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why isn't anything aloud? no politics, no illgal things, pretty much anything with controversy. Shouldn't the Discussion boards be changed to random crap boards? Obviously some people can't control their rage or anger, so they lash out when someones opinion varies, but what's the point of discussion boards if you can't discuss stuff?

as pointed out earlier, linkalicious
we HAD a politics board, and it turned VERY nasty and people's feelings got hurt, so in order to prevent this from happening, the rule is that it's better to be safe than sorry: no politics allowed

and of course no illegal things! what? you want this place to close down? we follow the texan rules cause the server is there and that's something you can not go around by

i fail to see how discussing the positivies and negatives of smoking *** (u know the 3 letter) can't be discussed. It's legal in parts of the world....just not the US. I discussed this topic in grade school, yet it's not aloud here. I'm not arguing....IMO it's just kinda stupid. but everyone gets their own opinion right?

yeah so? like you said, it's illegal in the US; last I checked Texas was a state in the USA

and also do know that there children browsing this place

I should keep my mouth shut on this one.

if it's constructive to this discussion, you are always free to add your opinion

i still fail to see how discussing wether or not it should be legalized is wrong. It's discussion....not active participation in drug use.

I am suprised you were not allowed to discuss the legalizaton topic. I visit G rated sites that allow discussion about that.

I never saw said thread, nor am I a mod, but the idea is that if you're not happy with a decision you PM the mod/admin in question and ask for further context

too many smart words...

WE WON'T HAVE IT CUZ WE DON'T WANNA HAVE A MASACRE HERE.

done.

well thanks for your help yerssot...it's been helpful. I'm still going to wait til a mod reads this bad boy and gives me an answer regarding that.

or just pm the one that closed your thread and get it over with quicker

Link> we can't talk about ilegal substances because some ppl could make a case agains't KMC (even filed a lawsuit). Some ppl might take as far as saying "dealing illegal substances in the internet" Is better to avoid topics on drugs or illegal substances. Catching my drift?

Silverfighter-- no one can sue this site for things of that nature. Like I said, even G-rated sites allow debates over the legalization of drugs.

well, and apperently there was a pretty good reason to close it here

Yes they can, and is better not to discuss the usage of Illegal drugs at all!!

I have my own website. I know about these things. The G-rated site I spoke about is very strict on things and would not allow things that could get then in trouble. Debates on any issue are allowed, it isn't as if discussing why something should be legal is going be be considered dealing drugs. You can't get in trouble for just discussing things, if that were the case then tons of sites would be shut down. I mean i suppose anyone COULD get annoyed and file some suit against the site. For example, I might feel offended by the use of curse words around here or the sexual topics... but does that mean nothing of that nature should ever be said or discussed? No...

wether or not it is illegal doesnt really matter, the rules are in place for a reason, you sign up you agree to them that should be enough

So we should all blindly accept all rules without question? Um... no.

than you shouldn't have signed up striel
but you did, so you follow the rules, if you deceide at any point you don't like the rules, there's a sign out button

See, that is what I do not understand about some people. Have I ever once said that I was not happy with this site? No, I haven't. Today i broke a rule that I did not know existed. I said something unkind about the president, and I didn't even realize that political posts weren't allowed. Now I know. I won't do it again. But that doesn't mean that i cannot sit here, along with the person that started the post, to ask why some of these things are not allowed. It doesn't mean I hate the site, or that I am complaining. I am simply echoing the original posters question "why?"

Some of those topics could turn into a pro-use of illegal drugs. I don't mind them, but what if a reprensative of M.A.D.D. happens to visit KMC and reads something like that? She/He can make agains't KMC for allowing topics like drugs usage be permitted. Do you see what I mean now?

striel, scroll down and hit "forum rules"
you agreed with these when you sign up, meaning you should have READ them and know them

now, you didn't get banned for it, so you know the stuff now

No. It makes no sense. The lawsuit would be thrown out.

it's texas, everything can happen

We don't know that for sure Striel. The main point is that ppl like that could cause trouble for KMC and might be force to shut down temporarily. It's just better to be cautious with things like that.

The point is, anyone could cause trouble about ANYTHING. I could suit the owner of the site because I didn't like the way *insert any random example* is done here. Things like that are ridiculous. I am not bashing the site owner for their rules, I am simply telling you that your point is not a valid reason for these things not to be allowed.

it's very valid, and it's how it's done here
you just keep repeating the same thing while the RULES you agreed with clearly state otherwise

Sounds like someone REALLY wants to be a monitor here. :P

a monitor? like in a screen?
no, I already am a piece of software, like Tiny Tim

Striel what the hell does that have to do with anything, if you are going to continue to question every rule you have to follow in life you will end up in some kind of trouble later on

acceptance leads to happyness

happyness leads to bunnies

bunnies leads to ... ... dinner

Is this a cult? (yes I am TEASING dang it)

Fire-- I will continue to question things as I see fit. I am not hurting anyone, and I am not intending harm.

yessot-- monitor-- as in Site moderator/monitor. And I was joking.

acceptance leads to happyness is an asian saying, which I find very true


and Striel by all means question what ever you want to question I dont care I just think you will come out more annoyed or sometimes even saddened than before

so was I... about the bunnies... breakfast is good too

No, It is just in my personality not to blindly accept things. Sometimes questioning things brings about change. And if it doesn't, it at least allows those in charge to know that not everyone understands their reasoning.

you can briefly mention that you dont have to keep going on and on about it, indeed sometimes questioning things brings about change, but not always ppl also have to accept that there are things in life they can not change, and even things they can not change and can not be questioned

Maybe, but that doesn't apply to this situation. Even if the site moderator won't change his/her views abotu allowing certain things to be discussed, the originator of this post had the nerve to question them about why it isn't allowed. I came in, saw that, and as I said a few comments back, I am simply echoing their question. So, in effect, this IS something that COULD be changed, and HAS been questioned.

It could indeed be changed, but it will mostlikely not be changed and if it is changed it will not be because of some members nagging about it.
I wasn't really talking about this thread when I said there are things that can not be changed and can not be questioned.

so all this is doing now is taking up space, anywayz it wont result in anything anywayz, heck the why has already been answered

Politics and Religion) because it almost always creates trouble.
Porn and illegal stuff like drugs) because we could get in trouble with the law for this.


I know you dont agree with that whole law thingy but I dont think raz or any moderator wants to test it, most members are glad they dont test it

Each message board I have visited has some form of rules that you have to follow...

The age limit for this site is 13+...I see no reason to talk about drugs and sexual stuff--IMO

This site has a PG-13 rating

Raz is just trying to keep this place from going to hell--and I believe Raz is doing a damn good job of keeping KMC up and running---Plus the moderators that help Raz keep this place in good shape---

well said Shoukan

I am not trying to be rude here, but do a search on Google for the the drug issue. You can find reports people did for school, news sites, epinion.com posts, a history channel article on the topic, and this post: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-18701 There is no way the owner of the site can get in any trouble for talking about this issue. If for some reason he/she just simply doesn't want anything about it on the site, then fine, but using the excuse that he/she could get in legal trouble is not realistic.

This site: http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com has people under the age of 13, and even they realize that debating about a topic such as that is not going to hurt anyone.

I am not trying to start trouble, I am just proving a point.

well that is what they have told me, I'm not a lawyer or anything. that could also be the reason, anyway I believe them more than I believe you. and well then lets assume raz just doesnt want drugs and all that stuff on his forum, there you have your why's

it might very well be that other sites allow those discussion at KMC they aren't allowed

can you please try not to make this sound like 1984, Big Brother.

1st. Striel...sorry to leave you hanging while i went to lunch and you went 2 on 1 with these guys.

2nd. As per my last statement before the one above this. I think I'll wait and talk to a MOD about this. Thanks Fire and Yerss again for your input. It has given me some insight as to the way things go.

My question from my original posts still stand...But only to mod's.

*and before any of you fly off the handle at me. I AM happy with the site, i'm not complaining....i'm questioning. From my experiences...all the mods are great guys/girls and i'm not here to step on toes. I just don't understand why sex and vulgarity is acceptable on this site, but not the issue of discussing marijuana legalization.

djee, link, about your first point, wtf??? two against one? what you think we're doing here? kickboxing???

sex is also not allowed her, if you point a thread about it to a mod, (s)he'll close it

Which thread are you talking about?

The one Striel referenced is open, so I don't see the problem.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-18701

*does a little dance*


hehe

Why did you think it was closed?

perhaps it was thrown to the second page?

I didn't. I was showing them that you did have things like that on the site, and they said you didn't allow posts of that nature because you could get into legal trouble.

you get awful excited when it comes to discussion there yers. Obviously u know i wasn't talking about kickboxing. What i was talking about is the fact that i started the discussion and kinda ducked out for lunch only to see what a debocale (sp?) this has become.

yeah, it was tai-bo
you said two to one, like fire and I were out to lynch striel or you

Talking about the pros and cons is fine. Promoting is a no-no

no i said 2 on 1 as in...You and fire are against the idea of questioning rules and the general structure of the site, and myself and Striel feel that questioning (not belittling) the rules of the site was ok...being that this is a Questions forum. At no point would i assume either of you to be picking on her. You just had 2 opinons for every 1 she shared. hence the reason i said 2 on 1.

than I misunderstood, sorry

Of course the promotion of doing illegal drugs wrong Raz. And in every forum that i've discussed (not promoted) the use of marijuana. You sited somthing about nothing of illegal nature on the site, it being a no-no, you guys possibly being shut down, and that i need to read the rules.

But i have read the rules. The closest material that relates to this topic that i could find is this



But discussing marijuana use does not violate applicable law....i do however agree that anyone promoting drug use is violating such rules.

Like I said, talking about it is fine. I never said it was prohibited.

no real need to apologize...but thank you anyways. I hope i've made it clear that i, in no way, intend to offend or anger any of you guys that are posting. I have the utmost respect for Yers, Fire, and Raz....as well as all members on this site. thanks for your time guys.

I didnt start by saying that conversation about drugs was illegal, that was someone else I always thought it was weird other things are mostly true, and I wouldn't start flooding the forum with threads about drugs just yet, some mod might get annoyed

yeah....i never started any of the drug related threads, i just go in them and speak my opinions

Hey, I'm a moderator! Now I get to say what I think and alert this thread to the big man himself so he can tell you why this and why that.

Political and Religious topics are banned cause there always ends up some huge goddamn argument that everyone gets made and lots of bashing and swearing and whatnot.

Illegal things are illegal, so duh! Pro-pot threads are closed. Debating the legalization of drugs is different since it is an honest question rather than, "Pot is great," which it is not. Plus, kids read KMC, and it could...influence them, if you catch my drift.

Same reason why porn isn't around here.

And it's not a G-rated forum if you talk about drugs, Striel. Movies are rated PG-13 or R for including drug reference, depending on the reference. G-rated movies are for little six-year-olds.

Oops! Didn't see that this had two pages, so ignore my rambling if you so choose.

Captain Rex, it is a G rated forum. They have very strict rules, but they do have a debate section, and they allow debates about religion, politics and even debates about whether or not drugs should be legalized. *gasp*

I don't think you guys have any clue about the difference between debating an issue and actually promoting a product.

err... he's a mod, y'know...

Errr.. This IS debating.
Raz DID say that he did not have a problem with drun leagalization discussions, but when it gets out of hand nad turns into a Pot is good or whatever, then It gets closed.

Also Raz wants to keep this a positive environment. If we start a big political/religious dicussion, It could and has very quickly become a Bash-fest. Then Other people take this bashing thing into other forums and it degrades the site.

a G rated forum with discussions about drugs well why not I guess, I personaly wouldn't consider it to be very healthy

And why should that matter to me? I wasn't being rude.


And I am not trying to drag this out, I'll leave this discussion alone now