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why does everyone LOVE boromir...why there are plenty more good charcters in the movie/book..... sorry to the people that like him but it is just puzzling me.....can u plz explain why......

Boromir is a cool character!

Because he is one of the most interesting and cool characters and because he was imo the best actor in the films. Bean portrayed Boromir perfectly...

I do not think everybody loves Boromir... actually, I know only quite few people who do.
If you want to read why they like him I recommend
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28256
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27786
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=291234
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33013



Where is the actual point of this thread?

The first link is about Boromir' s death.
The second link has been merged.
The third one is about Sean Bean' s birthday and has already been closed.
And the last link is about an article.

So I' d let this one stay.

I'm one of the hugest Boromir fans here, and I believe I've already posted somewhere why I like him so much.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27780&highlight=tulkas+or+boro

The thread is comparing Boromir to Tulkas, a character in "The Silmarillion", but I think my post does the job of explicating why Boromir is such an excellent character worthy of respect and love from the readers. Here it is again:

Boromir isn't perfect! He's a brilliantly complicated fellow. Brilliant because his complexity is so natural-seeming. He's only human and it's so beautiful!

He's proud yet modest.

Bold yet cautious.

He's slightly bossy, but honest and fair.

He's mighty but caring of those weaker than himself ("He was always kind to me," Frodo says, "We cannot stay here! This will be the death of the Hobbits!". You will also notice that Boromir actually cares about the overlooked characters in the Fellowship. He's closer to Merry and Pip, and it seems like he's always carrying the responsibility for the safety of those two. He's teaching them how to swordfight. He's supporting them in Caradhras, he was the one who carried them when they jumped across the bridge in Moria, etc.

He's compassionate and sympathetic. Calming and supporting Gimli outside Moria when Gandalf fell. Then saying ("Give them a moment, for pity's sake!". He was also the only character to approach Frodo and talk to him about Gandalf's "death" in Lorien when all else ignores him and look at him like everything's his fault.

He is unswervingly loyal to his country, his ruler, and his family. Boromir is accepting of praise, but lavishes it also upon his brother. He shows devotion to his lord and father, but defends his brother against Denethor's unjust scorn. He eagerly takes on the task of going to Elrond and bringing the Ring back to Denethor and Gondor, and shows not the slightest inclination to sieze the Ring for himself.

Boromir had a rare thing that most flawed characters don't have: He knew he was flawed. As a great leader of men, he knew his weaknesses.

Boromir actually have his reasons why he did the awful thing that he did to Frodo and you can actually sympathize with him. And you can't really blame him for what he did. He wasn't like Aragorn or Legolas at all who were very aware of the great evil consequences that could result if The Ring was kept. Boromir lacked some knowledge and that's where his weakness came from. He didn't choose to seize the Ring just because he wanted to. He wanted to take the Ring to Gondor because he wanted to please his father and he believed that the Ring couldn't be so bad, that it could somehow help for the defense of the White City.

Boromir is fighting for his country, his family, his people, and for the Fellowship. He's valiant and devoted.

I am so touched by Boromir's character. I can't tell you how much I cried when he died in the movie though I already knew it was coming. One of his touching quotes for me was "I would have followed you my brother, my Captain, my King." I can't feel any sympathy with Tulkas on the other hand, because there's nothing in his character to sympathize with, he's very predictable and always winning.

To end this up, Boromir is a more complicated and interesting character than Tulkas who I feel is nothing but just a stereotypical strong and war-like god. And that is why Boromir is so much better than him in my opinion.

my god shadowy your posts are HUGE


i'll say i agree with exa because i've nto read shadowy's yet lol...anyway he is a cool character not really explaining why i like him but whatever



edit : just read shadowy's post very nice explanation.

um...wow shadowy...all points are...er...exactly what you said...true

but in addition...the character of boromir while flawed in the book and the movies...was given a three dimensioanl aspect portrayed by sean bean...

in his portrayal of boromir, sean gave it life and emotions that one can see and feel...the desperation sean gave boromir's character gave it an edge that the book sometimes does not emote when read...

you can feel his need for the ring...his desire in wanting it...you can see the doubt on his face and the battle in his mind as he held it in his hand...

i liked boromir in the book, i loved boromir even more so because of sean's acting ability...

and when he knelt before the uruk pierced with many arrows...you can see it in his face not fear or of hopelessness but one of redemption as he tried in vain to save the hobbits...THAT made boromir's character one of the best in the movies...

but you cannot compare boromir to tulkas even if tulkas is my favorite valar because of boromir's human qualities...there is no comparison

apologies to those for the repitition...

oh yes storm- shadowy likes to post little explanations on things like that

little...do i detect sarcasm much

euch Tulkas i can't stand the guy lol no offense feanor

I like little explanations like that
Please continue

lol, by the way im going off topic for a lil here, but i have a really sore throat and have lost my voice, my dad just gave me a 'throat losenge' which has made my tongue go numb....im scared lol i know im gonna swallow it +losenge+=fear

anyway yes boromir is the most 'human' of the fellowship, the hero who falls from grace, we all love a tragedy, but then redeems himself in self sacrifice to ssave other, we all love a hero

a tragic hero!

macbetamir
and banqumir

it's a shame sean wasn't nominated for his acting...

He doesn't need it he is above them anyway....other actors ain't got nothing on Mr Sean Bean

although i do agree he doesn't need it...but it would've been awesome for some those that appreciate his work that he be recognized...

please maybe someone tell why everyone is a big fan of boromir..... there are plenty more characters in the book/movie to pick from .....i'm sorry to all those who do like this character but it is just puzzling why ....... don't be angry ascootert me...plz...

yeah but seeing as they waited to give all the oscars to RoTK he might not have gotten it and i would have had to go all psycotic and have a little fun with my swords on the voters

lol well dont i have the thing for you two!

its boromir related too finally on topic humour from me! finally actualy humour from me!
yes this is funny, thats cos i didnt write it

MINAS TIRITH (AP) - The city of Minas Tirith has been abuzz today over the news that 'The Lord of the Rings: the Return of the King,' while receiving 11 nominations including Best Picture and Best Director, did not receive any nominations for acting.

"Eleven nominations?" said Pippin Took, of the Shire. "Well, that's good news."

His friend Meriadoc Brandybuck responded by swatting him over the head with the newspaper and protesting, "But the cast is a part of this movie! Aren't they?"

Their kinsman Frodo Baggins shared Brandybuck's dismay. Upon reading the list of nominations, Baggins commented with an ironic chuckle, "They've left out one of the chief characters: the cast. I want to hear more about them." Waxing solemn and soulful, he added, "The movie wouldn't have got far without the cast."

"You almost don't want to watch the awards ceremony," contributed Baggins' gardener and loyal valet, Samwise Gamgee, "because how can it be happy? How can the awards go right when so much bad has been nominated? Folks in that Academy had lots of chances of voting for these actors, only they didn't."

Legolas Greenleaf, of the Mirkwood realm, commented somewhat cryptically on the Academy's choices, "A red sun rises. Lame decisions have been made this night." When asked to clarify his opinion, he told reporters that he had not the heart, for the grief was still too near, and retired for a walk in the forest.

His companion, Gimli son of Gloin, had sharper remarks to make upon the chosen nominees. "Mystic River? What madness drew them there? You'll find more cheer in a graveyard!"

But wizard Gandalf the White urged a more optimistic approach. "Do not be too eager to deal out Oscars in judgement," he advised. "That is not for us to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the Oscars we are given."

Meanwhile, his colleague Saruman the formerly-White was in favor of retaliation against the Academy: "Too long have those peasants stood against us," Saruman said, referring to the Academy's failure to give any fantasy film the Best Picture Oscar yet. "Leave none alive! To war! There will be no dawn for film critics!"

Treebeard, of the Ents, told reporters after much deliberation and exchanging of long names, that he was in agreement with this proposed course of action. "There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men for this treachery," he declared. "My business is with Beverly Hills tonight. With heads made of cotton candy and rock."

"I do not doubt their hearts," Eomer of Rohan conceded. "Only the size of their brains." He then returned to the task of loading up forty of his men and horses with toilet paper and Maps to the Stars' Homes, for a "secret midnight mission" that he regretted he could not give details about.

At least one individual, calling himself Smeagol, claimed to be making plans to steal the Oscar statuettes. "Oscar is sooo pretty, sooo golden," said Smeagol. "We will take the statuesss once the Hollywood snobses are dead! Ye-esss, precious!" He then quickly added, groveling at the feet of reporters, "No! No! We were only joking! Smeagol wouldn't hurt a fly! Nice movie industry." He crawled away before he could be questioned further.

Still others appeared not to care about the snub. Lady Eowyn of Rohan said with a shrug, "The women of this country learned long ago that those without Oscar nominations may still get dates to awards ceremonies. I fear neither critics nor fans." Lord Boromir, a native of Minas Tirith, dismissed the concerns, claiming, "Gondor has no actors. Gondor needs no actors."

But overall the mood was one of mild disgust. As Lord Aragorn put it to reporters, "The day may come when the Academy is able to find their ass with a flashlight. But this is not that day."

AGAIN?????

*storm?*

its because i think we werent on topic.....or something like that

thnx for the explaination.....its just all the people i talk to lotr about they say blah blah blah sommit bout boromir.....and i don't wana talk bout boromir....i wana talk bout theeuro two towers or grima wormtongue......

by the way i know i have posted the same topic twice i didn't think the fist one had worked

why the hell has this thread been made twice?

*light bulb turns on*

oh!

*sigh*
And I just merged your two threads.
*smacks forehead*

In this one, Boromir can be discussed. If you' d like to discuss Wormtongue, then you can make another thread.

And guys, you really need to learn to stay on topic. Try to limit your off- topic-tendency. Save that for the First Annual Tig Party!

but i have a problem

*not a word from me*

You guys will drive me nuts
Let' s talk about your problem in the First Annual Tig Party

Hmm, what was this thread about ? Oh yes...Boromir...nearly forgot there with Sauron's problems and all !

Boy...he can take any thread off topic ( but then again so can I ; ) )

I liked the Boromir character...and if you get Kit in this thread...she will have plenty to say about it ! Yikes, even her sig is of the guy !

Anywho...who better to play Boromir than Sean Bean. I loved this guy in such films as Ronin and Patriot Games. I really thought he gave a good performace in the LOTR, and hearing what he had to deal with during production of the movie, with his fear of heights ... I say he gave it 110%, no doubt.

That's all I have to say about that

In FOTR, we see Boromir as proud, skeptical, and pragmatic. He is willing for the Sword that was broken to come to the aid of his people. At the Council of Elrond, Boromir is skeptical of Gandalf and the Elves, virtually all of his people are, as the Elves are skeptical of men, Dwarves of Elves, etc. Middle-earth is full of mistrust.

He is bold and arrogant, blowing the Horn of Gondor as they leave Rivendell, he is chastised but states that he will not go as a thief in the night. Even today we are taught that if you project confidence and self assurance when we walk alone through a parking lot at night, you will reduce risk of attack. If you act suspicious, you will be watched and followed. This is another thing he has been trained for, as a warrior and leader.

In Moria, it is Boromir who covers the party as they escape from the various chambers. He is the one who closes and holds the doors being them, the one who stands to fight until Gandalf tells them that swords are of no more use. Subtly, we are shown that he already has recognized that Aragorn must lead the group, he has accepted the role of final line of defense, as has been the Role of Gondor in the last years.

In the end, he tells Aragorn what he has done and asks forgiveness, stating that he did not understand, but now does, and he reports what he has seen to his commander, as a good soldier, and he asks Aragorn to save his people because he cannot. His final words are of his home and the people of his homeland. He is dutiful to the last.

Boromir's role in the Quest was vital. Without him and his fall, the Quest would have doubtless failed. Frodo would not have been able to make up his mind to go on alone when he did without Boromir's attack. A large party would not have been able to cross Mordor undetected. Without the breaking of the fellowship, the Rohirrim would not have won at Helm's deep, the Huorns and Ents would not have come to help and the Rohirrim would not have gone to Gondor's aid.

Strong-willed, dutiful, proud, arrogant, masterful, loyal, a good leader, a good soldier, I see him as all of these and more. A man with serious flaws but a good heart, not a saint, never a saint. He was a man of his time and place who had doubts, fears, and the weakness of them.

he is not arrogant!

in the chapter the council of elrond he is very polite and not at all how he is portrayed in the films

in the films he was a kind of good cop bad cop character, this was so the audience didnt become too attached to him as they wouldnt take nicely to the death of a loved fellowship member
imagine if say...aragorn had died- suicides that night!

it would of been a ruddy shite movie if aragorn had died....crycrybaby

It' s an opinion like any other sauron.

Tolkien left a lot of room for interpretation in his Boromir character, and a lot of room for the imagination to create a character that would mean different things to different people. I think that he was afraid of having Boromir look too much the bully sometimes, but he did not want to make him look 'soft' either. If he softened him, Boromir would have become a sympathetic favorite and killing him off would idd have angered the readers. I don' t think that there is a wrong way or a right way to visualize Boromir. I do think that Peter Jackson has made him into a more sympathetic character, but Tolkien left lots of area for that to be done. All of us have visions of the characters that have, over the years, evolved. Not a one of us thinks the same way about them exactly as we did when we first met them. Some of them have softened in our minds, others have developed more of an edge.

no it wouldnt it would have been great
helms deep mens morale down-rohan falls
therefore nobody to come to gondors aid...well about 600 soldiers lol which isnt alot
nobody to get the dead army
therefore the corsairs will arrive at the fields of the pellenor
gondor falls

which places more responsibility on frodo to save middle earth, he is alone

with other opponents now defeated all saurons mind will be thinking of is the ring, the ring would be tormenting frodo more, the nazgul arent in battle so they are searching for the ring

wow.....better film that the originals

that sounds like a good movie.......band

yes storm but the film portrayed boromir very poorly in my opinion
for instance in the film boromir shouts and screams at frodo and pounces on him to take the ring
in the book they sit down, have a discussion about it and frodo accepts boromirs council...before seeing a glint in his eye in which he was alarmed and placed the ring on to avoid any danger,

also the other part of the film that gives boromir the bad guy look is frodo dropping the ring on caradhras, in the book, this does not happen, frodo dores not drop the ring nor does boromir pick it up

the council of elrond and rivendell scenes incite a bad feeling towards boromir, in the book he was much more subtle than to demand it be taken to gondor in fact in one quote he actually states that it would indeed be a bad idea, he does not snub aragorn in fact he tells him his return to gondor would be welcome

overall the movie did a bad job with boromir

they must of done something right tho to have all these fans of his ...... unless they are fans of the book....

rightyo i'm of to bed for now nighty....be back o tomoz when i'm at school...tudaloo

i don't like Boromir at all...

Boromir was a complicated character... like Denethor, Saruman, Theoden, Gollum... it's the more complex characters that really make a story... especiallly one like this. it's great to sit back and enjoy legolas do his elven hero thing but Boromir represents HUMANITY in general in this story... in many ways he's one of the most important characters in the books and the films.

If Boromir is overlooked, so id the point of the story...

cool never looked at it like that....even though you put it like that still doesn't make him a favorite character of mine ...but i think everone just like boromir becasue of who plays the role....

I second that.

i can't think why tho he's dog ugly sorry to those who think he's gorg but errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

he isnt dog ugly....and you cant not like sombody cos they are ugly.....shallow

sorry but he isn't the best looking person i've seen ....

ew!
boromir is rough!!
mind you i think legolas is rough too.
hey my friend svicic thinks gandalf is the fittest!!
EEWW!!

you have some strange friends lol

omg .. i have to say eeeerrr

gandalf is good looking
and gimli is also attractive
in their own way

yes in there own way but i have to say if i found them attractive i couldn't go telling people bout it ,it would be my deep dark secrets.

hint hint sauron lol

lol... but still nope he's defeintly not a looker....

lol i think if i could have any man in the felloship it would be gimli

nah it would have to be legolas, he's so skinny you could throw him about lol

lol....not sure legolas... aragorn ain't to bad himself...

yeah lol but i would go for gimli
i have to say that gimli is rather attractive to me from a straight guy!

oooooooh no if it is going to be anyone it would have to be....


























Gothmog

hehee faramir is quite mmmmmmmmm beta than his brother ..... but the witch king wonder wat he looks like under all that cloth

invisible i bet

if he took that cloth off you would not see him
unless you went into the wraith world
in which case he would be tall, dressed in white, with a white helm....

then that is my target to find out what the clump of metal looks like

Maybe Lurtz is the mann for you!!

hhhhmmm i don'tthnk so i prefer them orcs anytime

but theres some many to choose from i will be stuck on which one is the best

How did this thread ever get from Sean Bean to the topic of who Sauron would want to be with ! And Gimli !!! Come on man...there has got to be better than that !

it can change quite easily and you have seen it for yoursef .... plus it was how come boromir was ugly and to who was rather scrummy

i think eomer is quite a looker as well

Boromir was a noble character but was weak, like most men

Discos - *sigh* why did ye have to die

he died to make room for fresh new hot looking faces in the lord of the rings AND SO WE COULD MEET HIS BROTHER>>.....

erm....ok

Discos *slap*

well if boromir was about all would be swooning over him but because he isn't we can save all that for his bro faramir....which i have to say has more looks than boro ....neways i think people only like boro cus he was killed......but thats just wat i think so don't go all guns blazing

just the fact that you said Boromir was the reason we got to meet faramir,

Discos - now go read up on your facts..."read"

ladygrim: I thought some people have already told way back in page 1 why they like Boromir, but obviously, you didn't read them. What's the point of doing this thread if you wouldn't even listen to the reasons of others and you'll just stick to your own belief? You made this thread and asked the question to begin with.

lol

Discos - uh oh...someone else doesnt like newbies

If you read the last bit of what i last sed it was....neways i think people only like boro cus he was killed......but thats just wat i think so don't go all guns blazing....which i just added to finish off what i was saying and i have read what people have said so and i understand it so don't go telling me that i don't friging read when i have probably had more friging lessons on reading than you.....

na we wont go nuts, I simply like him because it was Sean Bean who potrayed his character

his character wasnt my type anyway in a sense that we all knew he was up to something

yt u stll tlk lyk dis


*sees sombody getting mad at shadowy and insulting my love of boromir saying i only like his cos he died*

*comes in with guns blazing*

gun_bandanagun_bandanagun_bandanagun_bandana

oh yarr!

I think thats all we need to discuss on this thread *sigh of relief*

waahh!! blowup

You had more reading lessons than I had!? Jesus Christ!!! You really got me there!! fear It hurts!!!! It burns!! SOMEONE HOLD ME!!!! giljotiini





























Right.

whoa, stands back and throws pills and presents to calm her down...gees

nuke

calm down shadowy
i alread filled her full of lead

think of calm fields
and smodden running in them.....falling over in the nettles

I'm calm, really. Just hyper, I wasn't really affected, you know.






















I wouldn't sink that low.

*eherm*

hehe, falling over you say

Discos - how about running through the dead marshes and you can laugh from your tower and I shall laugh whilst flying over with my wings

well yeah you wouldnt sink that low
a lady of such high esteem

your mind is low though with your filthy minded comments that burn my christian brain

*picture of my brain below*

my brain has been working overtime

also my ass as well as I have been eating alot,

Discos - I shall go find a pic of an ass and show you what it does after we eat

my good lord

i think we all know what an ass does

you do naughty kinky

I want to be kinky sometime soon again,

lol ...

lol?

ever take into account people may not actaully be sitting infront of their computer screen laughing out loud

Discos - especially in a Libary ya know ranting

Oh my God! Those weren't really filthy-minded, and very unintentional.

why whos in a library

yeah...course they werent

i had to go shower to get rid of the filth,

offtopic

helpsmilie

i shall help you with my mini army...chairbox

*points to storms post*

anyway stormy (your new name) i think this thread has been answered and its purpose fulfilled

so......

i get to say it


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whoa, this thread is total closed, i guess is should even bother pushing the reply button

Discos -

oh sorry hehehe i must have forgotten to press it

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Indeed, it looks like the question has been answered. Closing before this becomes a huge source of off-topicness.