Blofeld?

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Discos
why is one an informant in "You Only Live twice" and one is the villian making replicas of himself in "diamonds are forever"

are they brothers in the james bond series?

yerssot
have to reread something first, but can you in the mean time expand on it?

Discos
Right I have got my stuff mixed up yet again, but now I have 2 theories.

You Only Live Twice...
Bond arrives in Tokyo and gets taken to see an informant Mr Henderson (who gets assassinated during their meeting by a knife in the back)

I am sure its the same actor who acts for the part of Blofeld in Diamonds are forever?


MY SECOND THEORY
In You Only Live Twice, Donald Pleasence plays the dude of Spectre #1 (guy with the cat), his name was Stavro "Blofeld"
In Diamonds are forever the villians name is "Blofelt"

Discos - any sense to you, its bassically asking if they used the same actor AND did they prtray a family connection with spectre and diamonds are forever for Bond's return

yerssot
checked, yeah, they're played by the same guy, but they didn't mean it as them being the same Blofeld-guy or whatever, just the same actor ... like Austin Powers and Doctor Evil being played by the same guy

where do you him being refered to as Blofelt?

Discos
what was your last question,

Discos - yes i can read but didnt understand it

yerssot
ok, I'm definitly awake messed sorry 'bout that post

well, you said that in Diamonds Are Forever the badguy is called Blofelt (with a t) I wondered where you saw that (in the movie itself)

Discos
ah, then i must be sleeping, blofeld was it not

yerssot
yes, as everytime messed

Ahnold
Heh - weird how Blofeld grew hair between OHMSS and DAF...

And a weird penchant for cross-dressing

yerssot
it could be a wig wink

Discos
yep, on her majesty's secret service very highly and remotely sucked

Discos - has spone

yerssot
TR won't like that big grin

Discos
TR?

yerssot
The Redeemer, another poster here who loves DAF and OHMSS

Discos
I like diamonds are forever, one of my fav bond films...

Discos - ...i just hade lezenby

yerssot
how can you like that one? disliked the villains a lot and the story too

Evy_O
DAF was one of my worse yes

yerssot
because ... ?

Reborn Again
There's nothing sinister about it.

"From Russia With Love" has a full-head of hair Blofeld
"Thunderball" has a full-head of hair Blofeld
"You Only Life Twice" has a bald Blofeld
"On Her Majesy's Secret Secret" has a bald Blofeld
"Diamond's Are Forever" has a full-head of hair Blofeld
"Never Say Never Again" (despite not an official Bond film) has a full-head of hair Blofeld
"For Your Eyes Only" has a bald Blofeld

They are just played by different actors.

There was once a rumor where there was one Blofeld with an army of clones to discourage the enemy to attacking the clones instead of the real Blofeld (Diamonds Are Forever), but that idea never paned out. The idea still has merit though. But they concluded Blofeld's reign in "For Your Eyes Only" when Bond threw Blofeld down a chimney.

yerssot
a very unworthy death...

it can be annoying though that each time he's so different

Reborn Again
Actually yes, but like Bond 3 actors protrayed Bond before Blofeld's death, not including David Niven in the parody Casino Royal in 1969.

yerssot
that's ok, we don't Casino Royal at all, not canon stick out tongue

still, it all feels so weird for me sad

Reborn Again
However, there's also a little theory going around that James Bond is actually a code name and not 007's real name. And the reason why different people have protrayed him within the time space of 40 years or more is because the previous agents were killed. They take on the persona of James Bond.

I little off the subject, I know. But an interesting theory. Though it has never been said.

yerssot
but in Goldeneye, M says that Bond is a relic from the Cold War and it was Moore who finished the movies with the Cold War, not Pierce...

Reborn Again
Yes, but she could have meant the whole James Bond persona and not the individual.

yerssot
she says "you" not "bond" or "007"

Reborn Again
I did say it was only a theory.

yerssot
I'm trying to find stuff that says its wrong smile

Reborn Again
Let me know what you find.

yerssot
up to now... only that messed

Reborn Again
Til Goldeneye, the theory stood. And yet, when I think back: Goldeneye took place in 1995, and Bond infiltrated the Russian base in the beginning scene 7 years before (1988)...the USSR collasped 1991...the KGB was disbanned and became the New Russian Intelligence... so that would make Dalton's protray of Bond moot in Licence to Kill in 1989...

The theory does get confusing when you think about all the details.

yerssot
but I'm not sure if you really have to base yourself on when the movie came out in the first place messed

though DaD was after 2000 (cause Frost was in the olympics)

Reborn Again
True. Okay, let's get back on topic ie Blofeld.

Does anyone remember when Fleming makes mention of how Blofeld created SPECTRE? There has to be some mention in the novels, I haven't read everything. Someone might have this 411? It's just something I would like to know.

Reborn Again
Since we're talking about the many different faces of Blofeld and the different actors who have protrayed him over the years, here they are and in sequence of appearance. Despite Blofeld making appearances in movies before his first face appearance, these are the only actors who have protrayed the SPECTRE leader visually. IMO I believe Donald Pleasence made the best and more believable Blofeld. Blofeld is supposed to be evil and heartless, the scarred Blofeld look does the character justice. The Terry Savalas version is much too joyous to Bond, and not as believable.

#1 Donald Pleasence (1967) You Only Live Twice
#2 Telly Savalas (1969) On Her Majesy's Secret Service
#3 Charles Gray (1971) Diamonds Are Forever
#4 Unknown Stuntman (1981) For Your Eyes Only
#5 Max Von Sydow (1983) Never Say Never Again (Despite not an official Bond.)

Reborn Again
And, oh yes...an alternative universe Blofeld. Just thought I'd throw that in as a joke. eek!

yerssot
(thought some more about that theory:
Lazenby marries, and in FYEO, Moore looks at her grave, and it says Terresa Bond, so, it's the bond name she has and someone who has nothing to do with it looks her up)

Spectre:
First book mentioning in Thunderball and were active for 3 years already at that point.
that's about it I think messed

Discos
never say never again was pathetic, connery looked passed his sell-bye-date

I was watching moonraker today and noticed how roger moore has quite cheeky and decent punch lines, he was best i would

Discos - "he had to fly"

yerssot
yeah, and the fake M ("Kill all the free radicals!!"wink and the weird Q (alergic little ****)...

hehe, Mooonraker, good line with Doctor Goodhead there big grin
it's also the only movie I can think off that uses backflashse

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