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I have a few questions about Superman. Can Superman fly into the Sun and just hang out? Can anything harm Superman other then the Big K?
Can anything cut Supermans skin? Could Superman burn down an entire forest from Space? How strong is he, I know he can move plenets, thats pretty strong! But I'am pondering about the maximum extent of his powers. Anyone care to comment?

superman skinn has been cut yes. and no superman can't breath in space and he also can't just sit infront of the sun

Not infront, in the sun. He bathes in it, do not talk about things you have no idea about.

Whoops, that would conclude to you not talking. But that's cool too, don't ****ing post anything ever again.

How did Superman get his skin cut? More importantly how fast did he rejuvanate?

I believe his rejuvanating powers are slim at best, but it's pretty rare for him to be cut, unless it involves magic or kryptonite.

Pre-crisis he could move planets - bathe in the sun, travel faster than light and travel through space without breathing etc. His hearing was so good that I once read he heard someone in trouble from 250 miles away! These days since the crisis they've not limited his powers as such, but have stopped him doing such outrageously powerful things.I think that they want to leave it open so they can show him do something unbeleivable in the future.He's not as fast thats for sure and he can be cut by Doomsday's bone protrusions(coz Doomsday's at least as invulnerable as supes) and point blank massive explosions can also break his skin.and he can hold his breath for very long but would need breathing apparatus in space for example. With regard to his heat vision, it seems to have more range these days. Meaning that rather than just a beam of heat, he can fire short, sharp blasts for example. These days he can see 1000 miles into the distance, not sure how far he could see before. His strength is still up there with the strongest of them I would venture to say and it seems the writers want readers to believe that Kal doesnt know the full extent of his powers coz he tries so hard to control them. He obviously came to his limits fighting doomsday but we don't know the exact limits of that particular incarnation of doomsday, so it still leaves the 'unknown factor' about his limits. I doubt DC would dare publish any limits to his powers coz they want to leave options open. I reckon he can lift in excess of 1million tonnes on a really good day, but I've no idea what weighs a million tonnes to be honest. I have read about him lifting an entire submarine with what looked like extreme ease and a sub weighs about 30,000 tonnes or something, so it's def way more than that IMO.

no doomday has cut him and also lobo. hulk also has. spiderman has. he nto uncutable also I find it ahr dto belive superman could stand right in the middle of the sun first off his space siut would be destroyed and he cant breath in space

It's because you have absolutely no idea of his powers, his abilities, and the origin of these. **** off with your useless replies in this topic, not only do they make no sense, they reek of bullshit.

I mean, honestly, what in the world can Spiderman do to cut Superman. Doomsday killed him, however, cuts and what-have-you would have appeared, and been inflicted after his solar reserves were depleted, once this happens his invulnerability is no longer existant. And I realise theoretically he is not invulnerable, but it is one of his abilities. Makes of that what you will.

I don't know if he could anymore(stand in sun) but he use to pre-crisis days. What space suit?. Are you talking about the one he wears in the cartoon or something?He cant breathe in space you're right, but he can hold his breath for ages. Im sure that the sun isn't hot enough to melt his body though.

He's heat-resistant, while I do not believe he could stay in the sun forever, he could stay in there.

Yeah-deffo agreed! He won't ever leave the kitchen if it gets too hot!

i dont want to apply real life physics to a comic book...however, heat is not the most powerful characteristic of the Sun, Gravity is, the sun has enough gravity to hold all of our planets in orbit...that means that someone flying through would be exposing themselves to some unbelievable forces...if Superman were strong enough to fly through the gravitational fields present at the center of the sun (much more impressive than taking a punch from doomsday) he would also be able to easily bench press the planet earth....if this is the case he is just too powerful to be interesting...and i dont think getting punched by doomsday would have been enough to kill him either...

Well since real world physics do not apply; Your arguement has no meaning. I'm not trying to insult you here, but real world physics haven't exactly been an issue in many things comic book related, and while they have in certain circumstances, I've never heard anything about the gravity of the sun preventing him access.

Infact, comparing the gravity of the Sun, and the strength required to get into it to bench pressing the Earth isn't exactly valid. I've never seen anything that suggests this is the force required.

The maddening thing about physics in the comic book universe is that they do not apply real world physics on a consistent basis. In JLA #2 Flash mentions that mass increases exponentially towards infinity as one approaches the speed of light and used this knowledge to punch - and I do mean PUNCH - that alien speedster.

Then you have Superman creating sonic booms and shattering windows if he flies by quickly enough.

Aurora, for example, is limited to a certain speed considering it would wreak considerable havoc on her as well as the environment (they same the same thing about Flash).

They should either take it into consideration on a consistent basis or...I dunno...

wait superman brobly coudl survive the sun cuz dident in new x-men wolverine went in to the sun and lived

You cant really say that just coz a DD punch can kill him, it instantly means he isn't that strong.It could be that he is and so is Doomsday. We dont know that he can't bench the Earth either but dont aplly real physics, you'll drive yourself insane! You should read 'the science of superheros' though. You'll prob find it funny if you're a science buff. I did, it makes scientological mince meat out of all you're fave heroes but it's damn funny.

My thoughts too, I hope I made it clear that this is the case, and they're not consistently enforced in the comic book world, rather than none at all. They should either do it, or not, after all, comics are just fantasy, and while I think certain things should be taken into account, it's not the real world so they should have different physics? I have no idea what I'm trying to say here.

Wolverine went into the sun?

LMFAO!

It can still count as science fiction therefore. H.G. Wells 'Time Machine' -considered one of the greatest works of sci-fi but it was still time travel- which aint never gonna happen.

See what I mean (I already know who wrote it)?

Magneto (Xorn) SET Jean Grey and Wolverine up and sent them both hurtling towards the sun. Wolverine DIED, for all intents and purposes. Jean Grey is still experimenting with the Phoenix Force on a molecular level.

SHE reconstructed Wolverine, and I can write the exact words if you like.

His healing factor did NOT do it.

That was an incredibly stupid statement. Wolverine can not withstand super, hot, solar fusion from the sun. I think that the other post about Jean grey having everything to doing with Wolverine being reconstructed from a molecular level is the only reason he woud be still around. Superman on the other hand I believe is able to fly into the sun, meditate for a while then fly out with no problems feeling energized.

I went into the sun the other day.Took the family, we had a barecue, a few beers. It was nice

What kind of sun screen did you bring!

it better of been better then 15 or ur goign to be quite burnt

Oh.....it was that new one........erm..............oh yeah Nivea - factor 1000,000 for my girl but I'm a tough man!I used 100,000

lol was ur ride there a shitty old rocket or those sweet new ones

dam u lucky bastered. did u stop at the mall on the moon on the way there

Thinking about Wolverine flying toward the sun is pretty funny to picture in my mind. Wolverine would get vaoprized before he got past Venus...hah

it already happened and he survived dotn ask me how thou they found his skeleton and he rehealed him self in the new x-men

HIS SKELETON, survived it, And jean grey reanimated him from his admantium, Damnit, didnt you read the "All knowing" Never's post... *cough* sarcasim *cough*
As for the extent of superman's power...
DC CHARACTER BUILDING STUDIO.
2:30 AM.
"Dude... We have to make this new hero by 8 or were gonna get axed..." Some guy.
"I know I KNOW but making a hero is hard!" Some guy 2
"Yea, well, were gonna have to think, or were fired... How about a fast runner?" Some guy 3.
"No, theres the flash" Some guy 2
"Yup" some guy 1
"Dangit..." Some guy 3
"Well..."
"Since were gonna get fired... lets PULL OUT DA BEER!" Some guy 1
After drinking, LOTS, 5:30 am.
"OK OK OK... U MAKE DUHHHH COSTUME..." Some guy 1
"Yup! We make him... dis... He get super strong! And... We give him all this crap... Laser eyes... And see through eyes... Make him so cheap ass that... Even hulk cant beat him!" Some guy 3
"Thats marvel! Bizzzzaaaaatttchhh!" Some guy 2
"Sooooo?" Some guy 3

My point being, Is, Superman was just some hero, that was thought up in like 5 minutes by a group of stupid japanese drunks. "Lets make flashy lights, and bright colors that give people seuizures come out of his eyes!"
Hes the cheapest hero in the books, and they thought him up in like 10 minutes before a board meeting. So, I wouldnt be surprises if he could walk in the sun and have sex with the burning hot gas itself.

I already stated I wasent sure I never read tat comic I saw in a preview lol

Wrong, idiot.

He was never DEAD so she could not "reanimate him." He looked like he was going through "explosive decompression."

Phoenix: "Did your eyes grow back yet?"

Logan: "I dunno. What am I supposed to be lookin' at? Jeannie? What did you just do? I was on fire..." <----- ON FIRE. Did not melt and certainly was not DEAD.

Phoenix: "...total telekinetic control of matter at the molecular level."

Did I not mention that when I said:



But I would not know this if I "don't even have any comic books," now would I?

Isn't the sun the source of Superman's powers? And he lived in it durring DC 1000000, so evidently it doesn't hurt him. Which begs the question ... if he needs air to survive, how could he have lived in the sun?

Incidently, maybe people should just stop replying to wolverine888? I don't want to be inhospitable, but I'm getting sick of him turning every other thread into a discussion of Wolverine's alleged invulnerability.

gregory first off in thsi thread I dident start it some one was bad melthing wolverine so I answered. also superman needs air to live also when has he ever lived in the sun

neevr I read ur comment and u ahve proof and every thing. That was a perfect comment

never I ment

Superman or Superman Prime...? I know Superman Prime "hibernated" in the sun for a good LONG while - Superman did it also in DC 1,000,000?

Think it was Superman Prime only, who...argh, does not exist in current DC continuity...

wynndar, i just wanted to say that i appreciated your post. although physics is seldom applied in comic books, i believe they should really put a standard in including it so we could have a lot more variables to measure the abilities of the comic book characters.

Originally posted by SuperNova
HIS SKELETON, survived it, And jean grey reanimated him from his admantium, Damnit, didnt you read the "All knowing" Never's post... *cough* sarcasim *cough*
As for the extent of superman's power...
DC CHARACTER BUILDING STUDIO.
2:30 AM.
"Dude... We have to make this new hero by 8 or were gonna get axed..." Some guy.
"I know I KNOW but making a hero is hard!" Some guy 2
"Yea, well, were gonna have to think, or were fired... How about a fast runner?" Some guy 3.
"No, theres the flash" Some guy 2
"Yup" some guy 1
"Dangit..." Some guy 3
"Well..."
"Since were gonna get fired... lets PULL OUT DA BEER!" Some guy 1
After drinking, LOTS, 5:30 am.
"OK OK OK... U MAKE DUHHHH COSTUME..." Some guy 1
"Yup! We make him... dis... He get super strong! And... We give him all this crap... Laser eyes... And see through eyes... Make him so cheap ass that... Even hulk cant beat him!" Some guy 3
"Thats marvel! Bizzzzaaaaatttchhh!" Some guy 2
"Sooooo?" Some guy 3

This is the funniest thing ive ever seen...but i agree

Thanks Frothbyte....and did u hear what wolverine8888 said about wolverine going in the sun...it sounded like something someone one would say impersonating wolverine8888

dude u a dick. first off it happen. I never read it but I saw that dam preview ask never if u want. I coudl care less what a person who states a lot of shti but has no prove on any of it says

Hey... I dont like wolverine8888 either.... But hes only defending his favorite hero... Ya cant get mad at the guy...
He defends him a litte too much... I know... But... still....
Wolv, if someone bad mouths wolverine, let it sit a while, and see who else, backs him up.
Plus, no one bad mouthed him, Your the one who brought up that wolverine lived in the sun, so could superman.
SUPERMAN IS JUST AN OVERATED *****,
Some drunk guys came up with him in like 5 minutes, I mean, he has every power in the book...
"Its a bird!"
"Its a plane!"
"No, Its super-man!"
*splat* "EWWWW"
"Nope... Sorry... .Its a bird."

true lol but I sware that was in a comic he like float into the sun I never got why thou. then they found wolverien skeleton he like ehaled back up but that only what i saw ina preveiw of it in new x-men. thank u super nova

Does anyone think that Superman is strong enough to fly right threw the moon, meaning flying as fast as he could and smashing into one side of the moon and blasting out the otherside?

I did not read the issue where Wolverine "died" on the sun. Nonetheless, if you believe he completely healed by himself (with nothing but his skeleton)... you are extremely stupid.

Wolverine888, can Wolverine survive in the sun with no space suit? Will he be able to breath out in space? Can he instantly heal himself after flying into the sun and being incenerated down to the bone? What if his brain is burnt in the process, can he rejuvanate his brain? What in your opinion is the limits of Wolverines healing effects? I jsut want to hear what your thoughts are on this. Becuase I know in no way he could handle a superblow from Superman at super speed, and jus get up and brush the dirt off his shoulders.

I don't think he's going to answer your question right away. I read somewhere that he is going away for a while. Maybe back to school, I don't know. I hope it's for a long while. clap youpi clapping

a couple of things have to be said. 1 superman CAN set in front of the sun in the son for any length of time that he desires. this is after all the source of his power. his is in a sense, a solar powered "battery". But it has to be a yellow sun for him to do this. a red sun will not provide him any with any energy whatso ever, he would eventually become like you and i. so it depends on what you want to define as "set in front of the sun". what kind is it??? also, his skin has been cut yet. but a couple of things have to happen first. 1) you have to be strong enough to do it 2) you have to have an object sharp enough to do it 3) you have to have the object Be of extremely strong material, and 4) you have to wear donw on his energy reserves before doing so.

In other words, be Doomsday!The only thing I didnt think made sense was that DD beat superman in daylight.I assumed the sun speeds up his already fast healing. If the battle went into the night, supes dying would have made alot more sense!

well doomsday, is kryptonian also.......... so theoretically he has all the reserves that superman has. also his other abilities to adapt, or regenerate stronger than that which killed him.

in the hunter/prey fight, doomsday litterally laughs at superman for leaving the fight. not to say that it was the wrong thing to do. superman was totally trashed the second time around.

Yeah, I've got hunter-prey. DD even breaks Supes' arm.Supes' reaction:' I didn't think anyone could break my arm!'.

i liked the first fight/fights much better, the death of superman. it was much better graphically, and written better too. how many times has superman and doomsday fought? maybe you could help me out. as i am a bigger fan of marvel than dc. i read that the jla, mainly Martian manhunter went up against doomsday is the one i want to know about. i didn't know there was a clash besides the 2 that i already have

Well it is known that supes dumped doomsday on his Ass at one time(aprt from the first time) but I can't find it anywhere.Maybe if someone with more comics than me could intervene and help us coz I too would like to knoe details of the 'other' encounter. Never, maybe if you see this, you could. You got truck loads of comics I hear.I've only got cars full of them.

No he can't now but pre-crisis he certainly did.

I didn't call you any names my Portuguese Friend, and I don't intend to. Pre-crisis means before they recreated him basically.In..............1986 they restarted his origin and he was powered down so he wasn't so unbeatable. The comic was starting to lose readers as a result of superman's power. So they started again but made him slightly less formidable.

thank you.

You call someone an idiot when you yourself fail to recognize the most obvious piece of sarcasm/hyperbole I have ever seen. Nice.

I was joking also...

The Moral: Irony doesn't always come accross on the internet.

can you kick someone off these messageboards *coughwolverinecough*

Well you speed is wrong, Super man is much faster than that i mean he moves about as fast as the flash which is speed of light (180000 miles pre a second). I mean in one comic they raced from one end of the Universe and back.

Superman can't approach the full speed of light, can fly at 1% of lightspeed, actually, he's not fast as the flash.

very true, it's been known Supes can't move at full speed of light. That's why Flash is faster--don't argue about it, tha'ts what DC says.

I just posted what the site said.

moving to Superman forum...

I know he cant move light speed but out of the 3 times him and the Flash raced they tied twice and Flash one once.

ok some people need to get there facts straight about supermans man power.

Superman's Super-Powers

Super-Speed and Flight | Super-Strength | Invulnerability | X-Ray Vision | Super-Hearing | Super-Breath | Vocal Powers | Super-Intellect | Miscellaneous
See also Photonucleic Effect, The

The super-powers of the man of steel are legendary - the whole world marvels at his invulnerability, super-speed, super-strength, and other super-skills!




Derivation of the Super-Powers
Superman's super-powers are by and large, extraordinary magnifications of ordinary human abilities. Just as an ordinary man can hurl a baseball, Superman can hurl an entire Planet. Just as an ordinary man can see across the room, Superman can see across the universe.
Compared with the powers he possesses today, however, the powers employed by Superman in the early texts are modest indeed. Action Comics # 1 (1938), the first comic book in which Superman appeared, claimed only that its hero could "leap 1/8th of a mile; hurdle a twenty-story building... raise tremendous weights... run faster than an express train... and that nothing less than a bursting shell could penetrate his skin!"

As the years passed, however, the chroniclers endowed the Man of Steel with ever more spectacular powers to enable him to meet ever more exacting challenges. Today Superman can withstand the heat at the core of the sun, soar through the air at a speed thousands of times the speed of light, and extinguish a star with a puff of his breath as though it were merely a candle on a birthday cake.

Along with a steady expansion of Superman's powers has come a series of changing explanations of how he came to acquire those powers. Action Comics # 1, for example, contains this scientific explanation of his amazing strength:


Kent had come from a Planet whose inhabitants' physical structure was millions of years advanced of our own. Upon reaching maturity, the people of his race became gifted with titanic strength!
Incredible? No! For even today on our world exist creatures with super-strength!

The lowly ant can support weights hundreds of times its own. The grasshopper leaps what to a man would be the space of several city blocks.

(see 1939 scientific explanation)
For approximately the first decade of Superman's career, the texts advanced the thesis that Superman's powers were merely those possessed by all the inhabitants of his native Planet. These texts described the men and women of Krypton as a "super-race" who were gifted with X-ray vision and other powers and who were thousands of eons ahead of earthlings, both mentally and physically.

By the late 1940s, however, the texts had begun to describe the people of Krypton as more or less ordinary human beings and to attribute Superman's powers to the vast differences between the gravitational pull and atmospheric conditions of Krypton and those of the Planet Earth. In the words of Superman #58,


Everyone knows that Superman is a being from another Planet, unburdened by the vastly weaker gravity of Earth. But not everyone understands how gravity affects strength! If you were on a world smaller than ours, you could jump over high buildings, lift enormous weights... and thus duplicate some of the feats of the Man of Steel!
Subsequent texts continued to cite the importance of the gravitational difference between Earth and Krypton while laying increasingly greater stress on the significance of Krypton's unique atmosphere in accounting for the awesome powers a Kryptonian acquired once he was free of his native Planet. "Obviously, Krypton is such an unusual Planet," Superman's father, Jor-El, once noted, "that when a native Kryptonian is elsewhere, free of Krypton's unique atmosphere and tremendous gravitational pull, he becomes a superman!" (Superman #113, May 1957)

Since, according to this theory, Superman owes the existence of his super-powers to the fact that he is no longer on the Planet Krypton, it follows that Superman has no super-powers wherever atmospheric and gravitational conditions prevail that are identical to those of his native Planet. This can befall Superman whenever he journeys through the time barrier to Krypton at a time prior to its destruction or visits the bottle city of Kandor.

According to a revised theory of Superman's powers, first advanced in 1960, the Man of Steel derives his super-powers partly from the lesser gravity of Earth and partly from the unique ultra solar rays that penetrate Earth day and night.

"These rays," explains Superman to Supergirl in March 1960, "can only affect people who were born in other solar systems than Earth's! And only yellow starts like Earth's sun emit those super-energy rays! On Planets of non-yellow suns, we would not be super-powered, even under the low gravity!"

This theory is further refined in Superman # 146, in which Superman's muscular powers - super-strength, super-breath, super-speed, and the power of flight - are attributed to Earth's light gravity, while his super-senses and mental powers - X-ray vision and other optical powers, super-hearing, and various intellectual powers - are attributed to the ultra solar rays of Earth's yellow sun.

In the logic of this latest refinement, all Kryptonian objects acquire indestructibility in the yellow-sun environment of Earth, and all native Kryptonians - such as Supergirl or Krypto the Superdog - acquire super-powers identical to Superman's. However, the indestructibility of these objects and the super-powers of the various Kryptonian survivors remain proportional to what they would have been had they remained in their native Kryptonian environment.

Because Superman is now said the derive his powers, in part, from the ultra solar rays of Earth's yellow sun, he has no powers on any Planet revolving about a red sun, such as the Planet Lexor.

The mighty super-powers that Superman employs today are the products of a gradual evolution spanning decades of texts. Following is an inventory of Superman's super-powers, along with the history and evolution of each super-power.

Super-Speed and the Power of Flight
"From the west, over the city, streaked a familiar red-and-blue figure, grim, determined, dwarfed by the adversary that threatened to deal the city a crushing blow." (Miracle Monday 4)
In the early years of his super-heroic career, Superman was not endowed with the power of flight. Although he possessed superhuman speed, he moved from place to place by running or by executing gigantic leaps. Month by month, however, Superman's running speed increased, along with the length of his leaps and the complexity of the aerial maneuvers he was able to perform once he had left the ground. The transition from leaping to actual flying was extraordinarily gradual and was punctuated with a great deal of inconsistency. Not until May 1943 is Superman explicitly referred to as a "being who can fly like a bird" and not until later that same year can it be said, without qualification, that Superman actually possesses the power of flight.
By 1945, Superman is able to fly from Metropolis to Burma in the wink of an eye. "Light travels 186,000 miles a second, but has nothing on Superman," notes the text, "who finds himself hovering over the jungles of Burma in the wink of an eye!"

In November 1946, Superman demonstrates the ability to stand invisibly on one spot by oscillating his body so fast that the human eye cannot see him. During this same period, Superman protects bystanders at a navy yard from the effects of a devastating explosion by spinning around the blast area at super-speed. With the speed of light, Superman makes a wall of his revolving body, through which the expanding gases of the explosive cannot penetrate. Then, funneling upward, Superman directs the blast toward the sky.

In August 1947, Superman successfully photographs a series of past events by flying into outer space faster than the speed of light and overtaking the light waves leaving Earth which contain the images of the events he wants to record on film.

Later in 1947, Superman single-handedly constructs an entire underground city in a matter of seconds. (Superman #48) During this same period, Superman uses his command of super-speed to travel through the time barrier into the past.

Virtually all texts agree that to penetrate the time barrier, Superman must move at a speed exceeding that of light.




Super-Strength
There have been many strong men in the world, but none with the amazing power of Superman, whose rippling steel muscles can blast boulders to dust and move mountains.
Like Superman's other powers, his strength has been continually magnified over the years.

In June 1938, Superman, described as a man of titanic strength with the ability to raise tremendous weights, lifts an automobile over his head with one hand, shakes its hoodlum occupants out on the the ground, then smashes the car to bits against the base of a cliff.

In Spring 1940, when Metropolis is ravaged by a man-made earthquake, Superman supports tottering buildings while terrified occupants dash to safety.

In 1941, Superman swims through a raging flood using only one hand, while holding a mansion aloft with the other hand. To divert the floodwaters, Superman digs a huge, mile-long ditch with his bare hands in a matter of moments.

In 1942, Superman seizes a set of brass knuckles and crushes the cowardly instrument in his palm as easily as though the metal were putty; he smashes his way through the side of a mountain; and, while clinging to the side of a moving train, Superman performs an amazing stunt - he opens a Pullman window! By September of the same year, his strength has grown to the point where he can wrench apart a pair of twin mountain peaks with his bare hands.

In 1943, when Superman acts to avert the collapse of a massive undersea cavern, his mighty shoulders bear the weight of thousands of tons of rock and the terrific pressure of the ocean above it. (Action Comics #62, "There'll Always Be a Superman!" He also hits a baseball so hard that it circles the world.

In 1946, Superman uses his super-strength to mend a gaping hole in the hull of a sunken freighter, welding the torn steel plates into place by rubbing them with his hands until they're white hot. Later texts refer to this process as the application of "super-friction."

1947 brings us the first time that Superman transforms a lump of coal into a glittering diamond. In the words of the text, "Incalculable tons of pressure exerted by the Man of Steel's mighty fist duplicate the work of eons to fuse the opaque coal carbons into the translucent perfection of a glittering diamond!" (Action Comics #115)

In 1948 he uses the super-pressure of his thumbnail to cut sheet metal.

By 1949 he has single-handedly created a sun for the Planet Uuz by crashing together its two uninhabited moons and then fueling the resultant atomic blaze with drifting meteors.

In November 1953, when a great dark star that's rushing through the solar system begins causing the Earth to spin faster on its axis, Superman finds himself confronted by the greatest challenge of his career, that of devising a means of slowing down the Earth. After fashioning a gigantic metal drill from ore-bearing rock, Superman drills through the Earth to the red-hot rocks inside Earth's crust and then, using his own body as a high-speed chisel, gouges a canal from the sea to the hole he has drilled in the Earth. When the seawater rushing through Superman's man-made canal washes over the red-hot rocks at the Earth's core, the result is a continuous blast of steam that makes a great jet-blast, pushing against the rotating Earth to slow it down. When it's back to normal, Superman closes off the canal.

But by 1957, Superman is able to hurl an uninhabited Planet through space (Superman #110) and in 1958 can produce a small earthquake with a super-clap of his hands.

In March 1965 Superman seizes a spacecraft manned by members of the Superman Revenge Squad and hurls it into a far distant galaxy light-years away from Earth.

Invulnerability
Of all the awesome capabilities of Superman, one of the most important is his invulnerability. Fire can't burn him, knives can't cut him, bullets can't hurt him. In fact, there's nothing known to man that can harm even a hair of Superman's head.
In June 1938, a bullet ricochets off Superman's tough skin and a knife blade shatters when it strikes his body. Nothing less than a bursting shell could penetrate his skin. Subsequent texts describe Superman as possessing a skin impenetrable to even steel and as being impervious to bullets because of an unbelievably tough skin. A text dated January 1945 notes that "Unlike ordinary people, the Man of Steel can do without food if necessary," but a later text contradicts this, noting that Superman could indeed "starve to death."

In September 1945, Superman holds open an earthquake fissure with his bare hands until Lois Lane has had a chance to climb to safety. "The most powerful muscles on Earth," notes the text, "withstand the tremendous pressure of thousands of tons of rock!" "If the fissure had closed on me," remarks Superman, "the only damage would have been to the rock!"

In 1946, Superman flies onto an atomic-bomb test site and withstands the successive impact of two atomic bombs. He also withstands the intense heat of the Earth's molten core. (Superman #43)

In 1950, Superman swims underwater thousands of fathoms deep, down to the ocean bed itself, and suffers no ill effects from the crushing water pressure. He withstands the heat at the rim of the sun, estimated at a few billion degrees.

By 1951, Superman can withstand the heat at the core of the sun. (Action Comics #161) By this date, Superman's Herculean body has become immune to all ills and it's impossible for him to get sick. Superman is not immune, however, to certain extraterrestrial illnesses, such as the mysterious space virus that temporarily transforms his X-ray vision into "deep-freeze" vision in November, 1957, and Virus X, native to the Planet Krypton.

In February 1954, Superman withstands the explosion of a hydrogen bomb, although it does leave him with a slight headache. (Superman #87)

A text dated April 1960 observes that the rifle-like non-super-ray weapon employed by the Bizarros of the Planet Htrae could permanently rob Superman of his super-powers. Another text for this period strongly implies that Superman is invulnerable to the aging process and therefore immortal (Superman #136, April 1960), but Superman #181 contradicts this, noting that "Though Superman is the mightiest man on Earth, even he cannot live forever!" (November, 1965, "The Superman of 2965!"

A text dated April 1965 notes that Superman is invulnerable to drowning, and can remain underwater as long as he wishes.

Because Superman is invulnerable, he cannot blush and because his skin is never affected by the sun, he is impervious to sunburn.

Superman's hair is indestructible and can neither be cut nor can it grow in Earth's atmosphere. (Superman #132, October 1959)

Any attempt to cut Superman's hair by ordinary means results only in the shattering of whatever scissors are being used, but Superman can cut his own hair when absolutely necessary by subjecting it to the concentrated power of his own X-ray vision. In a red-sun environment, however, where Superman has no super-powers, his hair loses its indestructibility and begins to grow. If Superman undertakes a mission to a red-sun Planet, it is best for him to shave and trim his hair before returning to the yellow-sun environment of Earth, where his hair will once again become indestructible.

Similarly, Superman's fingernails and toenails, which are indestructible and do not grow in the earthly environment, do grow and are destructible on Planets revolving about a red sun.

X-Ray Vision and the Other Optical Powers
With telescopic vision, he has spanned the solar system - his microscopic vision has seen the tiniest dust particle - while his X-ray vision has pierced every substance except lead.
Today's Superman possesses a wide range of optical super-powers, including X-ray vision, which enables him to see through all substances except lead; telescopic vision, which enables him to focus on objects millions of miles away; super-vision, a combination of X-ray vision and telescopic vision, which enables him to perform such optical feats as peering through the wall of a house thousands of miles away; microscopic vision, which enables him to examine the tiniest atomic particles; heat vision, which enables him to apply intense heat to any substance except lead; infrared vision, which enables him to see objects lying outside the visible spectrum at its red end; radar vision, a term denoting infrared vision used at low power, which enables him to see in pitch darkness; and photographic vision, which enables him to perform such feats as memorizing whole books at a single glance.

In Superman's earliest adventures, however, he exhibited no special optical powers, and the vision abilities he employs today are the products of a gradual evolution spanning many years of texts. Tracing the evolution of these abilities is difficult, for the terminology used to describe them is often haphazard and confusing. "Telescopic X-ray vision," for example, used as a general term in many early texts to denote Superman's ability both to see through objects and to see objects from far away, later comes to refer to the use of both of these visions simultaneously.

"Super-vision," however, both with and without the hyphen, has been employed at various times in the chronicles as a synonym for telescopic vision; as a means of describing Superman's ability to perform some complex optical feat, such as tracing television broadcast signals to their source; and as a term denoting a combination of X-ray vision and telescopic vision, the meaning it has today.

Similarly, Superman used his X-ray vision to analyze the chemical composition of substances, to melt solid objects, and to see in pitch darkness long before the more specialized terms microscopic vision, heat vision, and radar vision ever appeared in the chronicles.

Some terms, such as "super-sensory sight," "super-sensory-vision," and "supernormal vision" are used in the texts without ever being defined precisely.




Super-Hearing
Today Superman's super-hearing - ordinary human hearing multiplied countless thousands of times - enables Superman to detect the footfall of an ant 1,000 miles away or trace the source of sound waves across millions of miles of interstellar space.
In his very earliest adventures, however, Superman exhibited no special aural powers, and the super-hearing he employs today is the product of a gradual evolution spanning many years of texts. The term "super-hearing" first appears in the chronicles in Fall 1939. Nevertheless, during the first two decades of Superman's career, the texts also employ such other descriptive terms as "super-acute hearing," "super-sensitive hearing," "hyper-keen hearing," and "super-keen hearing."

In January 1939, Superman is described as having "sensitive ears," which enable him to hear things ordinary human beings cannot.

In November 1940, Superman's super-sensitive ears enable him to pick up radio waves so that he can listen in on a radio news broadcast without a radio. In 1942, his super-sensitive hearing enables him to trace radio waves to their source.

In June 1946, Superman's hyper-keen hearing enables him to trace a telephone call across the phone wires to its source.

By 1950, Superman's super-hearing enables him to hear the low humming sound of a machine 1,500 miles away. In 1953, he exhibits the ability to focus his super-hearing so precisely that, while flying high over Metropolis, he can eavesdrop on a conversation taking place in one specific apartment.

In January 1960, Superman's super-hearing enables him to trace sound waves to their ultimate source: a space ship millions of miles from Earth (Action Comics #260) and by December of the same year, Superman can hear Big Ben chiming the hour in London while he is in the Sahara Desert.




Super-Breath and Related Powers
Like Superman's other super-powers, his super-breath and related powers have undergone continual expansion and magnification.
A text dated August 1939 notes that Superman can hold his breath for hours underwater.

In January 1940, he blows out a flaming torch with a powerful puff of his breath.

A text dated March 1941 notes that Superman's lungs can withstand any air pressure, no matter how great, and a later text observes that Superman can swim thousands of fathoms deep, down to the ocean bed itself, without suffering any ill effects.

In June 1941 Superman extinguishes a raging fire with a terrific gust of breath and in 1947 he extinguishes a bonfire by inhaling the flames.

In November 1947, when the Toyman attempts to make good his escape astride a rocket-powered hobbyhorse, Superman draws him back to earth with a deep inhalation of breath.

In March 1949, after having been locked inside a skyrocket by Lex Luthor, Superman uses his super-breath in place of rocket fuel to launch the skyrocket into the stratosphere. "And with super-breath," notes the text, "the Man of Steel lifts the projectile into the sky!" Superman performs a similar feat in July 1960, climbing into the exhaust apparatus of a jet aircraft disabled in midair and using his superbreath as jet propulsion to guide it to a safe landing.

In September 1949, Superman extinguishes a chemical fire by inhaling all the air around it. "The deadly flames are no menace to Superman," notes the text, "who smothers them by momentarily drawing all the air in the room into his own mighty lungs!"

In July 1953, Superman notes that he can stay underwater almost indefinitely.

In July 1954, Superman paints a house by using his super-breath to blow paint out of a paint bucket onto the house. "Super-breath comes in handy in many ways," muses Superman, "but this is the first time I've used it as a paint sprayer!"

In August 1954, far out in space, Superman extinguishes a star with a blast of his super-breath. (Superman #91)

In July 1959, Superman halts a massive tidal wave by freezing it into a solid iceberg with a blast of his super-breath.

In March 1960, Jimmy Olsen remarks that Superman can live for years underwater.

In October 1960, after engraving an inscription with his fingernail into the frame of a mirror, Superman blows on the inscription with this super-breath in order to imbue it with an antique appearance. "The force of my super-breath will create an artificial aging effect," observes Superman, "so the writing will appear centuries-old!" (Action Comics #269)

In February 1961, after Mr. Mxyzptlk has loosed a cloud of magic sneezing powder on Metropolis, Superman finds himself forced to give vent to a super-sneeze that literally destroys an entire distant solar system.

In April 1963, Superman disarms a gang of bank robbers by using his super-cold breath to freeze the air around their guns into clocks of ice. "Puffing my super-cold breath at them," muses Superman, "I've condensed the moisture in the air around their guns into ice! Now that their numb fingers can't pull triggers, innocent bystanders won't get hurt!"

A text dated April 1965 notes that Superman is invulnerable to drowning and can remain under-water as long as he wishes.




Vocal and Ventriloquistic Powers
Like Superman's other super-powers, his vocal and ventriloquistic powers have been continually magnified and expanded in the course of his career.
In 1941, Superman employs ordinary ventriloquism to distract the attention of criminals holding Lois Lane.

In March 1942, Superman exhibits the ability to mimic voices when he expertly disguises his voice so that it sounds exactly like a gang-leader's. In September of the same year, in order to warn the people of Metropolis of a Nazi invasion, Superman shouts a warning in such dynamic tones his voice carries for miles.

In May 1943 Superman summons police to an underworld hideout by broadcasting his voice with the aid of his super-powers so that it materializes in police radio sets.

In 1947 Superman shatters a thousand-ton block of ice into tiny fragments with a mighty shout.

In January 1950, Superman ventriloquizes over a considerable distance in order to make a painted image of himself appear to talk and in order to make his voice materialize from a police-car radio. This technique, which later becomes known as "super-ventriloquism," enables Superman to project his voice over immense distances and yet have his voice heard only by those whom he is directly addressing.

In July 1950, one of Superman's super-yells is monitored at over 1,000,000 decibles. (Superman #65) One later text notes that "Superman's tremendous shout echoes like a thousand thunderstorms in the sky," while another observes that his "super-voice resounds like 1,000 loudspeakers," enabling everyone within a five-mile radius to hear it.

In August 1950, while standing with Lois Lane in an office at the Daily Planet, Superman uses ventriloquism to make Clark Kent's voice come over the telephone so that Lois will believe that Kent and Superman are two different men.

In September 1955, Superman shatters a diamond into powder by using his super-voice to produce extraordinarily high-pitched musical notes.

In July 1961, Superman converses with Supergirl over an immense distance by means of super-ventriloquism, a voice throwing technique that enables them to converse over long distances without being overheard by anyone in between.

In July 1962, Superman summons Krypto the Superdog by means of super-ventriloquism, but in November 1963 he speaks of summoning Krypto via supersonic ventriloquism, a technique that enables him to throw his voice at such a high pitch that only Krypto's super-canine hearing could possibly hear it.

Mental and Intellectual Powers
Along with his other super-powers, Superman also possesses a super-intellect and other superhuman mental powers.
In Spring 1940 Clark Kent exhibits the ability to temporarily halt the beating of his heart. In several occasions in subsequent years, Superman employs this unique ability in order to enable him to feign death. Superman #21 alludes to Superman's having temporarily halted the beating of his heart and put himself into a state of suspended animation, and World's Finest Comics #54 cites Superman's ability to control his heart action in order to simulate the signs of death. Control of one's heartbeat would seem to involve mental control of one's physical functions, but in his only clear description of this feat, Superman describes it as one of "super-muscular control." "To make you think I had 'died,'" he remarks to a group of captured criminals in January 1958, "I used super-muscular control to stop my heart from beating - just as I'm doing now to make it beat faster and louder, listen!"
In Summer 1940, Superman is described as possessing a photographic memory.

In January 1941 Superman cures Lois Lane of her amnesia by means of hypnosis and a month later, as Clark Kent, he hypnotizes her into forgetting the super-feats he is about to perform so that he can rescue her from a burning cabin in his role as Clark Kent without betraying his dual identity.

In January 1942, Superman is able to converse fluently with a mermaid despite the fact that her tongue is completely foreign to him because his advanced intellect instantly comprehends her strange language. (Superman #14)

In July 1943, Superman is described as having a "super-brain," but later texts refer to Superman as having a "super-intellect."

In January 1945, Superman visits the public library and reads through a mountain of books and articles about himself in only five minutes, and in November 1945, he is described as reading a 500-page book in ten seconds flat.

In September 1947, Superman is described as having a super-instinct that alerts him to the fact that someone is watching him.

In July 1948, Superman demonstrates the ability to solve complex mathematical equations with the speed and accuracy of a giant computing machine.

In July 1950, Superman's super-intellect enables him to solve, in seconds, a complicated mathematical problem that the Metropolis Science Foundation's mighty electronic brain takes ten minutes to solve.

In July 1951, Clark Kent memorizes a 400-page book in a matter of seconds, and in September of the same year, Superman comments that, for the sake of convenience, he has memorized the entire Metropolis phone book.

In November 1953, Superman is described as having a "super-memory."

In March 1954, Superman's super-intelligence enables him to solve a complex equation that involves dealing with mathematical ideas unknown to ordinary men.

In March 1955, Superman memorizes all the existing books on eye surgery preparatory to performing a complicated eye operation.

In April 1955, Superman is described as having used his photographic memory to memorize all the files of the Daily Planet.

In May 1956, Superman is described as being able to recall every action of his life with his "super-human memory." Subsequent texts refer to Superman's "power of total memory" or "total-recall memory," noting that it enables the Man of Steel to remember everything he ever said or did.

In January 1958, Superman is able to match up a suspect's fingerprints with those on file in Washington, D.C., as the result of having used his super-memory to memorize the entire fingerprint file of the F.B.I.

In June 1958, while relaxing at his Fortress of Solitude, Superman defeats a great robot he has built in a game of super-chess, despite the fact that the robot - which possesses a super-electronic brain - can think and play with the speed of lightning and plans a million moves at once.

In November 1960 Superman is described as having mastered Kryptonese, the language of Krypton, through his memory's power of total recall.

A text dated August 1963 notes that Superman possesses the super-intellect of a score of the world's most brilliant minds put together.




Miscellaneous Powers
In addition to the super-powers enumerated in the foregoing subsections, Superman has displayed other unique abilities that are not readily classifiable.
Several texts describe Superman as possessing super-senses which, among other things, enable him to sense the presence of an electrical discharge or the close proximity of Lori Lemaris.

Superman's supersensitive nostrils enable him to detect the faint odor of nitroglycerine in a cache of dynamite or to stand atop a Metropolis skyscraper and pinpoint Lois Lane's exact location by her perfume.

According to one text, Superman possesses a super-sensitive nerve structure, rendering him extraordinarily sensitive to the effects of cosmic disturbances. Another text notes that Superman's fingers are super-sensitive, enabling him to distinguish between types of metal ores by their touch even when he cannot see them.

Superman's super-coordination enables him to sign two autographs simultaneously, one with each hand, and a transfusion of his alien blood has the power to make a critically ill person well again within a matter of moments. (Superman #6, 1940)

Superman #133 asserts that Superman could consume virtually endless quantities of food, and Action Comics #306 suggests that Superman can perform feats of lovemaking of which an ordinary man would be quite incapable: forced into the position of having to kiss Lois Lane beneath the mistletoe at a Daily Planet Christmas party in 1963, Clark Kent mischievously decides to shock the daylights out of Lois by giving her a super-kiss, in the manner of Superman, instead of the mild-mannered kiss she would be likely to expect from Clark Kent. Indeed, when Kent finally releases Lois from his embrace after giving her a super-soulful kiss, Lois is glassy-eyed and on the verge of swooning.

"Holy Toledo, Clark," exclaims someone at the party, " - where'd you learn to kiss like that?"

"Yes," stammers Lois, plainly impressed, "for a while I thought you were - er - someone else! Where'd you pick up this technique?"

"Maybe it's sort of a hidden talent!" replies Kent. "After all, you don't know everything about me!" And then Kent thinks: "True indeed! Lois would pass out if she knew it was Superman, my other identity, who kissed her!"





One super-power that has long since been discarded by the chroniclers is Superman's ability, displayed on a number of occasions in the 1940s, to radically alter his facial characteristics and even his size through what was described as "superb muscular control" of his "plastic features."

as far as im concerned,his other powers were not identified as of now because he used his power just d same in the earlier movies or cartoons

If you guys remember didnt he stay out in space as long as he wnated to in the movies?

yup

If Wolverine went into the sun, that wildcat is really lucky because everything should've melted except maybe his adamantium coated bones. His T-cells and regenerative cells should've died. That would teach other mutants with healing factors (like Sabertooth) not to abuse their gifts...Anyway Superman can probably stand in the hottest sun for a while but I'd bet it would feel uncomfortable to him. Like "Kal-el" said earlier, Superman's powers have indeed been limited. I mean how challenging would Doomsday for example be against a purely invulnerable person?...That's why they say he's "virtually" invulnerable. Different comics explain Superman's powers in different ways. How many of you read Birthright"? Superman's body, by harnessing solar radiation became stronger than titanium but is common in appearance. Other sources say he's protected by an aura that's activated by harnessed solar radiation...It also protects his suit to a certain degree. Supes drains solar radiation but doesn't get stronger from the heat. Besides Supes would probably become soup if he went to Krypton's sun while it was exploding.

actually superman was thought up by halocaust survivors while in a concentration camp. laser eyes to cut through the fences and flight to fly away!!! more powers were added ass time went on. the japanese bit was racist and very offensive

True

woow..i didnt know dat...koool!

Lol superman cant breath in the space ????????In superman 4 he battle nuclearman in the space and go to the moon and put the american flag up so he still cant breath on the space???? like general Zod before coming to earth stop to the moon and give hard time to some american who work on it so YES superman cant breath in the space

Originally posted by kal-el
You cant really say that just coz a DD punch can kill him, it instantly means he isn't that strong.It could be that he is and so is Doomsday. We dont know that he can't bench the Earth either but dont aplly real physics, you'll drive yourself insane! You should read 'the science of superheros' though. You'll prob find it funny if you're a science buff. I did, it makes scientological mince meat out of all you're fave heroes but it's damn funny.
Superman couldnt' bench press the earth. Our planet weighs somewhere around 800,000,000,000,000,000,000 pounds or 400,000,000,000,000,000 tons. For short that number 800 quintillion lbs. or 400 quintillion tons.

Okay well all I know is that no one really knows the extent of Supermans powers as they said in this one comic Snoopdog put up in the boards they can not measure is Heat vision, How fast he goes according to this other comic I read Superman can go really fast but in a crowded area it would probably kille them if he was going his fastest. Supermans strength can be raised of he needs to if he diverts Recovery: Superman's body continues absorbing solar radiation even after death. This energy may eventually return him to life making it virtually impossible to kill him Superman needs an Earth like atmosphere to breath in. His Endurance enables him to last for extended period holding his breath, but in space he will eventually need a space suit. His greater constitution provides little need for sleep, however eventually he will tire and require rest.
Power Boost: Superman can direct his bodies energies into his Strength, Flight or Speed. It is an instantaneous boost and will be used when the challenge calls for it. Superman also has a vulnerability to magic attacks and the effects of magic. Magical attacks directly effect Superman ignoring any resistances or invulnerabilities. Superman is vulnerable to Krytonite an irradiated ore from his home planet of Krypton. He is powered by a particular wavelength of light which happens to be rather abundant in our sun. Kryptonite either destroys or interrupts this because it's radiation is in a band which is similar to sunlight, but causes a different process to occur. In other words, the kryptonite radiation "chases out" the sunlight. There are different spectrums of Kryptonite and its effects on Superman.Gold kryptonite: Gold kryptonite robs kryptonians of all super abilities and powers and they then have the same stats of a normal human of the same height,weight and build. Red Kryptonite: causes bizzare changes in Superman's body at a Unearthly rank. Changes in the past have included a beserk-madness rage and personal shrinking at a Incredible rank. It is up to the game judge to assign an effect at the time of the exposure to Red Kryptonite. These changes last for one day per round of exposure to the Red Kryptonite.

our planet weights 6.6 sextillion tons (6,600,000,000,000,000,000,000)

de point is the planet is heavy, and superman, wonderowman and martian manhunter can move it if they pulled at once

Superman's Power chart

Strength: At least able to lift and move mountains (weighing millions, maybe Billions of tons) - Cannot move the moon on his own

Speed : Atleast orbital velocity : (360. 47 miles per second) - to Sub Light Speeds (150,000o 185,620 miles per second)

Durability: Can easilly withstand high Megaton Nukes/Punches from Mountain moving characters - Can withstand the immense heat and pressure of the sun. Can be cut by only a select few objects through out the D.C. universe (E.G. Wonder Womans Sword)

Heat Vision: Atleast as Hot as the centre of Stars, can deflect the Omega effect, severly hurt Doomsday - So hot it is immeasurable by any device constructed my mann (Note we can measure the heat of Super Nova, which can reach trillions of degrees.)

Super Beathe: I don't know

Superman doesnt need to breathe in space.
He can live in the sun without anything else.
His heat vision it hotter than a star.
Can casually toss moon sized objects at the very least.
On earth has sub light speeds, in space he is faster than light.

Byrne Superman couldnt breath in space but that changed during the years.
When Superman showed to be faster than light.

Tossing moon sized objects its his "limit" without a power boost.

Originally posted by olympian
Byrne Superman couldnt breath in space but that changed during the years.
When Superman showed to be faster than light.

Tossing moon sized objects its his "limit" without a power boost.

Proof to suggests that characters don't need official incidents to power them up or De power them. Its really dependent on how the writer perceives them.

Its true, but im going with the fact that post crisis, towing a moon sized object was the best he accomplished without help and with no boosts.

Originally posted by olympian
Its true, but I'm going with the fact that post crisis, towing a moon sized object was the best he accomplished without help and with no boosts.

No I'm talking more about the crazy theory i USED to have about the marvel strong guys being DE powered. I used to get alot of stick for that. It was funny though. I was a bit unexperienced and tried to take on the ideals of the mass majority. How Stupid was I ?

Eh not at all. DC does give that idea tho, because Marvel pretty much likes to keep it more down to earth.

But both are crazy to booth with the feats they make. They are equal in that area.

Superman has no limits. He's Superman.

Originally posted by olympian
Eh not at all. DC does give that idea tho, because Marvel pretty much likes to keep it more down to earth.

But both are crazy to booth with the feats they make. They are equal in that area.

D.C. has more !!!!!!!!!!

More consitency. More Impressive (Nah probably not infact). More Quantity. Roger More (Ehhhh ??????). Generally More !!!!!!!!!

okok i admit.

DC has more.....................something!

I'm a huge fan of Superman and I'd like to ask you a question.
Does Superman's powers including strength and speed increase with age? I'm just curious, thats all.

Originally posted by kal-el
Pre-crisis he could move planets - bathe in the sun, travel faster than light and travel through space without breathing etc. His hearing was so good that I once read he heard someone in trouble from 250 miles away! These days since the crisis they've not limited his powers as such, but have stopped him doing such outrageously powerful things.I think that they want to leave it open so they can show him do something unbeleivable in the future.He's not as fast thats for sure and he can be cut by Doomsday's bone protrusions(coz Doomsday's at least as invulnerable as supes) and point blank massive explosions can also break his skin.and he can hold his breath for very long but would need breathing apparatus in space for example. With regard to his heat vision, it seems to have more range these days. Meaning that rather than just a beam of heat, he can fire short, sharp blasts for example. These days he can see 1000 miles into the distance, not sure how far he could see before. His strength is still up there with the strongest of them I would venture to say and it seems the writers want readers to believe that Kal doesnt know the full extent of his powers coz he tries so hard to control them. He obviously came to his limits fighting doomsday but we don't know the exact limits of that particular incarnation of doomsday, so it still leaves the 'unknown factor' about his limits. I doubt DC would dare publish any limits to his powers coz they want to leave options open. I reckon he can lift in excess of 1million tonnes on a really good day, but I've no idea what weighs a million tonnes to be honest. I have read about him lifting an entire submarine with what looked like extreme ease and a sub weighs about 30,000 tonnes or something, so it's def way more than that IMO.

Originally posted by Anthonypilone01

I'm a huge Superman fan and yet I'm still learning more about the character. I have a question for you.
Does Superman's powers increase with age? Just curious, thats all.

I'm a huge Superman fan and I'm still learning about the charatcer.
I have a question for you.
Does Superman's powers (including strength and speed) increase with age? Just curious, thats all.

Oh, sorry, I sent two of the same message to you. Forgive me, man.
I'm new here, so...I'm still learning how to get around this site.

They're supposed to, yes.

Originally posted by Anthonypilone01
I'm a huge Superman fan and I'm still learning about the charatcer.
I have a question for you.
Does Superman's powers (including strength and speed) increase with age? Just curious, thats all.
Yeah, just like a human. There is a high and low. Though, his exposure to the sun is what really give him more power in time.

Can Move Celstial Objects such as Moons and Small planets, but this taxes him to the limits of his power(Too right it takes the Sun about a hundred years to yield enough energy to duplicate this power).

Durability limits;

General Consensus from writers at the moment is that a planetary explosions will cause enough traumatic damage to knock him unconscious. We're talking the same power yield of the detonation of trillions of Nuclear explosions simultaneously. bare in mind that explosions shouldn't really be an effective means of Killing Superman, the heat explosive energies so deadly in usual circumstances will have the same power enhancing effects as solar radiation. Light emitted from an explosion will do the same as light emitted from the Sun. Don't forget the sun is basically a massive self sustaining explosion. I theorize this is why he's usually unable to take the same kind of punishment in blunt force (i.e. fists).

Speed;

Just below light, unless he enters hyperspace or has some kind of organic warp system built internally.

he's gone ftl more than once.

Originally posted by -Pr-
he's gone ftl more than once.

Yess but most writers (Geoff Johns, Morisson, Mark Waid, Rucka and Duffie) have acknowledged that he is must be doing the previously aforementioned, i.e. biological warp drive or self access into hyper space to achieve this, he probably uses a method similar to the Lanterns when they are going F.T.L.. Its generally accepted D.C. rule that self propulsion beyond F.T.L. by traditional methods (I.e. Non exotic methods mentioned before) will send you into the Speed Force. He can go F.T.L, but he's using a biological exotic means of travel.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Yess but most writers (Geoff Johns, Morisson, Mark Waid, Rucka and Duffie) have acknowledged that he is must be doing the previously aforementioned, i.e. biological warp drive or self access into hyper space to achieve this, he probably uses a method similar to the Lanterns when they are going F.T.L.. Its generally accepted D.C. rule that self propulsion beyond F.T.L. by traditional methods (I.e. Non exotic methods mentioned before) will send you into the Speed Force. He can go F.T.L, but he's using a biological exotic means of travel.

they have?

Originally posted by -Pr-
they have?

Read any of Waid, Morissons, or Geoff Johns work on the Flash.

Also Mc Duffie and Brusiek have acknowledged this in interviews.

I think it maybe a D.C. physical rule.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Read any of Waid, Morissons, or Geoff Johns work on the Flash.

Also Mc Duffie and Brusiek have acknowledged this in interviews.

I think it maybe a D.C. physical rule.

i've read waid and johns on the flash, and superman didn't exactly make many appearances. what applies to flash doesnt neccessarily apply to everyon else, too. mcduffie, granted. busiek, i haven't seen, but i'll take your word for it.

About the Doomsday scenario,correct me if I'm wrong but even before he fought DD,Superman was already maxed out power wise as well as stamina and already using his power reserves and by the time he fought DD to the end it was nightfall so he had less time to recharge his body...from reading the novel the death of Superman by Roger Stern but i could wrong about some of the facts so please follow up on this comment..ty

Originally posted by zaxpeed
About the Doomsday scenario,correct me if I'm wrong but even before he fought DD,Superman was already maxed out power wise as well as stamina and already using his power reserves and by the time he fought DD to the end it was nightfall so he had less time to recharge his body...from reading the novel the death of Superman by Roger Stern but i could wrong about some of the facts so please follow up on this comment..ty

Could you elaborate a little, please?

Originally posted by -Pr-
they have? I read somewhere that he produces tachyons or gravitons somehow.

He has no limits. His power is maximum. dur

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He has no limits. His power is maximum. dur

superdur

Two important factors about his strength & endurance.

(1) Superman's greatest feats of strength have happened while he's been flying. This leads to the idea that he's using a different power source while performing such a feat. You'd think someone often described as a 'planet mover' would be virtually unmatched - but non-flying bricks like Darkseid (OK he can levitate), Mongul, Doomsday, Orion and Solomon Grundy have all matched - if not exceeded - his strength levels h2h on some occasions.

(2) His powers generate a microscopic layer over his skin that is used for a few purposes. He has great enough durability to tactically use his body as a shield - to help others and try to convince somebody to surrender - but a magic-blessed weapon can cut right through his skin-level aura like there's nothing there. How deep the cut depends on the writer. Wonder Woman's tiara and sword have maimed him; she probably could decapitate him if she was bloodlusted. Only other things that can do the same are connected to green kryptonite & red solar radiation.

Originally posted by roughrider
Two important factors about his strength & endurance.

(1) Superman's greatest feats of strength have happened while he's been flying. This leads to the idea that he's using a different power source while performing such a feat. You'd think someone often described as a 'planet mover' would be virtually unmatched - but non-flying bricks like Darkseid (OK he can levitate), Mongul, Doomsday, Orion and Solomon Grundy have all matched - if not exceeded - his strength levels h2h on some occasions.

(2) His powers generate a microscopic layer over his skin that is used for a few purposes. He has great enough durability to tactically use his body as a shield - to help others and try to convince somebody to surrender - but a magic-blessed weapon can cut right through his skin-level aura like there's nothing there. How deep the cut depends on the writer. Wonder Woman's tiara and sword have maimed him; she probably could decapitate him if she was bloodlusted. Only other things that can do the same are connected to green kryptonite & red solar radiation.

darkseid can fly.

superman also stated that even subconsciously, he always holds back.

and he doesn't have the layer/aura anymore.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/12/unlimited-power_opt.jpg

'Nuff said.

Originally posted by -Pr-


superman also stated that even subconsciously, he always holds back.



You mean like Thor always says he holds back?

Originally posted by roughrider
You mean like Thor always says he holds back?

Superman doesn't always do it intentionally, though.

Plus, When have Orion, Grundy or Mongul ever matched his strength?

'Nuff said.

Yeah basically. His powers increase the longer he's exposed to a yellow sun though I'm wondering how then are the other kryptonians already as stronger as him after just a few months of exposure heck, Non even seems stronger than him.

um, in the latest issue of war of the supermen, doesn't supes take on zod, ursa, and non all at the same time? i mean, brushes non and ursa aside like they're nothing the whole fight. also, he seems to be winning against the three of them.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman doesn't always do it intentionally, though.

Plus, When have Orion, Grundy or Mongul ever matched his strength?
You're kidding right? About Orion I mean. Orion is unquestionably Superman's physical equal and in my opinion maybe even slightly stronger.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You're kidding right? About Orion I mean. Orion is unquestionably Superman's physical equal and in my opinion maybe even slightly stronger.

then you'd be wrong, bucko. uhuh

Orion physically stronger than Superman? I'd say his closer to Wonder Woman than Superman from what I've seen personally. At least when push comes to shove and Superman kicks it up a notch.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You're kidding right? About Orion I mean. Orion is unquestionably Superman's physical equal and in my opinion maybe even slightly stronger.

I disagree !

Originally posted by roughrider
Two important factors about his strength & endurance.

(1) Superman's greatest feats of strength have happened while he's been flying. This leads to the idea that he's using a different power source while performing such a feat. You'd think someone often described as a 'planet mover' would be virtually unmatched - but non-flying bricks like Darkseid (OK he can levitate), Mongul, Doomsday, Orion and Solomon Grundy have all matched - if not exceeded - his strength levels h2h on some occasions.



I agree with this btw - It would explain a lot of inconsistency.

Not that any authors have officially adopted it - but its almost a meta fictional rule .... Similar to following; 1.) those with super durability seem to be able to inexplicably boost their inertia, whenever they are hit, preventing them from accelerating in the opposite direction at huge velocities 2.) indirect shock waves are absorbed by charcters with super durability. 3.) Characters can dodge bullets if they are quicker than the person pulling the trigger - meta fictional rules that are prominent in comics, but aren't official.

Originally posted by -Pr-
then you'd be wrong, bucko. uhuh
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Orion physically stronger than Superman? I'd say his closer to Wonder Woman than Superman from what I've seen personally. At least when push comes to shove and Superman kicks it up a notch.
Seconded...or, thirded, rather.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Orion physically stronger than Superman? I'd say his closer to Wonder Woman than Superman from what I've seen personally. At least when push comes to shove and Superman kicks it up a notch. I think Superman is slightly stronger than Orion not as big of a gap as between WW and Superman.

Orion not being stronger than Superman is resonable. Him being closer to Wonder Woman than Superman is asinine.

Very few character can match Superman in the Strength category. Superman just becomes as stronger as the character he is fighting most of the time.

Originally posted by kgkg
Very few character can match Superman in the Strength category. Superman just becomes as stronger as the character he is fighting most of the time.

The Only characters I would say for SURE are physically stronger (And I mean physically - not powerful). Are derivatives of himself; I.e. K.C., One Million (You know what I mean) and Prime. I wouldn't even put my money on team wreckers like Despro being stronger; definitely more powerful - but I don't think their stronger.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
The Only characters I would say for SURE are physically stronger (And I mean physically - not powerful). Are derivatives of himself; I.e. K.C., One Million (You know what I mean) and Prime. I wouldn't even put my money on team wreckers like Despro being stronger; definitely more powerful - but I don't think their stronger.
What about PC Validus?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Seconded...or, thirded, rather.



Where've you been you bastard?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think Superman is slightly stronger than Orion not as big of a gap as between WW and Superman.

I agree. The gap between Superman and Orion is clearly smaller than the gap between Superman and Diana.

His somewhere near the middle of the gap between Superman and Wonder Woman in my opinion.

Originally posted by kgkg
Very few character can match Superman in the Strength category. Superman just becomes as stronger as the character he is fighting most of the time. No, the guy has limits and can't match up with the Hulk in terms of strength or the Sentry. Superman is still an equal to Marvel in strength.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, the guy has limits and can't match up with the Hulk in terms of strength or the Sentry. Superman is still an equal to Marvel in strength.

when he cuts loose, he has potentially no limit.

he's above marvel, too.

Originally posted by -Pr-
when he cuts loose, he has potentially no limit.

he's above marvel, too. No, when he cuts loose he is just like any other hero who holds back most of the time. He has limits. How is he above Marvel?

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, when he cuts loose he is just like any other hero who holds back most of the time. He has limits. How is he above Marvel?

higher feats.

and no, he isn't just like any hero. when he cuts loose his power boost is phenomenol. that's been shown more than once. he becomes far more powerful.

Originally posted by -Pr-
higher feats.

and no, he isn't just like any hero. when he cuts loose his power boost is phenomenol. that's been shown more than once. he becomes far more powerful. Ok, far more powerful is just like Thor but just like Thor they both have limits. Hulk and the sentry don't.


Higher feats are all well and good but he has more appearances but when they clash they are written like strength equals. But for some reason since I was arguing about strength I thought this was only about strength forgetting to peek up again at the topic. I think Superman is more powerful than Marvel just not stronger.

Originally posted by kgkg
Very few character can match Superman in the Strength category. Superman just becomes as stronger as the character he is fighting most of the time.

Some truth to that; he can push himself. However, unlike Hulk he cannot sustain it very long. What has been shown in storylines like The Death Of Superman & Avengers/JLA, is that he puts himself in danger of burnout if he pushes himself too hard for too long, and can empty his tank completely unless he gets a chance to recharge & heal.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


Where've you been you bastard?
Hiding from the vs. forum 'cause I'm like 3 weeks behind and don't want to accidentally read any spoilers, lol...

Originally posted by roughrider
Some truth to that; he can push himself. However, unlike Hulk he cannot sustain it very long. What has been shown in storylines like The Death Of Superman & Avengers/JLA, is that he puts himself in danger of burnout if he pushes himself too hard for too long, and can empty his tank completely unless he gets a chance to recharge & heal.

Yeah... well... he was still powerful enough to have Herc's adamantine mace shatter on his body.

Originally posted by Spire
Yeah... well... he was still powerful enough to have Herc's adamantine mace shatter on his body.

I only noticed mjolnir didn't shatter.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok, far more powerful is just like Thor but just like Thor they both have limits. Hulk and the sentry don't.


Higher feats are all well and good but he has more appearances but when they clash they are written like strength equals. But for some reason since I was arguing about strength I thought this was only about strength forgetting to peek up again at the topic. I think Superman is more powerful than Marvel just not stronger.

im talking about strength. power, as in how powerful his strength is.

Originally posted by roughrider
Some truth to that; he can push himself. However, unlike Hulk he cannot sustain it very long. What has been shown in storylines like The Death Of Superman & Avengers/JLA, is that he puts himself in danger of burnout if he pushes himself too hard for too long, and can empty his tank completely unless he gets a chance to recharge & heal.

he can sustain it plenty, and has done on panel. dos was 15 years ago at least, and jla avengers isnt exactly the best example either. he's had massive amps since then.

Superman technically gets stronger every day, so his limits are incredibly high as is.