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I know that LOTR and the Silmarillion and such LOTR-related stuff is considered British literature, but is the story supposed to take place in England, GB, or something like that?

Yes, it is, at least parts of it. Following the earlier ideas of Tolkien, it's a new mythology of England and takes place several thousand years ago - the european continent is something like a later development of northwestern Middleearth while England and Ireland are the broken pieces of the older Faerie island Eressea, brought there from the Coasts in the West - England is also where the last of the Eldalie were found, until they eventually faded... that's why Old English is also the only "modern" or "real" language the elves understand.

Tolkien also writes about the Golden Book of Tavrobel (Tavrobel being a city in Eressea) which he found somewhere near where he lived

Thanks...

Where did the Elves go? They sailed to the West, could that be...America? I think I'm joking on that one...

to be honest i would say the went REALLY far west to New Zealand

Indeed the Undying Lands must have been located somewhere near later America, but after the Downfall of Númenor it was removed from the circles of the World and is now only reachable over the Straight Path... instead now there are the so-called New Lands (yea, nice name ), islands and maybe also larger continents, but I think not much is known of them...


But Aman is definitely not America Tolkien wasnt really fond of America and especially not of american films

Me either(@American films )...haha...but yay thanks, my questions are anwered

im sticking with my theory of new zealand

you are without a doubt such a dimwit...

it's in Australia...

i would say that elves went west and kept going, and kept going till the circled the globe and landed on the eaast shores of ME where they were captured and turn into orcs
valinor was one of saurons deceptions, thats why none came back

and galadriel was in on it, she gets a ring, she recruits elves for sauron, thats why she turned frodo against boromir!

now that's just stupid think about where LoTR was filmed...and New Zealand is more shapewise so HA!

That would explain a lot

im either crazy, or a genious, the choice....is yours!

inbetween sauron

yes...but leaning towards more on the loony

im not insane look, im perfectly calm youpiyoupiyoupiyoupiyoupi

i rest my case your honour...

I think you're very insane

in a good way? or a bad insane oh god sombody stop him, hes killing little sally way?

well maybe not that extreme...more like if you were to ask a little boy named jimmy if he's seen a doggy go up and down on ones leg or if he's seen a grown man cry...often you'll repeat yourself and swat at unseen gnats....yeah?

Okay..so if the Elves in fact came to America, then can we say then that after a many a years they turned into the Vulcans ???

I mean, look at the ears people..it isn't that hard to figure out !

its like you have known me my whole life

hey ad, aurora just told me something about you

very nice

Shhh...you aren't supposed to be spreading that rumor ! Jeez !!!!

well she just told me it was ANOTHER OF YOU BLOODY JOKES THAT YOU ALWAYS PLAY ON ME AND MESS MY MIND UP *swats at unseen gnats*


lol ad sats are over

Yay...stupid SATS !!!!! Now I get my dark lordy back ! YAY

So what are our plans for tomorrow my friend ???

to stay in on the interent until 5pm then go to the greyhound racing and spend all my money betting on the longshot that at the end of the night will win making me amillionaire
i will then fly to austria get exa, bring her to america and to your house, call everybody who is on these boards and have the ultimate party ever!

...they act almost the same too...since their immortal and were to breed like rats...jeez the thought would be too mind boggling(sp)...mebbe that's why they have pon farr...

^^sauron...lol

dont think i will forget you feanor
im gonna drink you under the table!

Sauron will finally achieve victory!

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Again the usual question - where oh where have the elves gone? The ones this thread was about I mean

Sad that humour is always so offtopic and strange that it usually appears concentratedly in threads where it doesnt belong instead of the Tig Party ^^

...um...i'm reeeaaally sorry Exa...you know...you're gonna nee a whip to keep us boys in line...*oooh just had a visual of Exa with a whip*naughty

*pssst...sauron, Exa with a whip...yeah baby!!! shagalicious*

just joking...hehehe....hehehe

my good lord feanor....

and AD tried to tell me I had a dirty mind when i did a wink when he said he had a good night,

Well he did have a good night.......

*lucky bastard*

exactly my point

and dont think i forgot the bargepole remark erik!

*goes to look up info on Vulcans*

OMG! This thread is freakin' hilarious!!

Okay...so where have the elves gone ????

Anyone ? Anyone ???

Come on...let the answer be told now... ( stands by idly for answer )

the elves went to valinor, which was removed from the earth and you could only reach it by the straight road, tolkien wrote a book called the lost road i think it was titled about some people who find this path and end up in numenor or something or other

numenor isnt valnor but hey its a semi-answer

Alright then...thank you for the answer...and that settles that.

Now onto the off topic humor ???

Sorry...


So let me ask this...after Aragorn became King...what did he do for Gondor and Middle Earth ???

brought peace, made peace with the remaining haradrim and all the enemies gondor had made.....lived a very long and boring life, the boredom lifted for a while and he slept with arwen to produce a son......then he died, for me t tell you more i would need to know where men went after death...

Hmm...okay

So what about Gimli...where does his story go after the ring ???

so nothing about scotland huh?

Discos - lets just say thats where the eagles nest

gimlis love of the glittering caves made him settle there, with some other dwarves
he never met any nice dwarf woman as his heart had truly been stolen by galadriel and i doubt he would ever love another but her
he lived in his settlement as king for a while then he and legolas sailed over the sea to valinor.

Wow...no lucky Dwarf woman in his life ??? That stinks !

Poor Gimli

yeah, he loved sombody he couldnt have....must be...bad

Very bad...

lets find him a woman!

any takers? i think he is actually good looking
well if i were a woman or gay i would go for him

Okay...that is a little more information that I needed this morning ! But thank you !

So, a woman for Gimli...

Hmmm, what about Rhea Pearlman ???? I mean, I know she is married to Danny Devito...but she is the right size.

well there's only one dwarf women named in Gimli's history and it's Dis.

Well then...I guess he gets Dis girl !

hmm, but he wont want a dwarf, he wants galdriel, so maybe if we drug up blanchett real good..... no no that wouldnt work

No that wouldn't work...

So are their any other Love affairs with the Elves ????

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*shily interrupts interesting discussions*

Hmm, question has gone unanswered...

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well, elve love affairs, after lord of the rings there were very few elves leftr in M:E
and...well you dont hear anything about what happened in valinor afterwards, in fact all i think you know of the fourth age is that sam is elected mayor of the shire, piipin gets maried to diamond, merry get his girl, merry and pippin go to live in gondor, faramir dies, merry and pippin die....sam dies......thats about it lol

Okay...but what about the Fellowship...before Aragorn and Arwen


What love stories are there of Elves at that point. Do we ever hear about Elrond's wife ???


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elronds wife went to valinor as she was attacked by moria orcs and hit by a poison dart/arrow, elrond was able to heal her but she wanted nothing more to do with middle earth and mortallity