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it's ok-ish

I do. Less stupid humour...less stupid effects...better story...better nastier villains...better hard edged violence...

And a fairly decent cast for once...Robert Davi...Anthony Zerbe...Benicio Del Torro...Cary Lowell...and the return of the REAL Felix Leiter.

The Redeemer rates ALTK a fairly respectable 7/10.

technically Jack Lord is that (Dr No)

I see you didn't mention Timothy Dalton??

Nah. David Hedson IS Felix Leiter!!

Timothy who???

hey come on! Dalton had to give Bond the fresh new start after Moore killed it off!

its the only bond film which doesn't feel like a bond film, but instead feels like a cross between a rejected version of die hard, mixed with a Joel Schumacher movie.

ever saw On Her Majesties Secret Service?

Or GOLDENEYE?

but everyone likes that one

There's no accounting for taste!

there is ... my taste is the best

I like License ( or Licence)To Kill. I think that Timothy Dalton got a bum rap. He wasn't out of favor with the producer's family, as he was one of the pallbearers at Cubby Broccolli's funeral. I don't think any other of the actors that portrayed Bond did that. Actually, both of Dalton's movies were strangely contemporary, especially The Living Daylights. If LTK had come out in October of 1989 instead of the summer, it would have coincided with the real ouster of Noriega in Panama, who the Robert Davi character seemed to be patterned after. In the Living Daylights Bond helps the Mujahadin; if they did a Bond film now in Afghanistan the character might be fighting the Cameron Shah character instead of helping him.

^ you seem to know a lot about Bond

Ok, so, which is this the one with Mariam Dabbo (spelling? ) and Timothy Dalton?
I don't remember

that's the trick with older movies huh? knowing what exactly happens around them that makes them do that movie.

Moonraker's scene where they shoot in space and such is just because Star Wars two years earlier was a hit, knowing that you get why they were keen to do that

THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS Utter crap, BTW!

Awwww, why, I enjoyed it

I have liked the James Bond series since I was old enough to see movies
with "mature" themes. I've seen all of them, with the exception of "Never Say Never Again," which I can't get interested in, and I've just seen bits and pieces of "Golden Eye." We all have our favorites, obviously, based on our own interests and opinions of what makes a good movie. I remember that "License To Kill" was criticized because it was too realistic, and the Roger Moore movies got too "cartoonish." I like the Living Daylights, I think that you could substitute any of the other "Bonds" into it, and it would have maintained its integrity. It was creative, had the typical "Bond" off the walls stuff, like sledding on the snow on a viola case, also had the requisite megalomaniac, and psycho henchman. "License To Kill" also had the megalomaniac(Robert Davi)
and psycho killer(Benicio Del Toro{sp?}) It was rather dark, which is why I think some people didn't like it. Bond always had gruesome stuff, like feeding people to piranhas, but usually wasn't graphic and usually had some black humor( the first tongue in cheek "Bondism" I remember was George Lazenby, when one of the bad guys was run over by a snow machine, when he nonchalantly replied "He had alot of guts." Roger Moore was the best at the tongue and cheek stuff, I think, because he delivered lines with a twinkle in his eye. Connery did it well, too, but he said it just like he would say "how do you do?" (best ex: scene where he was trapped on dance floor by evil Bond woman, and she was trying to set him up so the henchmen could shoot him-of course, he managed to get her in the line of fire, and when he was leaving the dance floor with her limp, lifeless body, he told another tourist that she was "dead on her feet" I think that was one of the things that Timothy Dalton did not do as well, but he did not get very much time to practice it either. I haven't really gotten to see Pierce Brosnan enough, but I think he comes off as rather wry.

Also, Evy, is that a Gaelic quote in your replies?

to be nitpicker... connery said "She's just dead" and not "She's dead on her feet"

Well, I just liked the way connery said it; and I really believe that Moore made it worse with that "cartoonish" thing

I loved it!!!!

Let us know why

and step on it

we scared him/her away

or the poster is just barely active

Unlike me!!!

or evy

Or "Y"ou!

clever TR... you should write Bonds lines

As Richard Pryor says in SILVER STREAK..."We's aim to please!!!"

...said bond after shooting someone?

see! you should do the writing

I'll do the acting

At least you'd be better than Orlando......

I almost feel honored, but its' not difficult

but the looks

Who liked Licence to Kill? was the original question.

My answer:

I do! Not one of the best Bond's produced, but certainly one of the best written. And it draws back to classic Bond where Bond engages in dark and sinister devices, this time against a world-wide drug cartel. Sanchez is the perfect Bond villain. He's egotistic, ruthless, self-centered and greedy. All the elements that make the perfect Bond villain. And I enjoyed the scenes with Wayne Newton as Prof. Joe Butcher.

FYI fact: Wayne Newton practically begged to be in the film. He had been a fan of the James Bond films for as long as he could remember. In the Behind-the-scenes featurette on the DVD, he says exactly that.

hmmm, but bond and drugs... it's a bit weird

Not quite, Y! The poppy fields in LALD were full of them!!!

they were poppies, not drugs

So Mr Big would have you beleive!

he was always full of bull

That's Torro!

and Scaramanga

Nice one!!!

with only one shot TR

And worth a million quid...

I wonder how much the bullets cost

Well...they ARE gold...so quite expensive I would imagine!

and only what? 5 or 6 at a time?

I think they came in a pack of twenty!

21 in 2005 even

You lost me there, old boy!

you said in a package of 20... as in... there are 20 bond movies

I was refering to a pack of cigarettes, Y. As in the Bottoms Up club where Ms Anders collected them.

I don't smoke, so I couldn't know

Reborn Again> I agree about Sanchez, I liked him as the bad guy

Smoking: nono

Bond smokes

and he's still the same age as he was in '62...wonderful thing those ciggies...

it's the cig taht does it??? darn it! *throws away wodka-martini, shaken not stirred of course*

Bond is so naughty

the lucky sonnamabitch

no, bondgirls are lucky

to have a 50 year old?

THAT 50 year old?

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~prospero/images/screenshot/twine2.jpg

YES!!!

and now he has to do his hair

like anyone cares

I would! a bond with grey hair

I don't really mind

I would, but if he slipped me an early christmas I wouldn't mind

C'mon, Y! He HAS been around since '62...!!!

but the wodka-Martinis make him young

Nah...it's the brand he smokes...corporate greed...

courtesy of universal exports

Nice one, Y!

I feel they should use that more often

Nah...ACME would be better...just like in those old Road Runner cartoons..Meep!!! Meep!!!

what could they export than? Dynamite?

Or anything else Will E Coyote threw at him!!!

and be known as a bad export-company?

Poor old Will E...WILL he ever catch that damn...er, what species IS a Road Runner?

I know it in dutch... I think

have they ever shown the symbol of universal exports?

my opiniom, Timothy Dolton had the great appearence for a james bond but lacked as an actor and attitude....

License to Kill did suck and after waiting so long for Living Daylights to come out on DVD I was rather dissapointed with the actual film...

in logic, how about comparing Timothy with "actual" bond - sean connery.

Discos - has spoken,

Timothy Dalton was ok-ish imho, he just portrayed JB too seriously, hardly ever laughing JB is supposed to be a houmorous guy... but without overdoing it, like Roger Moore

lol roger was a class act though....

in britain the BBFC (i think), made it a 15 meaning only people 15 years or older could watch it....the only bond film to ever of done that, up till License to Kill they were all PG (parental guidence...bassically for anyone)

well, imho, evy is right, Timothy played a very serious bond, icecold and all. And imo, that was desperatly needed after turning Bond into a rediculous comedy thanks (to some extend) to Roger Moore.

They all had their good points, but for Moore its harder to find them (and Lazenby)

You are indeed right, D...and not only was LTK classified 15 but it was also cut...although the version now out on disc is totally uncut.

what was cut out?
(sorry, but there is not a single dvd of the "oldies" out here)

Talisa Sotto being whipped lost quite a bit...thankfully...Felix being fed to the shark...Anthony Zerbe's head exploding...and a bit of Robert Davi on fire...

They were only minor cuts mind, mere seconds...with the exception of the whipping...

weird, I remember an explicit Felix being fed part

hmm, I'm almost up to Dalton in rewatching

Is the Belgian version the same as the British BBFC one?

we don't have a rating that's about people being 15

it's "all", "12", "16" and 18" I think

Then I doubt the version in Belgium was cut.

dunno, they're never keen on showing such stuff here, but I'll rewatch it pretty soon and report in

yeah, I'm always right actually I DID like Dalton even though he was serious, and didn't really mind Moore

it wasn't cut here either me thinks

only in america and ireland than you twats

Actually Ireland and Britian...the versions we get here are the same as Britian...seemingly the market here is too small to repress prints and put bits back in or even take bits out...the Irish film censor gave up cutting films twenty or more years ago...he realised it was a lost cause with the advent of video and satellite tv...now he just bans the odd extreme one just to justify his job...

didn't want to generalise with Britain

erm, well i think its mainyldue to some swearing it became a "15"

Discos - he was simply too much pissed off

not only that, but the feeding and the whip are pretty visual to be 12 (well, my rating)

It was so-so but the ninja fight was the stupidest thing ever to have happened in a bond film except for when he fought the Sumos in TMWTGG.

it was depressing. those sharkes and everything

Originally posted by Etrigan
It was so-so but the ninja fight was the stupidest thing ever to have happened in a bond film except for when he fought the Sumos in TMWTGG.
what about Bambi and Stamper?

bambi? the disney's bambi? cry

no

i don't know other one

DAF... Diamonds Are Forever... when Bond is going to find Whyte...

i don't remember it.

I can't blaim you

tx

but I can change that still

no need for that

I will

don't bother yourself

damn straight

i know

damn gay?

not me

neither is LTK

coz it was taken away from him

but he got them right back

not that right...it took some time..(about almost whole movie that is)

he took Sanchez pace

what's that?

coke

and used it?

but of course, at least his accomplice did

who is that?

Truman-Lodge

and now in the way i'll understand

which way?

simplier one

you liked him?

bond? yes.
the other guy i'm not sure who is it

the movie I ment

oh... it was ok.

just ok? cry

very ok?

Very controversial for 1989, but it's one my fav's. Lotsa action!

and has the best theme of all: revenge

but it is not a good reason.

for a movie, it's perfect

indeed. but for life it isn't

Originally posted by yerssot
what about Bambi and Stamper?

Bambi and stamper??? Choice!!! That's one to remember for future ref!!! I bow to your Bondian knowledge once again, old boy...

how come I suddenly am less sure that I named that girl right?

It's Bambi and Thumper.

hey, close enough for me