Which Hero Do You Think Has The Coolest Enemies?

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LeAtHerRFace
Comn Spidermans gotta have one of the coolest enemies around. Such as, Venom, Green Goblin, Hob Goblin, Carnage, Doctor Octopus, Chameleon, King Pin, and Rhino.

Wolverine also, some of his enemies are: Silver Samurai, Juggernaut, Omega Red, Sabretooth, The Hulk, Magneto, Lady Death Strike, Shiva, Genesis, etc.

Batmans enemies: Bane, Two-Face, The Joker, The Riddler, Cat Woman, Mr.Freeze, Superman(sometimes), Clay Face, Killer Croc, and a ton more.

Ok yea thats about it, for now...

Herr Logan
Wizard magazine, in a special villains issue a few years ago, named Spider-Man the hero with the best villains. I tend to agree. Next is Batman and then the Flash, then X-Men. I think that's how it went.

venomfan
best wizard ever v. spidey has the best

eleveninches
Batman villains are SOOOOOOOOOOO gay (at least in the movies)

Joker (Gay)
Riddler (Gay)
Penguin (Gay)
two Face (Gay)

Ock
Yes I agree nobody has such an amazing array of villains as Spider-man.

Ock
I wouldnt call any of them gay.I'm not a fan of thr Riddler but the other 3 are cool.

Jason420
Joker:cool
Riddler:cool
Penguin:cool because he was the most powerful man in no mans land
Twoface:gay


2guns twoface

LeAtHerRFace
LoL didnt hear you mention Bane or Mr.Freeze. So I suspect you think they're cool.

Joker: Cool
Riddler: Cool
Penguin: Gay
Two Face: Gay
Bane: Cool
Catwoman: Cool
Mr.Freeze: Cool
etc.

Zephonim
How in the hell could anyone say Joker was gey in the first movie. Nicholsan was the ultimate bad guy performance of all time.
And to the other question, I think Spidey definatly has the best enemies, but Joker is my all time favorite villan. I love how he is evil like everyone else but does evil things in such twisted way. It was awesome in the first movie how he killed people and they died smiling. It was so wicked.

eleveninches
I didnt mean to imply that he was not a well performed bad guy, but he does look homosexual

kal-el
spidermans are so good because they're all pretty powerful, quite alot are just as strong as him which makes for really good fist fights. Scorpion for example is twice as strong and twice as fast(movement and reactions). Thats bloody powerful! Gobby is as crazy as the joker but with superhuman strength(nightmare!). Lizard is stronger than spidey and has bullet-proof skin, and can control reptiles in a mile radius. Electro, must be the most under-achieving villain ever. He can control and store up to a million volts(literally) of electricity!Really, he could kill almost anyone if you think about it. I mean, batman has hurt superman with massive electrical shocks, so presumably Electro could too.If you can hurt supes, you can almost hurt anyone!Then there's sandman who's indestructable and has 70tonne range strength(I think). Rhino= 80 tonne strength, 100mphspeed.
Theyre all absolute powerhouses but not too much like some of supes' villains. Spideys win by a country mile IMO.

kal-el
And I didnt even mention those lovely sociopath symbiotes - Carnage and Venom!

Zephonim
One of the best parts of Spider-Man's villans is how they not only affect Spidey, but many of them also affect Parker. Goblin is his best friend's dad, and then his best friend. Scorpion attacks a man Parker hates, but he is forced to protect him. The symbiote used to be with him, and it knows all his darkest fears. The villans for Spider-Man also have wicked deep stories. They all have pretty cool origins.

MarkofKaine
Definitely Spider-Man. Their abilities, storylines, character profiles...everything about them rocks.

Zephonim
Not only do they mess with him physically, but they mess with him mentally.

Gregory
Maybe the Spiderman forum wasn't the best place to go for an unbiased answer to this question?

Just a thought...

Herr Logan
That's enough out of you, kid.
Anyone who thinks he can spot a homosexual based on what he looks like is an intellectually inferior being.
Of all the people to label a homosexual, you chose a character who was ratted out due to his dalliances with his boss's woman and spent the rest of the movie in pursuit of another beautiful woman. This character, who twice shows his interest in the opposite sex, is played by Jack Nicholson, a notorious womanizer.
Where exactly is the gay part? Is it the purple suit? The pretentious nonsense about being an artiste? You're a moron. The purple suit and flamboyant behavior denotes insanity, not sexuality, and the "artiste" crap is part of the joke. Grow up, and learn to use the proper descriptive terms when writing and talking.
I'm not even going to try to explain to you how cowardly and intellectually bankrupt it is to be homophobic. That's something you're going to have to live with. Real manly, that attitude.

Zephonim
Even though I am biased towards Spider-Man villans, I have to admit that Brainiac from Superman is pretty sweet too. I HATE Superman, but Brainiac is pretty badass.

punkyhermy
i hate superman too!as for the bad guys,i have to go with BATS!!!all his vilans are cool and some are complex(catwoman!)

Madcap
Jesus, Everyone knows Ghost rider has the best enemies. MADCAP is his enemie, and that alone makes him instantly better than other heroes, let alone his other cool enimeis. or spawn. he has some good stuff.

VENOMfan
Venom is the best, altho his enimies get stomped by him. except Carnage

Red Superfly
Again, thats why I love Spiderman and Batman the most.

Spiderman: The Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Venom, Kaine, Vulture, Mysterio etc, all awesome.

However, I personally think that even though Spidey does indeed have the best long list of villains, I'd have to say the best all time villain has to be The Joker.

The Green Goblin comes close, as does Venom, but The Joker is the true super villain. I love it how, like Batman, he has no real super powers, but he's probably the most dangerous psychotic madman ever. Jack Nicholson played him brilliantly and he's the reason why the first Batman movie is the best comic-to-film ever. I also love the way Mark Hamill does his voice in EVERY cartoon version of the Joker yet. He's in Justice League, Static Shock and Batman providing that amazing Joker voice.

I am SO SICK of people thinking higher of "super powered" villains than the Joker.

Put it this way, if The Joker OR Batman had ANY super powers they would be TOO powerful and would both wipe the floor with any super hero or super villain. Think about that next time you yell "OMG joker is such a sUx0rz!!1111!!one!!!!eleven!111!!!"

In terms of writing a character (and not coming down to petty fanboy 13 year old power struggles) The Joker is pure gold (not to say Spideys bunch aren't, they rock too).

RebelPhoenix
OK, it's not a comic but when I read the question I automatically thought of: Xena vs Callisto. I know, I know, it may sound laughable to the set in stone giants such as spiderman, batman etc but hey it still counts and I think Callisto is an awesome villian big grin

or Sherlock and Professor Moriarty

ok forget it lol - I agree that Spiderman/Batman has all the greatest villains (just my opinion though)

MrReilly
So who would win out of the goblin or joker? ha ha ha ha ha...

Kes
Moving to Comic book movie discussion.
Moving--moved

headrek1
How about Doc Doom, from fantastic four, or Galactus, or Thanos?

ska57
Batman

Ra's al Ghul!
Joker
Mr. Freeze
Bane
Two-Face
Penguin
Poison Ivy
Riddler

Kontraz
what are you guys talking about????

OPTIMUS PRIME HAS THE GREATEST ENEMIES!!!!!

Megatron
Soundwave
Starscream
Thundercracker
Skywarp
Shockwave
Scorpinok
Unicron
Galvatron


The list could go on and on!!!!!

headrek1
Didn't read Red Superfly, before I wrote and I must agree, the Joker is one of the coolest villans, he's killed the second Robin, Paralyzed Barbra Gordon ( Original Batgirl), and killed the Comisssoners wife, he's even dealt death by nuke before, and Not only is he a maniac, but he's a genius at that, albeit a little misguided. Not even Gobby, who killed Gwen Stacy ( spidey's first true love), made cyborg imposters of the webhead's parents, and due to the curse of the Goblin caused the death of his best friend, harry. can compare to the negative impact Joker has had on Batman's life.

ska57
Same with Batman

Joker1237
I say Bats Bunch are tops, The 1960's show turn the major 4 Joker, Riddler, Penguin, and Catwoman, into major stars, They even team up in the 1966 movie to fight Batman and Robin. These 4 are tops, No other Villian of Batman's should be rated over these 4, and maybe even Spiderman's villians should be below these 4 too.

Joker is of couse tops. He is the best of all time, He does evil acts, that defie logic, I mean can you relly understand why he try to copy write fish?? Or why he killed his own goons just to prove a point?? Non of it makes sense, and even Batman does not know what Joker was up too even after he "Solve the case" He go back to the Bat Cave, and say something like I put Joker back in Arkham, but I still dont get it???

I think Batman's villians are tops, hands down, Even Bruce Timm said Batman had the best Gallrey in comics.

ska57
Agreed.

Alpha Centauri
Spider-Man fights geriatrics. He has some decent enemies but most of his best fights are cross-overs with other heroes.

Hulk fights some sickos but I think Fantastic Four have the best enemies.

Dr.Doom, Galactus, Annihilus, Mole-Man. Plus all the random events they have to get involved in.

-AC

who?-kid

ska57
Batman has the most recognizable villains though. If you approached an average person on the street and showed him/her a list of the 10 most popular villains of Spider-Man (or anyother superhero's) and then a list of Batman's, which one do you think they will know the most?

who?-kid
The thread is "Which hero do you think has the coolest enemies", not "Which hero do you think has the most known enemies".

I agree Batman has some superb enemies (Joker anyone ?), but compared to those of Spider-Man, they are not as cool.

But that's of course only my opinion.

Mav
Bah, Batman's enemies have much more depth, see Long Halloween, and Arkham Asylum.

Lenord
I have lately gone back to reading some old spider man comics and I realised something. Spider man villans can be some of the stupidest people alive in the comic book world. I mean the number of times that the villans have almost defeated spider man and then done something so stupid that a 10 year old would know not to do, it just pisses me off.

I dont know if this is just spider man (I am gessing it happens in all comic books) but the villans are really annoying me with thier incompetance at following through with thier plans. It always starts of well and near the end they do something stupid that is sometimes out of character. Lately I have been rooting for the villans (lets face it they could use the support), and finding myself annoyed at how the stories end.

One of these days I hove a villan smartens up and just puts a bullet in spider man when he is down instead of taking him back to his place for some chat and elaborate death trap, don't these people ever learn?

Punkyhermy
Batman.
Mr Freeze,Catwoman and Two-face are the most complex, 3-dimentional villans ever.You don't need superstrenght or be an alien to top the charts!

Alpha Centauri
"Spider-Man has the best enemies, for two reasons :

1. I'm a Spider-Man fan

2. Euhm, are there actually lots of villains he hasn't fought/beat up ? Sure, there probably are a few, here and there, but I think it's pretty safe to assume Spider-Man is one of the heroes who have faced the most villains (and still lives to tell it)."

Just one reason then...

I was refering to regular comics enemies. Not special appearances.

-AC

Ironman 66
batman sucks all together his arch rival is a ****ing clown

Ironman 66
spidey has way better enemies

LeAtHerRFace
Bats and Spiderman and Wolverine

Joker1237
A clown??? Just a CLown??? He has a sick sense of humor, He thinks killing is funny,. I saying Bats villians re number one, Because I a Bat fan, and the villians like the Batman himself are more human. I not into thso super freaks like Superman or Doomsday. I mean my fav Superman villian is either Lex(yes he is cool) and Braniniac. They both have deep, and they are cool imo.

Joker, He is driving to insane, by the death of his wife, and falling into the vat, and Now he finds out his wife is murder, and he is caseing the dirty cop who did it down, He is going to kill him not unless Batman stops him of couse. I not too sure about the story line though, But I givinig it a chance.

Red Claw from the TAS, She was cool, She was going to black mail the us, with that weapon she stole, but Batman and Catwoman stop her.

Clock King other cool villian.

The Riddler, What can you say, After 60 years and he ant out of Riddlers yet.

Mr Freeze, Forget Arnie, This Freeze's wife is dead, and he does crimes, and he is insane.

Posion Ivy, Cool, and Sexy, I did not like Ivy in Batman and Robin, Ruin the Ivy that I loved so much.

Scarcrow, I think TAS Scarecrow was better than the comics lol. But for a while he was up there with Joker as top villians.

Clayface, I still dont see how Batman can beat him?? I dont see how Spiderman can beat him?? I mean the guy can not die, knock him off a building and he lives, He can drown Batman in his clay, but we all know Bats.

Twoface, Jones ruin him in Batman forever, One of the best shows of TAS was Twoface one and 2. Chance, Choose if your born or not, If you live or Die, IF your good or bad, I loved that line, very cool villian.

The peguin is cool, In the comics, he is the Kingpin of Gotham, with out the might.

FireFly, He was all sum in knightfall, He and the Joker/Scarecrow, was the main cause of draining Batman down for Bane.

Zsasz, With he kill he cuts a scar into his skin, He might have a higher body count than the Joker, and thats saying something.

Ironman 66
he is just a ****ing clown he has no powers all he has is his insanity

Kontraz
joker is a really cool villain, and that the thing, he has no powers, yet he is SUCH a good villian, which only makes his appeal all the more. Kind of like how batman is a good hero, yet he has no powers (unless you consider bill gates as having super powers as well..)

Paola
the joker is great!!! rock

Asian Hulk
SUPERMAN VILLAINS
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Lex Luthor
Mercy Graves
Bizzaro
Mr.Mxyzptlk
Toyman
Maxima
Metallo
Brainiac
The Parasite
Live Wire
Steppenwolf
Volcana
Lobo

BATMAN VILLAINS
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Joker
Penguin
Riddler
Catwoman
Two-Face
Poison Ivy
Mr.Freeze
Clayface
Scarecrow
Ra Al Ghul
Harley Quinn
Mad Hatter

SPIDERMAN VILLAINS
-------------------------
Green Goblin
Dr.Octopus
Venom
Carnage
Manwolf
Scorpion
Kraven
Vulture
Mysterio
Black Tarantula
Tarantula

HULK VILLAINS
-----------------
Maj.Glenn Talbot
Leader
Abomination
Rhino
Ringmaster
Trauma
Zzzax
Armaggedon
Bi-Beast
Modok

Kontraz
bah, take out vulture and manwolf... those guys are jokes (despite vulture being spidy's first super-villain, he still sucks)

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