to be the "class clown" One was when the work was too easy, and you were bored. The second was when the work was too hard... and you were bored - why not deprive someone elce of their education?
In church, they try and convince you that there's an invisible man watching you at every moment and he doesn't want you to do 10 certain, special things. And if you do one of these 10 things, he has a special place for you. A place of fire, and smoke, and burn, and ash, and pain, and torture, and agony, and torment, and evil, and suffering........ but he LOVES you!
StrgzrCndyPixie
i agree totally with u XxSamanthaxX
Aimz Radcliffe
J.k Put Luna in the book coz she is just like Harry, like she couls see the horses carages and stuff....so i guess mayb l8er she will b come importaint.
Oh yea and about Sirius, u neva no, but if he really died he will not come back unless mayb Harry turns back time and changes things....yea! mayb that could happen! *is proud of her idea!*
starprincess366
yah but the mirror broke! people. i wonder why he didn't repair it with repario? or something. but it wouldn't matter. o why sirius! ill never see u and snape fight over a lady or any of that good stuff! i hope she dosn't kill of snape. i went to a web site with a forum devoted to snape so now he is my favorit character! but i heard she might give snape a lady friend in book 6 or 7. and mbe kill him off too. but it wouldn't matter to harry if he is alive or not. ungratful beast! o well
XxSamanthaxX
thanks StrgzrCndyPixie.
How can you like snape? He's such an *******. Sorry, but it's my opinion, he's completley unfair, he's a stiff with no sence of humor, he doesn't like anyone, and hates Harry just because he didn't get along with his father. He's a horrible brute. (Again, sorry, I just really don't like him) The only four that are more annoying then he is, is Voldemort, Pansy Parkinson, Lockheart and Mr. Malfoy!
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***Never put a sock in a toaster***
At 2 moments did I feel the urge to be the "class clown" One was when the work was too easy, and you were bored. The second was when the work was too hard... and you were bored - why not deprive someone elce of their education?
In church, they try and convince you that there's an invisible man watching you at every moment and he doesn't want you to do 10 certain, special things. And if you do one of these 10 things, he has a special place for you. A place of fire, and smoke, and burn, and ash, and pain, and torture, and agony, and torment, and evil, and suffering........ but he LOVES you!
StrgzrCndyPixie
u really dont like him do u
Aimz Radcliffe
nope she doesn't....but i don't either....stupid snape and umbridge!! how dare you make my bf write lines!!!!!!!!!!
Aimz Radcliffe
lol sorri but she really sux
starprincess366
if snape wasn't alive harry wouldn't be here! and how does ahrry repay him? he looks at something he shouldn't have. if i were snape i would have done more than through cocraoshes at him. GO GO SLYTHERIN! GO GO SNAPE! and fyi i like sirius tooo. and i HATE UMBRIDGHE! god, i can't imagine any1 being here fan! ahh sick ppl. snape saaved harrys life tons of times and harry is just toa rrogent to thank him. selfish harry. i found a suiter devoted to snape that changed my views on how i thought about him. neat person really. some1 posted what they think will happen if snape was on queer eye for the straight guy. hillarious. and there r famous riock stars that we admire cause they look like sev. ahhh i can't give it to u unlesxss im a well known member. but its on a fan art site. jareth. look it up on google. look for /snape. go to the forum and u will see tons of snape and sirius fans. good luck
Dracos_vanilla
soo... I miss Sirius even if I haven't cried when he died
Aimz Radcliffe
me 2...cept i did cry.....he's so cool...i wish that sum1 else died...not snape (i will probably dread this l8er) coz if we didn't have him Harry would pretty much like all the teachers
Kat121278
I love Snape! And I reckon he will be a major ally to Harry later on, in the final battle with Voldemort.
Also with respect to Sirius, he was a bully to Snape when they were kids and good guy now or not , all bullying is wrong.
Aimz Radcliffe
yeah but like snape shouldn't take his anger out on Harry just coz he h8ed james..
Orli'sElf7
thats perfectly true!!! thats not fair to harry with all the sh*t hes going through. oh ps- i didnt know snape was the angel from the movie dogma!!!! thats so wierd...hes bloody evil in this movie and hes pretty cool in the other one
Aimz Radcliffe
is he really? wierd! Yeah i mean Snape should no how much poor Harry going through...it's not easy 4 him 2 save every1 from voldermort...stupid snape...
Orli'sElf7
snape dwells to much on the past.. tru harry is alot like his father, but he isnt and snape should b able to see that and b a lil nicer about some of the stuff he says considering he is in the order and hes known everything harrys been through...he doesnt understand tho cuz hes stupid and mean : (...
Aimz Radcliffe
lol your sigs kewl
and bout snape...he shoud treat harry nicer coz he goes through sooo much..god snape is shelfish
Ezkamo
i sort of agree (that didnt make sence did it?!)....well i mean...like...um...how can i put this..snape acts like a dickhead..but i guess, he sort of has to otherwise the book wont be as good, but i think snape will return to our icckle Voldie!
Aimz Radcliffe
yea...i saw snape in the other movie...it was wierd him playin a good guy, he's a mashson.....:yip:
Ezkamo
a what? wats a mashson?
bLooMiLiCioUs
when i read tt pt, at first i din believe he'd died,i hadta read those last few sentences again n again, then it struck me, n i started bawlin (btw, this was 3 am the nite it was released,i'd stayed up to read it,heh heh)
n i slammed the bk down n cried n cried n cursed jk rowling 4 like 1/2 an hr...used up a whole box of tissues....i want him BACK!!!!!
Aimz Radcliffe
?8marshon* was wat i was ment 2 say...and same here
~fuoco~
same here, luv!!! I didnt believe it at first then i re-read it over and over n then i started to cry at like 2 am!!!
sadge
i dont care about him being harrys only relative i really miss sirius
Aimz Radcliffe
well i care 4 harry 2...come bak sirius :sad:
CandyKoRn
Isn't this thread a spoiler in itself?
Aimz Radcliffe
yeah i guess but well most ppl have read the book
Joy2dWorld
hey i know there are lots of other threads on him in the past but i think this matter about him deserves another one - new one!
i read book 5 again & found more clues that he's coming back! dont know why i never saw them b4! they're mostly on the last part of the book during Harry's chat with Luna & Nearly Headless Nick.
I dont have the book with me now but the clues were laid out as something like these:
1) Talking to Harry about her mother who passed away when she was 9yrs old, Luna says:
"ITS NOT LIKE I WONT SEE HER AGAIN RIGHT? Oh come on Harry, you heard them too didnt you? the voices behind the archway! they're keeping themselves from being seen, but they're just there.. behind the veil."
2) Luna was looking for her things - which she lost - were hidden away from her by the other students - she says:
"i'll just wait for them to turn up again. eventually they always do in the end. its just that i wanted to pack tonight."
I take this as a clue to Sirius' return bcoz he was a topic in this same conversation - and Harry LOST HIM - so maybe he's not really gone but was just hidden away from him by "some others" & he'll turn up eventually in the end - but Harry must be patient - wait for it.
3) Nearly Headless Nick says:
"I dont understand the mysteries of death too bcoz I chose a different path. but there is a room at the Department of Mysteries where the great wizards study it.."
he's referring to that "veil room" which Dumbledore (talking to Fudge) referred to as the "Chamber of Death"- where Sirius disappeared.
sauron
and the prof hes comeing back is where..lol im sorry but i believe he is gone forever......and if harrys ever gonna talk to him again its through that mirror
Phoenix
I may be lenient to this thread for a bit....
because I mourn for Sirius...
Joy2dWorld
Furthermore.. let's unravel the mysteries of the Department of Mysteries..
There were around a dozen doors that Harry & friends saw, only 5 of which they encountered - these seem to represent LIFE'S GREATEST MYSTERIES.
The 1st door -- is the one where they came in & out of.
The 2nd door -- had the floating "brains" - seems to me that this would refer to "How the Human Mind Works" - which is a mystery.
The 3rd door -- had the archway with the veil - its the "veil room" where the battle among the members of the Order & the Death Eaters took place - where Sirius disappeared - and which Dumbledore later referred to as "the Chamber of Death" - Death again is one of life's mysteries.
The 4th door -- could not be opened! -- this might be the room Dumbledore is referring to when he told Harry "there is a room at the Department of Mysteries which is locked at all times, which contains a force greater than.. blah blah blah -I'll just come back later to articulate it- This could be the room of the greatest mystery of all - Love!
The 5th door -- contained the prophecies, time-turners (hourglasses), planets - it probably refers to - destiny or time or past/present/future - the Chamber of Time & Space - another mystery.
Joy2dWorld
if you're referring to clue #3 - the Nearly Headless Nick clue--
it means that if that ghost said he thinks that Sirius is not coming back - well, you might as well ignore it! he doesnt know what he's talking about bcoz - HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE MYSTERIES OF DEATH - as he said!
well, i'm willing to bet on this -- but it might not happen til book 7.
danis4ever
Wow! You really are great! You are really keeping my hopes alive!
Well, as i read your messages, it really kept me a while to think about it,
and well, i believe you!
But tell me how many times have you read the book 5 and not noticed it before?!
You must a hidden eye or something, you are really great!
sauron
i dont see where the proof is, sirius is dead, hes not comeing back, if he could get out of the veil, wouldnt he have done it straight away seeing as his godson was in a room with death eaters wanting to kill him
danis4ever
am, i am a little cunfused, but sauron, you have a point in there!
Candy
hey, that a good reasons, but i dont think he'll comeback... that's not mlike joanne.
yeah, the rooms... ya thoght good, i think the brains stand for intelligence....
planets is room/universe, the clock room present, the propheerrcy room future, the one with the veil death, the one they came.... a normal room or probably past... dunno why....
and the ever locked room... life/love, i would probably say mothers love, something tom marvolo riddle never felt....
danis4ever
Hmmm, well we just have to wait for the book 6.
Any ideas when will it come out?
FallenForever
you have some really good points. i really hope you're right and that he comes back!
Rachel Riddle
i don't think sirius will be back (this is by the way the hardest thing to say for me...)
well, he has no point being alive at the moment, cuz he is searched as a mass murderer from the misistry. he has just no use and that would torture him! now, he's with his best friend again and i hope he is happy ther, if that's possible!
*crycrycry*
RIP sirius
raven guardia
I'm not sure what will happen....you all have good points, I just hope sirius comes back (I cryed when he died). but what ever J.K. Rowling decides to write, I'm sure the story will turn out great
you are always in our thoughts sirius
Rachel Riddle
i cried as well!
i'm still all depressed!
after..hmm..lets say ca. 4 weeks, i felt better, but i still get all mixed up if i think about him!
LOVEEEE him!
i hope as well, he'ss coming back, but i think it is kind of selfish, because it was probably best, and he died the way he would wanted to....
RIP sirius, never forget you!
Candy
coze, i cried too
it was sooooo sad =(
but it was the ebst for him, now he's with lily and james, too. and remus will die anytime, too....
and who says being dead is horrible?
FallenForever
o i cried too of course. i thought it was even sadder when u saw harry's reaction to his death tho. in dumbledores office. poor harry poor sirius!!!!
Rachel Riddle
yeah, =), although i didn't feel so much for harry, than for me
, but it was real pleasure dor me to sdee hary destroying dumbledores office, cuz i guess, thats what i've done...
Joy2dWorld
guys, when I said that Sirius will be back, it is NOT necessarily as he was b4! he may be a ghost or one of those paintings or whatever comes up in JKR's imagination - but the point is he's gonna be back according to clues embedded in Harry's chat with Luna & Nearly Headless Nick!
remember that only Luna heard the voices behind the veil aside from Harry, the same way that only the 2 of them sees thestrals. remember also that in book 2 or 3 or 4, a clue was implanted about these thestrals - the one where Harry was thinking & wondering what made those wagons - the ones that took students from the Hogwarts Express train to the castle - move! which was answered only in book 5 with the introduction of Luna's character.
this could be it too, since Harry "hurled the mirror into his trunk where it shattered" - meaning the broken pieces of the 2-way mirror are still at the bottom of his trunk - he didnt throw it away! all he needs to do is say "REPARO!" to put it back together!
^O^ BTW - Thank you Phoenix!
for allowing this new thread! ^O^
szhismine
^ yes, but Sirius has to have the other mirror with him. he didn't.
i would like to believe Sirius can and will come back. i cried when he died.
he shouldn't have died. i think a part of me is still mourning. but there's not much proof that he will.
then again, we must remember that this is Harry Potter we're talking about. they have dragons and witchcraft and veils that have dead people behind them. so, you never know... in fantasy worlds, anything can happen.
the only way Sirius will be able to come back is if he's not really dead. something i doubt immensely, 'cause there are dead people behind the veil. apparently you die when you simply go through it. and we all know he went through it.
but maybe he'll find a way to get out of the veil and go back? but then, if he does will he still be dead or a ghost or will he be alive?
i really pitied Harry in the book. his 5th year was horrid!! but i am an angst fan, and i like it when my fave characters are hurt physically or mentally. and Harry is my fave character.
but Order of the Phoenix tortured him a bit too much, methink.
still, it'll be cool to see on screen!! if Daniel Radcliffe is Harry again for the 5th, i would love to see how well he can play Harry's emotional trauma throughout the movie.
Phoenix
oooh! painting! I never thought of that! That's really good, I bet thats what it'll be
szhismine
for Sirius to come back as a painting someone has to actually paint him.
and if he's painted how do we know he'll be "alive", in the sense he can talk and walk through other portraits? and will the painting of Sirius have Sirius' personality?
how does that work anyway? i don't think you just paint someone and they come to life. there has to be a spell or something.
i have nothing against Sirius coming back, but how will he come back? what form will he be in? what will he do? will he be dead or alive?
*sigh* wishful thinking...
Phoenix
there would be paintings already, I would assume. Berhaps at Grimmauld Place, they have been banished to the loft or something
Joy2dWorld
OK then, how about the clue in book 3?
Remember when Harry's patronus drove away about a hundred dementors - he told Dumbledore he thought he saw his father James as the one who produced it, but realized it was him, using the time-turner - Dumbledore said this..
"You think the dead we loved ever truly leave us? You think that we don't recall them more clearly than ever in times of great trouble? Your father is alive in you, Harry, and shows himself most plainly when you have need of him. How else could you produce that particular Patronus? Prongs rode again last night."
Surely, one way or another, Sirius will show himself again to Harry in his time of great need!
Darth Revan
I WILL FLOOD JKR WITH ANGRY LETTERS IF YOU ARE WRONG YOU BETTER BE RIGHT ABOUT HIM COMING BACK
VanHRH
I just finish reading book 5 (for the 4th time....lol) 3 hours ago will i was health class and now that i think about it...sirius WILL come back. and im not only saying that because i feel better just at the tought of it (i hate that he had to die...
...but because J.K actully does hint towards him comming back in certain parts in the chapter after his death. i mean for those of us who has combed through the book everytime they re-read it....u always find a new fact or clue u didnt see before and i found a couple while i was in class! Face it people....our man Sirius is comming back in some shape or form of another.....and the points u make also and up to that theory.
Trickster
I think some of you are reading too much into the talk at the end. The bit with Luna I mean, I think thats just calculated to make people feel sorry for her. And Harry, so he makes people nicer to her next year, and she becomes one of his allies.
Trickster
Oh yeah. Sirius WILL come back in one form or another Maybe not till the very end of book 7 though.
Red_Drake
I don't think JK would really make a person such as sirius disapear like that, but harry was kinda stupid too, if there was time-turners in one of the rooms, why didn't he used it to turn back time and save sirius? (Any explanation will do)
Trickster
Cos he is a fool. With a lack of comon sense.
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