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Does anyone know where you can find lotr sheet music on the net? I need it for free, i mean I'm not trying to sound cheap, i just can't find it anywhere here, and my parents have something against using their credit card on the internet. Well, I was just wondering if anyone had any ideas, so if anyone can help, it would be greatly appreciated!

i dont know if there's any on the net, if u cant find any try your local library, u can get loadsa sheet music there, and hey, u dont have to pay!

oh and try kazaa! ive just been lookin for may it be by enya, and u can d/l the sheet music from there!

ive seen some at www.lordoftherings.net and then you click on shop and then it will say click here to enter the store. but you have to pay for it. there is a TT booklet and i think there is a FOTR book. but im not totaly sure about that. sorry for it being for money.

hey guys, thanks for all the help, if you want, i did a bit of research, and i found a website with a lot of the scores for free! Well, I'll post it in a bit, I have to find the page again, well the site has Rohan, Evenstar, Concerning Hobbits, the main theme, May it Be, Many Meetings and a Mix, thanks again for all the help!

cool for free, like do you print it out or something or do you order cuz, then you probably have to pay for s+h and the other stuff just incase ya know

K, i found it! its TOTALLY free!!! all you have to do is print it! the site is www .geocities.com/avarisilver/lotrsm/
hope this helps!

i can play nearly every lotr sheet music that's out. good for me i guess...

email me and i will give you the lord of the ring "IN DREAMS" sheet music!

Click here to email me!

try www.8notes.com, thats where I got mine b4 i bought the book lotr

hi does anyone know when the rotk piano music book will be out?

I'm searching for the music which the elves sing when they pass Sam and Frodo on their way to the havens, and I read somewhere that it's called Farewell to Lorien. But whenever I'm trying to downoad the music with Kazaa (it's bad, I know, but it's so beautiful I just NEED it, and I can't get it on CD out here), I get classical music. I heard of this, and I've tried many different Farewells, but they all are classical. Does anyone know how I can get it?

Ahoy there matey.

Well this is all I could find of Farewell to Lorien and it's from the Two Towers. Farewell to Lorien

This one is from the Fellowship of the Ring, Lothlorien - Lothlorien




Any soundtrack Mp3 seeking, I can help you.

ha i cant help u there but i guess kitoky can

Great! thanks Kitoky. But I was something else than I thought it was. I'm still looking for the song where the elves pass in FOTR, which was in the FOTR EE. I don't know whether it ever got on cd. Hope so. It's one of my favs.

Oh when the Elves travel to the West to the Grey Havens?

I'm sorry, but I believe that song can only be heard on the EE since it wasn't in the original movie and the sound track follows the original movie.

Look here Click to "Soundtracks"...then Click "FOTR lyrics"...then scroll down at the very, very bottom. It's the second to the last song. You will see a link of the sound file, then click it, download it, then you should hear it. It's not the whole thing though, it's just the song that you hear from the movie, with Frodo and Sam speaking.

Where shadowy?

I can't take the link to the real page where the song is. I don't know why. But just click the link that I gave..then click "Soundtrack: a Linguistic Survey", then scroll down then click "Lyrics" from FOTR....then scroll down at the very, very bottom. It's the second to the last song. There's a sound file there.

Here the exact link
http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/movie_soundtrack_fotr.htm#elbereth

And the download
http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/sounds/elbereth.wav

Kit, how do u post mp3 links...?

Thanks a lot!! This is exactly what I was looking for, the words with it too. You're great shadowy blue

Press the http:// .... button in your post selections...silly Phoenix.

Here you can ask any questions about Lord of the Rings and Exa or others can answer them.

Exa, can you translate these for me?

Caedo, losto. U-enn davo.
Amman harthach? Anim unad.
Letug nach. O hon u-wannathon.
U-moe le anno nad. Onen a hon beth nin.
Gurth han nstatha. Ta han narcho Gurth.

Gar vethed e-chunen, go hon bedithon na meth.


Mi naurath Orodruin
Boe hedi i Vin
Han i vangad i moe ben bango
Sin eriol natha tur in ugarnen
Sin eriol um beleg ugannen

U cilith 'war.
U men 'war.
Boe min mebi.
Boe min bango.


Dannen le
A u-erin le regi
Rang ail le iestannen
Lu ail le tegin na hen.
Gwannach o innen ului
U lu erui, ului.

Thanks

LoL a thread dedicated to me...


Ok the translations

Caedo, losto. U-enn davo.
Amman harthach? Anim unad.
Letug nach. O hon u-wannathon.
U-moe le anno nad. Onen a hon beth nin.
Gurth han nstatha. Ta han narcho Gurth.

Gar vethed e-chunen, go hon bedithon na meth.

- I'd say
Lie (down), sleep; not ... yield (is it possible that it's ú erin or something like that? Then it's "I can't"
For what / why do you hope? For me ("I have"?) nothing (more?)
Letug - no idea what that is. Le is "you" and tûg means fat or stupid or foolish... nach is probably from na- +-ch, thus "you are", though this doesnt really sound sindarin as there is usually no verb used for "to be". next is From him not-i-will-leave
It's not necessary for you to give anything (so "you owe nothing"; I gave to him my word
next words are "Death it", nstatha cant be Sindarin. Is it ristatha? if so, it means "will break" - thus "death will break it "; So it shall (imperative) break (or rip apart) Death - perhaps means "so death shall break it".

He-has last of heart... with him i will go to (the) end.


Mi naurath Orodruin
Boe hedi i Vin
Han i vangad i moe ben bango
Sin eriol natha tur in ugarnen
Sin eriol um beleg ugannen

- in fires (of) fiery-mountain
Necessary to cast the One (?)
It (is) the price that (is) necessary (...?) to pay
So only will-be power (...?) not-done (undone?)
So only evil great (is) undone


U cilith 'war.
U men 'war.
Boe min mebi.
Boe min bango.

No other choice
No other way
It is necessary for ?us (or one of us?) ?to take
It is necessary for ?us to pay


Dannen le
A u-erin le regi
Rang ail le iestannen
Lu ail le tegin na hen.
Gwannach o innen ului
U lu erui, ului.

You are fallen
And I can't reach you
(Ouf this one is hard... ) dunno the first word... the second is supposed to mean "it's raining" but that doesnt really fit here... the next is perhaps (roughly) "you were willed on" or something like that...
(...) Time (or moment) I lead you to it (or to this)
I will leave from you never
Not one time (=once), no never (not ever)

Wow, thanks so much Exa!

Where did you find these texts?

lol cool a thread for 'lynx'

I found them on these little promo cards.

Sauron nice sig, sorry but i prefer the other one better,

Hey I found a complete translation for the first on the net

Lie down, sleep. / I cannot yield.
Why do you still hope? / I have nothing else.
You are a fool. / I will not leave him.
You owe him nothing / I gave him my word.
Death will break it. / Then let death break it.
He has the last of my heart. / I will go with him to the end.

Awww that text is cool... I love it...

Mee too it is beautiful!!

That really is beautiful.

o k question:

why did the elves release Melkor after 3 ages! why did they let him roam free and redoo all the damage.

i am only half-way thru book so don't give away any spoilers.

lol, finally an EXA page, we knew it was coming.

And me the newbie created it

They were merciful
Well, Melkor was such a bad guy at that time or at least they didnt think so... main reason is perhaps that he was always friendly and so they shortened his time in prison. He was helpful to the elves, always talking in a friendly way, teaching them, they thought that he was perhaps cured... but well he was a good actor he showed them all the things he knew - and he knew many things, and the elves were quite impressed (especially Feanor), but he also put seeds of lies in their hearts, lies about the Valar and that all they wanted was power for themselves (well, he was right at that point ), so they released him because they thought "well he isnt really that evil..."

At least I think it was like that my memory often fails me... Il re-read it when Im home again

********************** legolas *********************
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Exa you are so brilliant, what would we do without you.

Very interesting indeed
You forgot Witchy and Mothy...

Visit -> http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.htm - Encyclopedia of Arda

And -> http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/ - Ardalambion - Evlish Language Resource

That won't stop us from asking questions and sites like those don't help very much so stop being sucha party pooper

Ok I wanna ask something...Is eldarion human right? I mean... he's not half-elven , is he a numenorean? did he had they same life spam as his father? I never understood that, and... does he have pointed ears?

He's human, mortal, yes.
Númenóreans was just a name for the people coming from the island of Númenor so not really connected to the lifespan, though of course as they were the heirs of the Edain of the first age and given support by the Eldar they lived longer, especially their kings - descendants of Elves, Humans and Ainur (though only distantly).
He is a halfelven or what we would perhaps call a halfelven as some of his closer relatives are elves or at least halfelves - Aragorn has some elvish blood and Arwen also does, though she became mortal. So he will live longer then "normal" men, but most probably shorter than his father. I think you could also call aragorn a little bit halfelven (and boromir, too ) though he (and all the other dunedain and numenoreans since elros) wasnt given the choice between mortal and immortal life, as Eldarion also wont be. He's mortal.

Elves do not in general have pointed ears. I dont know where this idea comes from... tolkien writes somewhere concerning the etymologies of the elvish words for "ear" and "leaf" that they are related as the elven ears were a bit more leaf-shaped than the mortal ones - though they didnt actually have to be pointed.
It's also not true for tolkiens elves that they dont wear beards and they were not supposed to be blond... well...

I didn't say, or imply that. I would rather everyone have access to equal amounts of information, hence the reason I posted it. Also, these 2 sites in particular DO teach you alot. Want to learn how to speak like an Orc? Take a look at the 2nd link, or possibly Quenya? Sindarin? Khuzdul? And many more. Read correctly, before you post seemingly witty replies with incorrect assumptions.

thanks for the info sifer... and i will refer to it often...but exa's just so briliant!!!

It's sad that nobody here ever seems to visit the ardalambion sites. There are about five links to it in each elvish thread and yet obviously nobody reads anything there though they are the best source for information about Tolkien's languages and would answer perhaps 90% of the questions about "elvish".


What does this refer to?

Kitoky claiming the following:

That won't stop us from asking questions and sites like those don't help very much so stop being sucha party pooper

Dude I was joking man.

I can't let this thread die....besides, there are loads of questions that Exa can answer like the thread Discos started or someone...

but why do you just ask me? why dont you ask sauron? or ush? or turin? or the house of ransom? or freddiefreeload? ...? or yourself?!? they know most probably more than I do ^^

Ok another question... how did annatar 'seduced' the elves to make the rings... I think he was very handsome as annatar LOL, but what the heck did he tell them? was it something like 'Let's make some pretty jewerly for out beautiful fingers?' or what?

The elves wanted to learn and were impressed by Sauron's skills and knowledge about making things of craft, so he taught them for long years, and well if you admire somebody you often do stupid things that for just a moment look like having a reason... so, why not also making rings? I dont know about any special reason... perhaps they saw rings of power as a perfect challenge... or sauron just told his pupils "well today we will start a new chapter... creating veeeery powerful ringies that might perhaps one day bring great evil."

^ ^

ok exa i have another ?:

is ungoliant and shelob the same spider and if not are they related?

They are related - Shelob is the last daughter of Ungoliant.

There are different versions of Ungoliant, but it seems quite sure that she died before the third age. It is said that "she devoured herself" in her hunger in the South of the World, while Tolkien wrote in a manuscript for a poem about Earendil that he killed Ungoliant on one of his journeys to the South.

oh thanx

Does anyone have translations for the choral pieces on the soundtrack such as "The Bridge of Khazad-Dum" and stuff like that. (This applies to all soundtracks)

PLEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE find them. If I could my self then I would but I can't so I won't.

-Thanks

You find everything on elvish.org:

FoTR:
http://elvish.org/gwaith/movie_soundtrack_fotr.htm

TTT:
http://elvish.org/gwaith/movie_soundtrack_ttt.htm

RoTK:
http://elvish.org/gwaith/movie_soundtrack_rotk.htm

Here:

http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/movie_soundtrack.htm

Just scroll down and click on "Lyrics"..not the pictures.

Thank you Soooooo much

Oh, there you go, there's Exa and her Elvish sites. You should be alright.

Can anyone tell me what the use of this thread is? If you can- prove it.

Ask Exa?

ok exa! can you translate what Maranwe Sindanarie means in evlish? i got it from an elf name generator.

No, not really.
As it's from the name generator, don't take it as a serious name well at least it contains "elvish" elements (in contrary to the names of *some* other name generators), though I cannot translate them totalle.

Maranwe sounds a little like the Noldo-Sindarin-names of the first age, especially because of the ending -we which was quite common (like in Ingwe, Nurwe, Finwe, Morwe); maran sounds like a quenya word, but I have no idea what it could mean - mar is "home" or "earth", maybe its in some special casus, I dont know as I have little idea about quenya grammar. It also sounds a little related to the word for "yellow", though I dont know its quenya pendant.

Sindanarie sounds to me like a connection of Sinda "a grey elf", nár "fire" and a female ending.

hey exa how cool a thread for youuuu! could you translate this for me
Nessa Ar-Feiniel

Nessa is the name of a goddess and maybe means "manlike"... or something... Ar-feiniel is the nickname of the sister of the king of Gondolin and means "Queen white-lady"

lol confused... i would love a proper elf name where can i get one

Well what is a "proper elf name"? This IS a proper elf name... or do you want your real name translated or somethting... Arwene is also a "proper" elvish name...

hey exa buddy! i'm pretty sure my screen name is my name in Elvish, but i don't know if it's an accurate translation. help please???

Ok I think its quenya - right? Or rather qenya, using "k" instead of "c"...

Sounds like "sharp-?cleaver-girl"... or something -hyando like in "Sangahyando", this grandson of Castamir, but I dont know if this element exists along

what?

Lol what do you actually want to know`?

what my name is in elvish. i'm not sure if Maikahyandowen is a correct translation of it.

A correct translation of - well, what is the name you want to translate?

Alison

Ew... where does that name come from, do you know that? Because I have no idea what its meaning is and if I dont know the meaning I cant translate anything

it's the Celtic form of Alice

Celtic form - Aelisc - All eye - all knowing...(wild guess)

thoughts, Exa?

OH ok thanks


It would be Arquen... or Artanis... or maybe Arwen (meaning "High" or "noble" in the original old high german form)
note - Artanis is a name of Galadriel

thanx exa!

np

ok this may SEEM like a stupid question, ok well it IS a stupid question but:

Why don't hobbit's and elves have facial hair??? is it because they constantly shave, or is it just something PJ invented for the movies...

That's one of the misconceptions some people have. Elves actually could grow facial hair. Cirdan in the book has beard.

oh cool

Yes, you also can see a beard on one of Tolkiens pictures... it shows Beleg ( ) and hes definitely wearing a beard.

But the audience simply did not want to see beards on elves and they also wanted to have blond elves, so PJ made it like that

Guten Morgen allerseits!

Hey Exa, this is off topic, but the german word for "I" is "Ich".
How exactly is that pronounced? Is it "Ik" or "Ix" or "Ish". Or is it
"Eye-ch"...just curious.

Ebenfalls einen wunderschönen guten Abend

Ok lol ... the I- is like english "ee" just a lot shorter... but its only one sound not like eye.
the ch is pronounced like... hm... perhaps the first sound of "huge", in the international phonetic thingy the sound is represented by a c with a cedille but I think that wont really help

Ok yeah I think the first sound of "huge" (the one thats like "hy" before the "uge" follows) is ok to compare it... then put a very small i before it, but you can just say the "yh" or "hy"-thing if its in a sentence... difficult to explain as these sounds simply dont exist in english

Must keep on Fist Page....Exa...keep on answerin'

Hantalye...Danke...Motto Grazie...

ok this is more of a comment than a question...:

remember when in ROTK aragorn went to the black gate and said "let the lord of the black land come forth"...then the armies came out and they were fightin' and a big troll came and began crushing aragorn's neck with his FOOT...and then aragorn STABED it with a dagor....

that reminds me a LOT of when morgoth crushed fingolfin(i think thats his name)and he stabed the foot of Morgoth....

Do you think that was a lil thing pj put in for sil fans??? or no relation at all...???I mean when i read that part in the book i instantly thought of theat scene from ROTK

Well...good theory, but I don't think so.

@Feanor nichts zu danken ^^

lol @kit why do you want to keep it on the first page? Im sorry I didnt answer for several hours but I was sleeping as this was between 12:30 am and 7:30 am

About the stabbing theory... nice idea, it really reminds of the scene in the Sil... wow Ô_o

Because, I see threads everyday being made asking questions that I think you can answer, and if it goes further than the first page, the newbies can't see it so they don't a stupid excuse.

Here it is! I'm putting it to sticky.

Lol now it's already a note somehow... scary

hey exa could you tell me what caseyleigh is in elfish

caseyleigh?? omg... lol first I have to find out what that actually means my english is not really that good... *takes her dictionary*

well i htink leigh means one who shelters form storm

and casey means brave

Meadow? ok Il try, Il try... whats casey then

i was wrong with meadow lol............its shelters from storm....
casey means brave

Brave shelters from Storm? ok ok that might be long
i'd say

Candobalagos... if its shortened a little because I dont know what the combination nd+ch usually becomes... maybe nch... then it would be Canchobalagos... (if I cut the last syllable of "shelter" because would sound silly otherwise

thanks what does Fëanáro mean

Feanáro means something like Fiery Spirit

hey thats so cool............i typed in luke and thatt what it gave me

lol Yeah its another version of the name Feanor (which is I think only sindarized from it) the creator of the Silmarilli...

its kinda cool and lukes name means bringer of light so its close.....talking of jules is he in

That would, I think, translate as Calagyl or Laucyll... doesnt luke mean "coming from Lucania"?

Exa how do you translate "That's great!" In elvish?

as I already wrote somewhere (having read what you wrote when I was away) you could perhaps say "Na vae" or "san mae" or "Na Daer"... OR "NA BELEG"

Could you tell me what each means?

Na and san mean pretty much the same... na is litterally " is" but its only rarely used... san means "it" and is usually used for "it is" in Sindarin.

Mae (or lenited Vae, I dont think it should be mutated here but it sounds nicer) means "good" or "nice" or is just a positive word... like "great" it, while "Daer" and "Beleg" (and "Tond" are the litteral words for "great" but rather in the sense of "big".

Oh okay! Much thanks!

np (why did you need it)

My teach wanted to know! She's an LotR fan also.

Lol ok ...

You can also tell her that "correct" is "Tîr" in sindarin

That I will!

I wish my teacher liked LOTR

Lol mine also dont really like it they all laugh about me and my crazy friends

yay. Mine too. the other day we were using the laptops, and since i had finished my paper, i was on a LOTR sight. My teacher just walked by and was like, you still like that stuff?' and i was like "of course'

Lol

Mine hate it when I write parts of my exercise books in elvish writings

where can i download lotr fonts for my computer?

Can anyone construe what Weaving said to Frodo when curing him of the Witchking's poison?

He said "Lasto beth nîn, tolo dan nan galad" - which means "hear my word, come back to the light"

lotr fonts - which ones? like, the LoTR title font or rather "elvish" writings?
there are both at www.dafont.com

Or jut go to the thread 'Elvish Font'

That's exactly what Arwen said - and she is much more appealing. It would be worth coming back to the light just to flip her over don't you think. I feel that Weaving was too old and ugly to be Elrond. I expected him to say, "welcome to Rivendell, Mr Anderson..."

HEY EXA HEY EXA I READ THE SILMARILLION....

sorry guys had to use caps i wont again :-( lol
yeah but anyway i read the silmarillion and damn it is so good and also the story at the start umm the valaquenta i think about the making of earth and the ainur man that is cool... btw naughty melkor and... feanor is sort of pretty evil for an elf

Hey, Cheney didnt see you for quite a while, missed you...

You read the Sil? Cool Melkor is the best and, yey, Feanor is a great character because he's just not the typical boring good elf... he's cool, he's different, and he causes loads of problems

Exa! Here, here!!! Question! ...LOL..

Whatever happened to Cuivienen? Is it still part of Middle-earth during the Third Age, or did I miss something and it was destroyed?

Thankies!!

Who was the main character in the Lord of the Rings?

Sauron? He's The Lord of the Rings for the sake of Pete!

I think it's part of the fascination of LoTR that there is no main character - it's a story about friendship and all of the characters are involved in this story. The central character was in the beginnging probably Frodo - and, though he's not always really present, Sauron. Later Aragorn practically got the same importance and gandalf as the "head" of the fellowship, too... but no real "main" character.



LOL ... Cuiviénen was later known as Mordor

It's indeed fascinating that the places where life first came from - Cuiviénen for elves and Hildórien for men - later became the home of the "evil" side, Mordor exactly covers a big part of the shapes of earlier Lake (or rather Sea) of Helcar on the shores of which Cuiviénen lay while the region near Hildórien must be where most of the Haradrim and maybe also the origins of the peoples of Rhûn come from.
When Thû the wizard (later Sauron) settled here in the southeast of the inhabited world, he must have spread his "evilness" over the country so that all the waters of Helcar dried - except for the (very salty) part that was later known as the Sea of Núrn, the only rests of the Tower of Helcar which Melkor built of ice in the beginning of light.
So Cuiviénen as it was before, a dark, silent place surrounded by huge forests, somewhere in the east one of the four first mountain-landscapes of the world (the Orocarni) and a peaceful lake / sea directly at hand, was surely destroyed by Sauron's might, the region was I think later a desert.

Oh my Gee, I never knew that!! Thanks Exa!! Cuivienen...Mordor..hmm..yummy!!! I've been wondering for a long time what happened to Cuivienen, LOL..I didn't know it became Mordor..LOL..Thanks again!!

... well, at least part of eastern Mordor Il draw a map to find out where exactly it is... unfortunately not yet found any maps that really show that.

hope this isn't too big...

lol naughty evil exa melkor is not cool lol. hes a naughty naughty ainur. lol but anyway ummm i agree with feanor though its interesting how an elf can be portrayed that way

@Feanor thx, cool map...

if you look at Mordor, it exactly covers the western half of earlier Helcar, but I just noticed that I got a little confused with the proportions as Helcar reached northward until the later Sea of Rhûn, so Cuiviénen actually doesnt belong to Mordor anymore, yet the landscape there seems to be similar the the "Wild Wood" has surely disappeared.


Melkor may be a naughty naughty Ainu but he's still cool (why does everybody always just like the "good"s... thats boring melkor is really great character)
"Then Morgoth came. For the last time
in those great wars he dared to climb
from subterranean throne profound,
the rumour of his feet a sound
of rumbling earthquake underground....

he IS cool

exa: i've read The Hobbit THe Lord of the Rings and The Silmarilion
now what? which of Tolkien's other works should i pick up now?

and which one first?

The History of Middle-earth.. That's 12 series/books but worth it... Or The Letters of JRR Tolkien..or Unfinished Tales... There's more though like The Adventures of Tom Bombadil etc. but those first books I've mentioned are more important.


*LOL...I answered instead of Exa..can't help it..sorry!*

lol *quotes first post* "and exa OR OTHERS can answer"



I also recommend the Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth

thanx i'll think i'll try unfinished tales......

*runs to bookstore*

Hi Exa!!! I have a qestion... Again
How do I say " Even the smallest person can change the course of the future." Thanks

Phew, I fear my Sindarin isnt good enough for that...

I'd suggest something like

"I-ben nibenwain presta aen i-rant en-allú..."

but thats a rather rough translation as I dont know too many of the words - no "even", no "can", no "future"... for even & can I added "aen" which should make the sentence hypotetic so it should do... for future I used allú from ab+lû, "later time". I also wasnt sure about "person" so I used "pen" which should mean something like that. Dunno if n+w in nibenwain should be mutated, but I dont think so.

Is it true??? I've found a question that Exa couldn't answer Just kidding! Thanks anyway!!!

Lol

At least I try to answer ... np

lol Yes, you did. It doesn't matter that you couldn't answer because you have answered all my other questions

As I said, possibly the translation IS correct, but I cant guarantee 100% ^^

btw, found a word which might improve the sentence...
As I dont know what the source for the words "erin" and "erich" is (could be or-, ar- or er-), I searched for an other word for "can"

so the sentence would be

I-ben nibenwain pûl presto (aen) i-rant en-allú