Carnage Comics

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SuperNova
Hey does anyone know how many comics Carnage is in? I dont have many, and im a huge fan of anyone with a symbiyote... Except for the gay female Venoms and peter parkers daughter's symbioyote. But anyways, anyone know? He was pretty popular at the beggining but then got died down.

SuperNova
Is it just me, or do I always seem to post crappy threads...

venomfan
you should read Carnage:mindboom and :its a wonderfull life but youll probably have to order them. i think hes in about 50 comics total but this is the best

SuperNova
Yea? I always liked the way Carnage looked, Hes like a red devil dude. But of course the old venom looks sweet to, the one in your current sig Venomfan, with his nasty tongue and like shiney body and like insect head.

venomfan
yeah it really depends on the artist i have seen both look like crap, but the two actual Carnage specific comics its very graphic and well done. and venom:run is way better drawn than Venom:shiver yah this is the venom i thought always looked best. ripped and evil lookin

Spawnie
Wow, cover looks amazing, I never saw it till now. Very mean looking Venom, allthough I don't know if Carnage and Venom r the same thing?
So, don't blame me for my ignorance, I just never had the chance to read about it all. The subject here is very appealing and I hope that, if he got his own comic, that at at least they make it interesting.
I, for example, love the Witchblade and Darkness comic. The crossover was really good and at that time Darkness was intwined with the Witchblade story. I thought of Darkness as a secondary character, and I got to love it. Finally they make him his own comic and the story doesn't go on for too long, so he gets killed. I hope that Carnage will get better attention.

I hope u guys got to at least look at some issues of Darkness, cuz the story was really cool.

Jackie Estacodo - aka Darkness - at the age of 21 I think gets his hereditary power Darkness. He got it from his daddy that he never knew about. To his knowledge he was just adopted by the mafia boss. He was trained to be an assasin from joung age, and he has killed many ppl already. He is young, handsome and with longer black hair. He has different girls almost every night, but he only prefers models. Well to cut it short he was kinda bommed when he started to vomit this black ooze. Then darkness just took him. The power is almost unbeatable in the dark, wherever there is dark he can use it. Only sun light and the light from the Angelus can oppose it. The guy gets a cool full body kina armour (more like ripped suit). I'm sorry that I don't have anything scanned right now. Well the most cool part about his power is that he gets his little minions aka Darklings. LIttle hellish creatures that have a very noire sense of humour. They r the reflection of a sick side of the masters mind. This guy gets to fight with Witchblade and Lara Croft recently. The comic has great graphics and great babes big grin.

Linkalicious
i dunno how many comics carnage is in, but i have the whole Maximum Carnage series and it's a comic book masterpiece. Right up their with Batman's sword of azriel and the death of superman. I'm not too down with modern comics now days, but if anyone knows of any series involving Venom and Carnage please post about it so i can't continue to expand my less than vast comic book selection.

HockeyFace
Go to samruby.com buddy. Then go to villains followed by Canage and you will find out all the comics he has appeared in. Also if you like symbiotes in comics I suggest you get What If? #44 and Web Of Spider-man 30th Anniversary issue. What If? #44 features a story that has the symbiote costume bonding with The Punisher instead of Eddie Brock and thereby making a real symbiote killing machine. In Web of there is Venom-Galactus. Although I do not know the issues to which he appeared they was also a Spider-Carnage story where Carnage bonded with Ben Reilly to make Spider-Carnage.

venomfan
yeah but the coolest what if venom is Venom-gambit

Linkalicious
Best What if? was when the Silver Surfer obtained the Infinity Guantlet. Man i love What If? comics because they put on paper the wacky things guys like us think up...

venomfan
yah, what if captain britan fought the Juggernaut was my favorite! lol

Spawnie
The thing is that Spawn's suit is a symbiote also, and the suit got his own story too big grin. It was the Blood Feud series, composed by 4 issues. It's not the same as Venom but has some common points. I'm not really surprised cuz McFarlane worked on Spiderman a bit I think.

Oh yeah I forgot, the last Venom pic posted has an M shape across his chest area. Well it's almost like the one on Spawn. Spawn has that one cuz of the Malebolgia signiture.

venomfan
yeah it does remind me of spawn, but like you said he already has a symbiote(not like venoms of course) and he has green energy, ill check out that darkness serie's.but i really recomend run, i have the first 2 and am looking for the third, it is about the symbiote and wolverine..thats all i know. it also sucks that Ben Reily died he was cool.

Spawnie
I'm tellin u man they do that on purpose, and they will somehow bring him to life. Same thing happend to Darkness. I hated it when they killed Darkness, I was really pissed off. I really got to like the guy and then they kill him, actually he sacrifices himself in a way. The after stories r hard to find for me, but I saw that they brought him back to life to be in a crossover with Lara Croft. The same thing will happen to your hero. As they said Darkness is a guy that u got to love to hate. I think that Ben is the same way.

venomfan
oh yeah, nobody cared about scarlet spider tell he died then they got a crap load of pissed off fan mail, serves em right...bastards thought about killing eddie brock.

Darth Vicious
I think one of the best if not the best Carnage story was in the Spider-Man comics called Maximum Carnage in which he went in a killing spree and only the combined efforts of Spider-Man, Venom and other heroes was the only way to Stop him!

SuperNova
Hmmm

venomfan
yeah maximum was the best, but i like Carnage unleashed just cause its venom and carnage 1 on 1

Spawnie
Ok, It's time that u guys explain a bit wich is the difference between Carnage and Venom.

venomfan
ok Carnage posses's all of venom abilities and is stronger than him and spiderman put together, he can also create axes(t-1000 kinda) and swing them of even throw them at things. both posses the abilitie to dampen spider sense, and Venom can actually track Carnage due to his symbiote being the parent. both are weak to fire and sonic's.
venom is weaker to sonics than carnage
carnage is weaker to fire than venom
they can both use the symbiote to camoflage them selves to appear as anyone they can imaigine. venom was bonded to eddie, but Cletus was fused to Carnage it was in his blood and had to be extracted(planet of the symbiotes) it got lose and venom obsorbed it.(cletus did get a new one) somthin happend to venoms symbiote when he fought the juggernaut, a minor change. as of right now Carnage is imprissoned in ravencroft, and eddie brock is in hiding, his symbiote is in alaska
if you wanna learn more about carnage read Carnage:mindbomb and its a wonderfull life, they are about why he is crazy.
for Venom read run(i recomend it)it is about the symbiote on a killing spree and runs into wolverine

Spawnie
Woha, pretty nice story. Really nice and original I think these stories will continue big grin

badkittykitty
Maximum carnage is all I have also...but it one of best series I ever owned(I dont even collect spiderman,but this was to amazing to ignore .lol!)

Linkalicious
i think they should make an adult comic of carnage where it's all dark n spooky. And he kills a lot of innocent people. Then Venom should come in (even darker) and kick the crap outta him.

and nice pick in the memberz pic section kitty....you're really pretty.

venomfan
they do there drawn very well but are difficult to find
there called Carnage:mindbomb, and Carnage:its a wonderfull life
they are very graphic and delve into cletus's psyhce were lots of brutal images, and even a dream battle against spidey

here is a review of mindbomb
Several pages provide, in truly graphic details, a visual representation of the inside of Carnage's mind. Just as Kurtz believes he might be on the verge of a breakthrough, Kasady rejoins with his symbiote. Instead of killing Kurtz, he keeps him alive, screws a tendril into his brain (this would make a great Excedrin commercial) and begins to "squirt bits of my mind into yours, show you what I think of the world." Through this, Carnage drags Kurtz down into the darkness with him.

My first reaction upon reading this book was disgust. The pictures are incredibly graphic, and the subject matter gruesome. Later on, I took another look and was forced to change my opinion. "Mind Bomb" is not a mindless gore-fest. In fact, it is really, really good. Artist Kyle Hotz draws Ravencroft in such a gothic fashion that you KNOW something wicked this way comes.

Hotz draws Carnage's world view in a very effective manner, such as the little Carnage mouths writhing out of Kasady's brain and Cletus as a kid holding twin butcher knives with a maniacal grin. The thing that really impressed me, however, was the writing. I've never heard of Warren Ellis before, but he is definitely good. He creates such a dark tone, not just with his take on Carnage, but with the way every character is presented, that redemption seems impossible. The reader instinctively knows that Kurtz will fail.

Carnage's philosophy is presented so effectively that it scared the heck out of me. In Carnage's previous appearances, he comes off as a cardboard figure, not really three-dimensional. In "Mind Bomb", you get a glimpse into his inner workings.

venomfan
here is the other

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