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I have read that Legolas was sent by his father to rivendell in the year 3019. is this in the future?

No it's about 10000 years ago. it was 3018 (not 19) of the Third Age, we live in the Seventh Age at the moment

wow how do u know that!

Tolkien writes it in one of his letters (this seventh-age-thing)

But don't get confused between those dates and those of the Shire Calendar!! I go by the Shire Reckoning, because...well, I do

wow! ha ha.
I belong in the third age! ha ha

i dont like seventh age

i want to go back and fight hoplessly against morgoth, i like it when theres no hope and you have to do amazingly risky things

I do too! Hahaha.

exactly my opinion ^^ thats why I like melkor so much

because hes big and beastly

bloody interfering valar

melkor

You definately wouldn't be saying that if he was stood in front of you.

he is so beastly and strong, and sexy...well not s sexy but you know http://stonia.ttu.ee/gallery/tolk-morgoth.jpg

http://img-fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/krueger/morgoth.jpg

BIG BIG BIG picture that one

Yep, definitely big big big picture Very cool though.

I love the second picture... havent seen this anywhere yet... where is it from?

isnt the other one by Nasmith?
He doesnt look really cool there... too little gothic points and lines which really suit him

I do too and be reuinited with my Witch King.

http://stonia.ttu.ee/gallery/

has pics like

Smaug over Esgaroth

http://stonia.ttu.ee/gallery/tolk-smaug.jpg

frodo and nazgul
http://stonia.ttu.ee/gallery/tolk-ford.jpg

needless to say its in my favourites

Hey Sauron, isn't Esgaroth, Lake Town? I forgot. Cool pics!!
but why does Asfaloth look so small?

hmmmm, hes up against a nazgul mordor horse?

Well......Frodo's a hobbit c'mon! He looks like a big regular man on Asfaloth....

Arent they both made by Howe?

`Perfect artist

I'm anot a big fan of Alan Lee but I really like John Howe because Howe goes for more action. Alan Lee does for settling pictures with alot of detail, I think they used more of Lee's work for the designs but used Howe's works for action sequences.

lol i read somewhere that when they were sketching the shire howe got bored and drew hobbits attacking each other

rofl, hahhahahahah, yeah I heard of that, it's hilarious.

also after that it read pj wanted to put it on the dvd to show people because ot was hilarious, but it was rather gory lol

Haahahahahahaha

That's true, Howe always has enourmous energy and movement in his drawings even if there is no real movement

That's basically what I said.

how many years are there in an age?

a possibility is that they end after a significant event

age one, morgoths banishment
age two, war of the ring, sauron defeated.....or is he
age three, ... no hes not sauron defeated again, elrond leaves middle earth

although i have heard that said i dont really believe it too much, im not sure if there is a set number on the length of an age oh exa?

There is no specific Length of and Age of the Sun (which first, second, third and so on are); first a little less than 600 years(583?), second age 3441 years, third... errh... 3021 years.

But before the rising of the sun, time was counted in the Ages Of Valinor, which had a specific length... one takes 100 Valian Years, but one is as long as about 10 years of the sun, thus the actual length of all 35 valinorean ages together is about 33537 years of the sun

well then sepetmber 11th was a huge event, lets live in the eighth age and make it a lotr one YEY

well done


33537 years, i would get VERY bored in that time i couldnt do it

Important, yes, but not the way important that used to start new ages... we would have to kill some dark lord or something

The last important thing was 2000 years ago possible that either the 6th or the 7th age started there.

the worst thing to happen in living memory was the holocaust i think,

oh I want to see them. I wish they had more of John and Alan working on the set. It is facinating to see them work.

I believe that PJ will put out more special features eventually. I hope!!

I dont think it sould really be a bad thing to end an age... rather something happy (ok melkors defeat is not happy but well...)

trying to say my defeat is exa

Didnt want to say that I think you know that

The only happy thing is the leaving of Elrond ^^
though not for the elves of Valinor

yeah poor elves of valinor

"i see smith in the distance"

"MR ringbearer, welcome to valinor"

*neo pops round the corner*

*big assed fight scene*

manwe: I DO NOT CONDONE VIOLENCE ON MY ISLE

*elrond is then banished and must return to middle earth.... middle earth then gets confused and wonders if it should go back into the third age seeing as elrond never left....*

Im just wondering what the hell Morgoth did all the time out there in the void... watching the others crawling over the earth? playing cards? watching tv?

there is no life in the void

only death



but hes not dead so thats a lie lol i can think of 'some' things he probably got up too, but seeing as this is a pg 13 thread il not utter them

do you think manwe sends him food, i hope so lol or if every so often he sends him a bigger more challenging rubix cube

I think not.. poor morgoth

errr ok bit offtopic

oh come on exa im ALWAYS off topic and normally i take you with me so just enjoy the ride

Ok fine
The problem is just that I hate being offtop

id have thought youd have been used to it seeing as me and kit seems experts in changing the convo round.....such as me somehow changing a thread into haldir commiting suicide lol

Yes but if I have to answer it... dunno how to say... well I dun like it
But however lets go on... what did we just say before?

Well, subject was long ago dealt with... closing.