Inglourious Basterds

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Myth
Does anybody know anything about this movie? I'd sure loved to hear an update.

Last I heard (couple months ago):
Set for a 2005 release, made by Quentin himself, rumored stars include Madsen (Mr. Blonde) and Adam Sandler, and it is a war movie (WW2?)

Many may fear the Sandler part but if casted, QT could write a great sarcastic character for Sandler.

SilverFighter
Inglorious Bastards might be release in May, 2004, Cannes Film Festival (not very likely I'm not too sure). As for the cast Sandler is very likely to be in it (which I'm not too thrill about it). The official website is still under construction so nothing official yet.

So far QT has said:

"When I eventually make my World War II movie, Inglorious Bastards, it will use Robert Aldrich's The Dirty Dozen and a lot of those late-'60s/early-'70s epic war movies as a starting-off point - pictures like Where Eagles Dare. More so even than Kill Bill , it will be my true spaghetti Western-influenced film, but set in Nazi-occupied France instead of the Old West. I see it as a time when you had these no-man's lands in Europe that really did resemble the Western landscapes of Sergio Leone (director of the Clint Eastwood 'Dollars' trilogy)."

Synopsis: During the time of WWII, U.S. soldiers who are about to be executed, are offered a chance at reprieve. Despite some rumors, this film is not a remake of the 1977 Bo Svenson movie also titled Inglorious Bastards (that particular movie was also known as Counterfeit Commandos, Deadly Mission, G.I. Bro, and Hell's Heroes).

Myth
QT I believe took the title "Inglorious Bastards" from the the 1977 movie but you are correct, it is not a remake. It may be May 2005 but there is no way he can get it in 4 months (Kill Bill 2 comes out in April).

plenTpak52
No, Kill Bill Vol. 2 comes out February 22. Not in April

EDIT: WHAT THE ****??? IT IS APRIL!!!! IT USED TO BE FEB 22!!!!!!!!! Now that is just unfair

plenTpak52
I am sooooooo pissed off. First time back to the forum for months and I get bitchslapped with bad news

Myth
I reacted the same way when I found out.
Kill Bill: Volume 2 - April 16
and to top it off, Volume 1 (DVD) - April 13

BUT GOOD NEWS! Samuel L. Jackson himself has a cameo in Volume 2. HooRAY!

Kes
He was in Vol.1 too. He was the pianist at the wedding.Obviously he does nothing (in vol.1)

Myth
He was? Now I need Volume 1 on DVD sooner so I can find that part. DAMN THEM FOR PUSHING THEM BACK!

plenTpak52
Dude this is so gay

SilverFighter
Samuel L. Jackson was in Vol.1 but we only see him laying down. Samuel had a short part in Vol.1 but it was edited because of the length of the movie. The dvd version might show it.

UncleWalter
Sam Jackson is the organ player in the wedding (kick ass!).
"they even shot the ol' colored guy who played the organ"
He'll have a more prominant role in Kill Bill Vol. 2 when they wedding is shown. He's on the roster at quicktime . com and imdb .com

WindDancer
He is most likely to be either the first or the last person that get's kill in the church. For some reason I think he will kill someone before he hits the floor.

Cowboyography
Has anyone scene the dirty dozen????? this is the dirty dozen what a rip off, i guesse sandler will play Telly Sevalis. he better mix it up

Cinemaddiction
What work of Quentin's isn't a ripoff? roll eyes (sarcastic)

Myth
None of his movies are like anybody elses movies so I don't think he ever "rips them off." But he does pay respects to films he does like by making references to them.

badkittykitty
I wouldnt call climbing others work to make something better a ripoff...

"If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."
- Isaac Newton, 1676

QT may have used others ideas,but he made them grander and his own.

Cinemaddiction
Well, I never meant to come in here and rip into him or his work, but this is a segment of a reply to Foxota5 over in the "Greatest Movies of All Time" thread.



I mean, say what you want, but all the evidence is right there.

Hey, but that said, I'll probably go see this one, just because it's a war movie. stick out tongue

amlap
still a great director and hes awesome with dialogue.

and i think that going into different genres of film with def boost his crediblity since right now he only makes gangster tpye movies.

Cinemaddiction
What dialogue, using the "F" word, describing how someones vagina is like Bubble Yum? I don't get it. He just exploits bad dialogue even worse.

amlap
can you not say that some of his monologues are classic? i find that some of his conversations in his scripts are way complexed yet very collected. writting east flowing natural dialogue is not always an easy thing to you, but to do it well like quentin is impressive.

Cinemaddiction
It gets lost in the trash talk, to me anyway, and it seems to me that dialogue, in the end, is the only thing original about movies. Everyone else clams up about his "originality" when I lay the hammer down and show where his "ideas" for his movies coem from.

WindDancer
Maybe you are confusing "ripoff" with "inspiration".

amlap
he adds alot to the table i think for people who arent really comfortable with their ablity to write. he is a self taught film maker. instead of spending thousands of dollars for the proper education he taught himself the one best way anyone could teach themself and that is by watching classic movies. he adds his own twists and ideas into these films. this is a guy who is writting and making movies that he enjoy! to me thats inspiring, because the guy is doing what he loves and is doing it his way. he doesnt so much rip off other ideas but pays tribute to his classic movies because the guy is in love with film. shit havent you ever wanted to pay tribute to something you like.

plus he is only 12 years into the business. his name is credited for at least a dozen movies! 12 years is not a long time to give yourself the name of one like kubrick, hitchcock, or burton. the reason that he gets alot of shit is that he came into hollywood with a great first movie now everyone is expecting a huge ****ing amazing move to follow. yes he mainly writes about violence and and thiefs and such but that is what he is good at! but that doesnt mean that he wont one day break away from that genre (example the war movie). plus if hes good at something that he enjoys doing, then why the **** stop?

and if your talking bout him being unoriginal with his stories then wht about kubrick? jsut about every kubrick movie is based off a novel. shit just bout every movie now-a-days is first a novel. most of quentin stories were either told by novels or by other films, but whats the difference really. so your saying that since he is taking ideas from another movie that hes ripping it? well then you can put the same name on anyother director do looks to books for a story or a shot! and if your again he in a way is giving tribute to old movies and bringing some of the classic stories bakc that we have all heard before but with a new light behind them.

one thing you have to take in to consideration is that his movies are about theifs and killers! they are repersented as the hero in the movie but what they do as a job and their personalities are still represented with crime. if anyother movie represents thiefs and killers with bad language then why cant a movie based around them be? plus cursing is a very strong emotional release. when some one say shut up it jsut doesnt have the same effect as shut the **** up! when wrting a script the writer needs to take dialogue to a super natural level of extreme situation but still make it able to be related with the audience. and using strong laungue like f.u.c.k is something that every human is familiar with and when used in a sentence like, shut the **** up, people realize the emtion and the meaning the character is putting behind his words.

and if anything that i find amazing about quentin is that he is writting his stories with most characters in his movies related with another in his other movies. he is making a community of characters so that his movies in a way all relate and tie in together. and i dont know of anyone director who has done such a thing.

Samas-adian
Well, if you look at the premises of his movies, their about hitman, robbers, and criminals. So, is it not realistic to have bad langage because i have feeling lower end criminals dont use words like please or have perfect grammer.
And people usually talk about things that have nothing to do with thier actions. Its called conversation. Thats why he's good. And most movies these day's have already done ideas behind them. But it doesn't mean that the film-making behind them isnt.

sarahvma
Any guy with a Scary Movie 3 sig has no right to bash Tarantino. Besides - the point of his dialogue is not that it's super smart or witty or refined - it's that it's real. And no one does real anymore.

sarahvma
And as for the ripoff comment... look: he never denies the fact that he likes to borrow. What writer, director or producer doesn't borrow? I mean, that jumpsuit the bride wears is right out of a Bruce Lee movie... A ripoff is when someone borrows but in such a way that they think they're clevarly disguising that fact. That is a ripoff. Tarantino just pays small hommages to the movies he loves.

WrathfulDwarf
Tarantino finally gets his German chick.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/va/20080902/122034522500.html

Hurry up QT! I want to see some Nazis getting splatter all over the floor already!

ragesRemorse
I've never understood the side of the argument in saying that QT is a rip off artist.

KK the Great
Originally posted by Cory Chaos
Well, I never meant to come in here and rip into him or his work, but this is a segment of a reply to Foxota5 over in the "Greatest Movies of All Time" thread.

I mean, say what you want, but all the evidence is right there.

Hey, but that said, I'll probably go see this one, just because it's a war movie. stick out tongue

Have you ever actually seen City on Fire?

Make a list of the traits that made Reservoir Dogs so popular. Use bullet points, listing all of the things that people mention when they talk about the movie. All the things that made it stand out among typical Hollywood fare.

Now list all of the things it has in common with City on Fire.

Compare the lists and I bet you'll find that the only item which appears on both lists is the Mexican stand-off. The rest of the second list will be a bunch of bare plot points of a by-the-numbers heist story.

But did you ever hear someone rave about Reservoir Dogs because of the plot?

SnakeEyes
I'm extremely excited about Inglorious Bastards, even though close to nothing is known about the film (besides some cast members/the general plot). There's something about Tarantino+Pitt+WWII that just gets me kinda pumped.

SnakeEyes
Two new photos: http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/12/11/inglourious-basterds-two-new-photos/#comments

Also, the official spelling of the film's title is "Inglourious Basterds."

Impediment
Thank you for using the search function, SnakeEyes. You're one of the few.

Fixed the title.

SnakeEyes
Don't mention it, I hate duplicates!

SnakeEyes
Teaser Trailer: http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/02/11/inglourious-basterds-teaser-trailer/#more-19651

"And I want my scalps!"

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Teaser Trailer: http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/02/11/inglourious-basterds-teaser-trailer/#more-19651

"And I want my scalps!"

Oh hell, my vagina just leaked a little bit

Thanks for sharing the trailer. That looks absolutely badass.

Kazenji
Did anyone see some of the comments on that link



What the hell is the old one called ?

SnakeEyes
The title pays homage to a 1978 Italian film, Quel maledetto treno blindato (literally translated as That damned armored train and released as Inglorious Bastards in the USA). The premise is partially similar, but that guy's being pretty dumb, because Tarantino's "Basterds" is going to be far different. He was merely inspired by this film (among others, like The Dirty Dozen).

In a nutshell: Don't be alarmed, this will still very much be a Tarantino film, not a remake, etc.

Kazenji
Some stupid family group over my way is complaining about this movie how it should be banned because he's gone too far with it.

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by Kazenji
Some stupid family group over my way is complaining about this movie how it should be banned because he's gone too far with it.

REALLY?...,Really?, Zack and miri make a porno, Now this? Oh well, big T always get's this kind of publicity and it always works out for him.

Now i just want to see it more Happy Dance confused

Kazenji
Here it is here

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25087289-664,00.html

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by Kazenji
Here it is here

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25087289-664,00.html

Seriously, i have lost all hope in humanity. I now have the desire to go smash me a bag full of babies. At least that way, I will know that i have saved a bag full of souls form becoming assholes and keeping good movies from eyes just because they don't have a sense of fuking humor. SMASHIN BABIES!!!! SMASHIN BABIES!!!!! mad mad

Kazenji
I like the part about the jewish community, no doubt they'll most likey like it with it having jewish characters killing nazi's.

jinXed by JaNx
These Bible thumpin pricks haven't even SEEN the movie. Christ, yet they are assuming that because Brad Pitt is in it, The movie is going to attract a crowd of young people and thus, starting a new Hitler uprising. There will be fire in the streets, bodies flung out of windows, babies shot for screaming and your snickers bar will most assuredly will be stepped on if you watch this movie.

If you're going to critique the movie for not reflecting reality, you should at least understand that the movie is entirely fiction before making such an asinine statement.

Master Crimzon
I hate right-wing family groups like this one. All they genuinely are is a bunch of glorified fascistic censors. "I'm morally opposed to the film! It must be banned!". You're morally opposed to it? Don't watch it, and don't let your kids watch it. But you have no right to tell other people what to say and what to release based on your own moral values.

Really, you know these people aren't doing it to 'protect the children', right? Like the MPAA indirectly does, these people are attempting to control what the adult populace can see. They probably read the script and got horrified, and then decided it will help the world if they ban it.

Kovacs86
"Speaking over a sinister rock soundtrack..."

That was actually pretty funny.

Toku King
I'm sorry, but "Inglorious Bastards" looks absolutely awful. Is this a comedy or something? I'm not insulting it, I'm being serious. Hopefully, it's a spoof film or something, because if Tarantino's serious, his career's failing faster than you can say "Frank Miller".

Ya Krunk'd Floo
The trailer looks crap. Tarantino lost it long ago.

Fist
I'm there. I thought Madsen was supposed to be in this flick?
Read Samuel Jackson will be in it as a narrator.

H. S. 6
Originally posted by Toku King
I'm sorry, but "Inglorious Bastards" looks absolutely awful. Is this a comedy or something? I'm not insulting it, I'm being serious. Hopefully, it's a spoof film or something, because if Tarantino's serious, his career's failing faster than you can say "Frank Miller".

It seems fairly obvious from the trailer that this is not a movie to take seriously. At least, that was the feeling I got.

Master Crimzon
Originally posted by Toku King
I'm sorry, but "Inglorious Bastards" looks absolutely awful. Is this a comedy or something? I'm not insulting it, I'm being serious. Hopefully, it's a spoof film or something, because if Tarantino's serious, his career's failing faster than you can say "Frank Miller".

Tarantino's movies are always post-modern black comedies. This looks to be no different. Kill Bill and Pulp Fiction also mix in aspects of the intentionally ridiculous.

Originally posted by Kovac86
"Speaking over a sinister rock soundtrack..."

That was actually pretty funny.

They're the kind of people who blame violence on music, video games, movies, TV. All so they don't have to change themselves and their failed behaviors.

SnakeEyes
This movie will be over-the-top, campy, action-packed and darkly comic. At least that's what I'm expecting.

MildPossession
Anyone know the music in the trailer? cheers.

Ya Krunk'd Floo
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Tarantino's movies are always post-modern black comedies. This looks to be no different. Kill Bill and Pulp Fiction also mix in aspects of the intentionally ridiculous.

Tarantino is no longer 'post-modern'. After being shown up as a one-trick pony, a more pertinent classification of his movies would be that they are derivative.

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by Toku King
I'm sorry, but "Inglorious Bastards" looks absolutely awful. Is this a comedy or something? I'm not insulting it, I'm being serious. Hopefully, it's a spoof film or something, because if Tarantino's serious, his career's failing faster than you can say "Frank Miller".

from the looks of the trailer it looks as though this movie is going to be heavily rooted in comedy, like all of his movie's.

queeq
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
This movie will be over-the-top, campy, action-packed and darkly comic. At least that's what I'm expecting.

The trailer made me worry... this is either gonna be hilarious, or some serious bad taste.

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by queeq
The trailer made me worry... this is either gonna be hilarious, or some serious bad taste.

sounds like every other Tarantino movie laughing out loud

Final Blaxican
It doesn't look all that great, imo. Maybe a rental.

queeq
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
sounds like every other Tarantino movie laughing out loud

Well, no. Most Tarantino movies (apart from Death Proof) took us somewhere we'd not been before. This is more like: let's slaughter because we gotta, with them evil nazis... If that is the basic premise, it may run a tad thin... I'll be seeing it, apart from Death Proof Tarantino's movies gave me great joy. But seriously, this has me worried.

Ya Krunk'd Floo
Thought it'd be shit, didn't I?

Seems like it is:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/may/20/cannes-film-festival-tarantino-inglourious-basterds

MildPossession
It will be a rental for me even thought I am a massive Tarantino fan, the last Tarantino film I saw at the cinema was Kill Bill Vol.2 and I adored it and the atmosphere of the cinema was one of best experiences of cinema viewing I have had, for both volumes.

But didn't bother with Deathproof, but that was more because we didn't get the full Grindhouse works with trailers and so on. I ended up really liking the second half of Deathproof even though it got blasted at Cannes the year it came out from what I remember.

But then Peter Bradshaw isn't a critic I take any notice of usually if he is the one I thinking of.

stick out tongue

jaden101
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Thought it'd be shit, didn't I?

Seems like it is:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/may/20/cannes-film-festival-tarantino-inglourious-basterds

I really wouldn't listen to the guardian.

Even if it is shit, I'll still go see it simply for the over-the-top violence.

killakyle
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
This movie will be over-the-top, campy, action-packed and darkly comic. At least that's what I'm expecting.

That's exactly what I'm looking forward to! Although I'm disappointed it's already getting bad reviews after Cannes.

SnakeEyes
Yeah, to be honest though, I don't expect this film to get the best reviews. Some of my favorite movies have gotten mediocre reviews.

For those who are looking forward to this, here are three clips from the movie: http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/05/19/three-inglourious-basterds-video-clips/#more-28773

Consider me more pumped. August should get here sooner.

backdoorman
Looking forward to watching this, didn't quite like Grindhouse but I do like all of his other films.

Originally posted by killakyle
That's exactly what I'm looking forward to! Although I'm disappointed it's already getting bad reviews after Cannes.
La Notte was practically booed off stage in Cannes. I say, the French lost it a long time ago.

Kazenji
Originally posted by jaden101
I really wouldn't listen to the guardian.



Not even TIME, saying its a misfire

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1898196_1898204_1899812,00.html?xid=rss-topstories

moses winston
I'm looking forward to this, it looks like a decent movie.

Though I doubt we see anything that matches up to the likes of Pulp Fiction or Jackie Brown, but this could be a very good movie.

MildPossession
He got an award for L'Eclisse(this got booed at Cannes apparently), when at Cannes Film Festival in 1962. Had won about three or four awards at various Cannes Film Festivals for different films. Some of the French do appreciate his films immensely.

Are you sure it was La Notte?

Kovacs86
The response from Cannes seems to be amazingly mixed, and I think slightly leaning towards the positive. Empire loved it...

http://www.empireonline.com/features/cannes2008/post.asp?id=537

Mr. Rhythmic
Originally posted by H. S. 6
It seems fairly obvious from the trailer that this is not a movie to take seriously. At least, that was the feeling I got.

Yeah, but even in that light it's unbelievably horrid.

Kovacs86
Not really. It's a work of fiction. It doesn't glorift Nazism, or genocide. It isn't going to cause child murder or torture or whatever. I see no reason to be offended or repulsed by this film. It's actually much less unpleasant than a lot of prestigious historical fiction.

MildPossession
Apparently Tarantino rushed the cut shown at Cannes so it would be at the festival in time. People are trying to persuade him to re edit parts and so on and take some more time for the official cinema release version.

backdoorman
Originally posted by MildPossession
He got an award for L'Eclisse(this got booed at Cannes apparently), when at Cannes Film Festival in 1962. Had won about three or four awards at various Cannes Film Festivals for different films. Some of the French do appreciate his films immensely.

Are you sure it was La Notte?
Perhaps it was L'avventura, dunno one of the trilogy. And I know Antonioni has gotten a lot of recognition from film festivals including Cannes, but I just meant that Cannes not responding well to the film doesn't necessarily mean the film itself is bad. The part about the French was a joke.

MildPossession

Kazenji
dOMKloOEKcU

Kazenji
Damn someone disabled the embedding

this way then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOMKloOEKcU& amp;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ekillermovies%2Ecom%2Ff
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WhoopeeDee
If I remember correctly the sex scene with Goebbels will be added.

That's worth a movie ticket for me.

Myth
I can't believe this comes out next month. I made this thread 5 and a half years ago.

Mr. Rhythmic
Originally posted by Kazenji
Damn someone disabled the embedding

this way then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOMKloOEKcU& amp;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ekillermovies%2Ecom%2Ff
orums%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Fthreadid%3D25160%26page
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...I'm having a really hard time seeing how people think this looks good.

SnakeEyes
Originally posted by Mr. Rhythmic
...I'm having a really hard time seeing how people think this looks good.

Then you're having the same reaction I had to you and everyone else who thought Transformers 2 was good.

I wouldn't expect you to be interested in this film.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Mr. Rhythmic
...I'm having a really hard time seeing how people think this looks good.

I find the anti-sematic things Hitler and his peeps did...very yucky. So, a movie like this will be satisfying...even more so to those are are actually Jewish.

=Tired Hiker=
This movie looks fun.

Robtard
Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
This movie looks fun.

Exactly. Cheesy, loud, gory and full of F U N.

Selphie
cannot wait for this movie, really, I don't want to wait for it, too excited

EDIT: Brad Pitt looks hilarious in this, and we get to see Omar Doom in his second movie! Can't wait to see him too, I enjoyed his small part in Death Proof a lot.

The Nuul
Originally posted by Robtard
Cheesy, loud, and full of F U N.

Just like Transformers.

WhoopeeDee
Start killing Nazis already! Hurry up! I want to see.

Nemesis X
I would enjoy this movie if the theaters would allow sixteen year olds. It is by far the most stupidest thing to ever happen in society. Just because I see a friggin madman chopping peoples heads off doesn't mean that I'll want to chop peoples heads off. Whoever brought up that exuse as to why anyone under seventeen shouldn't be watching R rated movies is retarded and deserves a smack.

Myth
Originally posted by Nemesis X
I would enjoy this movie if the theaters would allow sixteen year olds. It is by far the most stupidest thing to ever happen in society. Just because I see a friggin madman chopping peoples heads off doesn't mean that I'll want to chop peoples heads off. Whoever brought up that exuse as to why anyone under seventeen shouldn't be watching R rated movies is retarded and deserves a smack.

Actually psychological studies have shown that witnessing aggression (including on television) increases aggression, especially in younger people.

The more you know.

Selphie
Originally posted by Nemesis X
I would enjoy this movie if the theaters would allow sixteen year olds. It is by far the most stupidest thing to ever happen in society. Just because I see a friggin madman chopping peoples heads off doesn't mean that I'll want to chop peoples heads off. Whoever brought up that exuse as to why anyone under seventeen shouldn't be watching R rated movies is retarded and deserves a smack.

You might as well try to see it in a theater anyways

they don't always ask if you're 17 or not, unless you look extremely young for your age

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by The Nuul
Just like Transformers.

no, Transformers was just stupid.

MildPossession
Nem - Are you in America? I thought in America if you have an adult with you, whatever age you are you can get into an r-rated film?




I've learnt quite differently, unless you already have psychological issues, there is not enough concrete evidence that watching such things in film and television increases or influences.

Selphie
Originally posted by MildPossession
Nem - Are you in America? I thought in America if you have an adult with you, whatever age you are you can get into an r-rated film?




I've learnt quite differently, unless you already have psychological issues, there is not enough concrete evidence that watching such things in film and television increases or influences.

Yeah, if you have someone with you that's at least 21(Not 17, people often get confused with this), you can have them take you to an R-Rated movie.

SnakeEyes
Movie comes out in roughly 3 weeks (in the U.S.)!

I'm still pumped as hell for it.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Myth
Actually psychological studies have shown that witnessing aggression (including on television) increases aggression, especially in younger people.

The more you know.

And that same data does not show an increase in real world violence.



The more you know.


Funny, isn't it?


And it's not "witnessing agression", it is specifcally "witnessing violence".



We've had this dicussion, already, in the GDF.


Edit - Just saw MildP's post. You're mai hero. flirt

MildPossession
kisses




So if you are in America Nem, go with an adult!

Selphie
I think it comes out on my first official day of college sad

I would love to see it opening night, but who knows

SnakeEyes
Originally posted by Selphie
I think it comes out on my first official day of college sad

I would love to see it opening night, but who knows

Do it! What a good way to kick off college, eh?

I made tentative plans to see this with my brother. We don't do much together or even interact all that much, but this'll be a good bonding experience.

Alpha Centauri
Originally posted by dadudemon
I find the anti-sematic things Hitler and his peeps did...very yucky. So, a movie like this will be satisfying...even more so to those are are actually Jewish.

You'd think winning the war would be enough.

Apparently a Tarantino movie is redemption enough.

-AC

Kazenji
I read somewhere they showed this movie in Germany and they liked it.

WhoopeeDee
Early review:

http://www.moviesonline.ca/movie_review_detail.php?id=13668


Kill those Kraut eating Nazis!!!!!!!

BruceSkywalker
I saw this already...

pretty good

gobstakid777
thius movie looks so frickin kick ass,and i just saw fight club and pulp fiction for the first time so now i'm really amped

MildPossession
Where have you been!! Two classics you have just seen. stick out tongue

gobstakid777
I just never had the time to see pulp fiction and fight club,it looked like a dumb UFC -style movie in the previews..boy was i wrong

Darth Martin
Fight Club is a great and entertaining film. I thought it was about fighting initially. I was fortunately wrong.

Myth
Originally posted by MildPossession


I've learnt quite differently, unless you already have psychological issues, there is not enough concrete evidence that watching such things in film and television increases or influences.

I'm entering my 3rd year working on my doctorate in Psychology. I'm quite sure what I stated was accurate. I could post the link to the studies if you'd like.

Myth
Originally posted by dadudemon
And that same data does not show an increase in real world violence.



That may be accurate, but is slightly different from what I arguing.

Myth
Here are a couple of nuggets:

Watching TV violence at age eight would predict how much criminal activity the boys would engage in by age thirty. Men who had liked watching a lot of voilent TV at age eight engaged in substantially more serious criminal activity by age thirty than men who had not liked watching violent TV at age eight. Those with high preference committed more than twice the amount of crimes compared to those with low preference (Huesmann, Moise-Titus, Podolski, & Eron, 2003).

Participants that watched an aggressive film were more likely to shock a confrontational confederate than those in the study who watched a neutral film (Berkowitz, 1993).

Male college students behaved more aggressively toward a female when they were angered after watching an aggressive film versus a control film (Donnerstein, 1980).

T.M
Just saw an advanced screening of Inglourious Basterds last night was very good. Both brutal and funny not Tarantino's best but certainly up there just after Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction.

The one thing I would say is the chapter titles do take you out of the experience instead of drawing you into the film.

MildPossession
^ Jealousssssssssssss.

I still believe what I was taught, there is no 100% proof of people with 'no psychological problems already there' being influenced by films/tv programmes to be violent.

I find every case I've seen where films are put in the spotlight, there are always other background factors already there when it comes to the person who has commited the act.

FistOfThe North
damn, this thread started in early '04.

anyway the movie looks kinda silly. and brad pitt starring in a comedy/satire? and on that looks over the top?

i dunno..

think i'll skip this one.

T.M
Brad Pitt is great in this role. Though the stand out performance is Christoph Waltz as Hans Landa he was fantastic.

BruceSkywalker
I see this on wednesday...

it looks like a good film

WhoopeeDee
Well so far the early reviews have been very good for the film. Rotten Tomatoes have at it 80% so it could be certified fresh by the end of the week. Then again these are only early reviews.

Quite frankly, I just want to see it already. World could burn to ashes for all I care....just let it be AFTER I see this movie.

GO TARANTINO!

SnakeEyes
Originally posted by WhoopeeDee
Well so far the early reviews have been very good for the film. Rotten Tomatoes have at it 80% so it could be certified fresh by the end of the week. Then again these are only early reviews.

Quite frankly, I just want to see it already. World could burn to ashes for all I care....just let it be AFTER I see this movie.

GO TARANTINO!

thumb up I know, I want to see it NOW.

It has an 82% right now by the way, so hopefully it'll keep rising!

WhoopeeDee
One more day for me! big grin

The only bad reviews I've seen so far are from The Hollywood Reporter and The New York Times. Since these two are known to be negative reviewers just for the sake of shock and to make themselves look profesional (plus they're known to eat shit as well)...we can pretty assume it's safe to think this movie it's good.

TMPC
The original Italian movie was not bad. A typical rag-tag WWII commandos story made interesting because of the unique engaging fun characterizations. Deserving of MATNIEE price only. Hopefully, this adaptation will be better.

~ TMPC

SnakeEyes
You guys realize that this is NOT a remake of the "original" The Inglorious Bastards, right? Quentin's Basterds simply borrowed the title (with different spelling)/is a WWII film. The plots are completely different and Tarantino's is 100% him.

Ms.Marvel
Originally posted by Myth
Here are a couple of nuggets:

Men who had liked watching a lot of voilent TV at age eight engaged in substantially more serious criminal activity by age thirty than men who had not liked watching violent TV at age eight. Those with high preference committed more than twice the amount of crimes compared to those with low preference (Huesmann, Moise-Titus, Podolski, & Eron, 2003).


this kind of debunks your whole point.

if youre trying to say that simply watching violent television increases your lust for real world violence this contradicts it because the only ones who showed an increased violent nature are those who already preferred to watch the violence anyway, so their disposition was already violent and thus its in no way the fault of the content being watched.

a better point in your favor would be if the people who didnt prefer to watch violent TV but watched it anyway became more violent. the sheer fact that the only people who became more violent are the ones who already preferred the violent TV proves that you have to already have a certain psychological disposition in order for it to have any effect on you.

So no exposure to violence only affects those who are already messed up in the head... not normal people.

Myth
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
this kind of debunks your whole point.

if youre trying to say that simply watching violent television increases your lust for real world violence this contradicts it because the only ones who showed an increased violent nature are those who already preferred to watch the violence anyway, so their disposition was already violent and thus its in no way the fault of the content being watched.

a better point in your favor would be if the people who didnt prefer to watch violent TV but watched it anyway became more violent. the sheer fact that the only people who became more violent are the ones who already preferred the violent TV proves that you have to already have a certain psychological disposition in order for it to have any effect on you.

So no exposure to violence only affects those who are already messed up in the head... not normal people.

Did you read the ones after the part you quoted? Those ones were people who were randomly selected to watch videos with aggression and then were more aggressive. It appears you are only looking at the info that supports your hypothesis and ignoring the others.

gobstakid777
I'm seeing this tomorrow

Ms.Marvel
Originally posted by Myth
Did you read the ones after the part you quoted? Those ones were people who were randomly selected to watch videos with aggression and then were more aggressive. It appears you are only looking at the info that supports your hypothesis and ignoring the others.

nothing you wrote that comes after that says that, specifically.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Myth
Did you read the ones after the part you quoted? Those ones were people who were randomly selected to watch videos with aggression and then were more aggressive. It appears you are only looking at the info that supports your hypothesis and ignoring the others.

Then, the burden of proof is on you to prove that watching those videos actually caused real violence.



Since that type of study is unethical, you CAN'T prove it, as fact.





I just had this same discussion with inimalist, who IS a research psychologist who actually does studies like this. (Not necessarily violence studies, but pyschological studies.)

What inimalist told me is that studies like the one you bourght up prove "little if anything" OUTSIDE of the lab environment.

And, Ms. Marvel is correct. There's a growing body of evidence for causality confusion.

Video gamers who do violent or aggressive things after playing violent video games were already violent and aggressive to begin with: the game just excited them and enhanced those behaviors.

Anabolic Steroid users who get roid rage already were a**holes to begin with and the effect of those steroids on the psychology of the individual is very questionable. (Meaning, Anabolic Steroids have very little if any psychoactive properties.) Just a**holes who go on steroids become bigger a**holes. Basically, it's in their head and not the juice. Those who report enhanced agression do not seem more agressive to friends and family, for the most part...they just feel more agressive.

And, finally, we come full circle to your point. Individuals who do violent things and commit crimes have also been found to watch violent things as younger children. As Ms. Marvel put it, you're putting the chicken before the egg or the egg before the chicken. It is very likely, but still not definitively proven, that the individual had a disposition towards violence to begin with. This has theory roots in both genetics and environment as cause FOR that action (watching and doing violent things.)

Anecdote: My mother told me that I used to fight my older brother and sister, physically, at the drop of a hat. I got into many fights in middle and high school. However, my parents would not allow me to watch rated R movie or play maturish games until I was 13. no expression I was on a road to violence. I still have to deal with it. I have a criminal mind, but never commit crime. For all intents and purposes, I should be a bad person. I'm not. Guess why? It's all the the damn individual and the choices they make. no expression None of thise "ohhhh, he watched Rambo when he was a kid, that's why he shot up the bank tellers." B.S.







To relate this on topic: A child of 8 should not see this movie. no expression

Ms.Marvel
i know i know. im a genius.

WhoopeeDee
Not watching violence makes you a pansy hippie.

GIVE ME ALL THE GORE!

gobstakid777
Originally posted by WhoopeeDee
Not watching violence makes you a pansy hippie.

GIVE ME ALL THE GORE!

http://mirror.servut.us/kuvat/motivation/manwich.jpg
let the testorone fill ur bloodstream!!!!

WhoopeeDee
Ohhhhh...Ahhhh!!!! drool

SnakeEyes
Seeing this tomorrow with my brother. It shall be a GLOURIOUS experience. Reviews have been consistently positive too, currently an 87% at rottentomatoes.

gobstakid777
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Seeing this tomorrow with my brother. It shall be a GLOURIOUS experience. Reviews have been consistently positive too, currently an 87% at rottentomatoes.
the exact same for me except instead of brother it's my friend

Myth
Originally posted by dadudemon
Then, the burden of proof is on you to prove that watching those videos actually caused real violence.



Since that type of study is unethical, you CAN'T prove it, as fact.

Its late, so I'll read the rest of your post later, but you obviously don't know how the scientific method works since you are asking for "proof" and science isn't used to prove anything outright. It can provide evidence or support for things, or disprove things, but it is not used to "prove" stuff.

Altar[1stONE]
Saw a midnight showing of this movie, after seeing District 9 (which was brilliant).
Quintin does it again with his latest opus, a must see. Deciding to see it was really an impulse, I started to lose my faith in Tarantino after Deathproof. But this movie really redeemed all that , and helped me remember why ive always enjoyed his work. So yes , thumbs up for The Basterds ( and district 9 if you havnt seen it)

WhoopeeDee
Just a matter of hours...I been waiting for this film since 2004.

Give it to me!

SnakeEyes
9 hours till I'm sitting in the theater.

Alpha Centauri
I.T.T: Dadudemon continues to cram "I'm a fighter." into his posts.

Anyway, yeah, been out for a week here. I just saw it. You can all suck it.

Nah, it's brilliant. As Tarantino always is.

It's not nearly as gory as people are expecting.

-AC

Robtard
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Nah, it's brilliant. As Tarantino always is.

-AC

Jackie Brown and Death Proof weren't brilliant. Mind you, they weren't shit and some would have you believe, but not brilliant, even by a "potato head's" unit of measure.

MildPossession
Jackie Brown was rather good I think and some even think this is his actual best film. I also liked the second half of Deathproof but it doesn't come close to his other films.

Robtard
Not to turn this into a QT masturbation fest and take away from Inglorious Basterds which I'm excited to say I'll be watching tonight, but Jackie Brown had a 'trying to hard' feeling for me.

I think Pulp Fiction is his best, it delivered exactly as it's name implied. Four Rooms is another enjoyable one for me. To be fair though, I watched Jackie Brown when it came out in the theatres in 97'; I had different taste in movies back then, so I should give it a second viewing now that my taste has 'matured', for lack of a better word.

Spartan005
Saw it last night and thought it was pretty good, nothing spectacular though. The movie could easily be 20 minutes shorter but I'll get over it

Surprisingly it wasn't the most dramatic movie ever made, in fact according to about 1/2 of the people in my theater it was a comedy. For instance, the first time a nazi dies a horrifying brutal death the audience burst out laughing and clapping

Robtard
I was under the impression it is more of a comedy than a drama? Like Evil Dead 2 was more comedic than Horror, while still being in the Horror genre.

Mairuzu
Originally posted by Robtard
Jackie Brown and Death Proof weren't brilliant. Mind you, they weren't shit and some would have you believe, but not brilliant, even by a "potato head's" unit of measure. Death proof not so much as jackie brown

MildPossession
You are a bit deluded going into Inglourious Basterds expecting serious drama as a whole... stick out tongue smile

Unless you didn't see any trailers or clips, trailers showed it had black comedy in it.

Nemesis X
"We're gonna do one thing and one thing only: Killing Nazi's"

Don't know why but I think this should be one of the best movie quotes of the year.

Robtard
Originally posted by Nemesis X
"We're gonna do one thing and one thing only: Killing Nazi's"

Don't know why but I think this should be one of the best movie quotes of the year.

Because Nazis are considering naughty and not nice?

Rogue Jedi
Second Brad Pitt character to go out with a knife killing nazis. Or is there more to it than that?

WhoopeeDee
To be honest...I don't like Pitt...good actor and stuff...but meh. I just want to see the nazis getting kill.

Just three more hours till I get my tickets.

MildPossession
I can't think of anything memorable with Brad Pitt apart from the important ones, Fight Club, and 12 Monkeys. Completely out of my head any others.

Robtard
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Second Brad Pitt character to go out with a knife killing nazis. Or is there more to it than that?

Which other movie did Pitt kill Nazis?

Rogue Jedi
haermm

I like him in certain roles. Fight Club, Legends of the Fall, Twelve Monkeys.

WhoopeeDee
Originally posted by MildPossession
I can't think of anything memorable with Brad Pitt apart from the important ones, Fight Club, and 12 Monkeys. Completely out of my head any others.

I only like Pitt in three movies.

The Tibet movie, Legends of the Fall, and Seven.

Didn't care much for Fight Club....

jaden101
Originally posted by MildPossession
I can't think of anything memorable with Brad Pitt apart from the important ones, Fight Club, and 12 Monkeys. Completely out of my head any others.

Babel.
The Mexican.
Snatch.
Interview with a Vampire
Se7en.
True Romance.
Thelma and Louise.

He's done a shit load of great films.

Robtard
Even in movies that aren't all that great (E.G. 12 Monkees, Kalifornia), he does a decent role. Dude's a good actor.

Sleepers is another good movie with him in it.

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