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What do yall think of this BAND?

they were pretty ok, but the 'my band' is really...try hard!

nothing special at all. make me smile on occasion, but other than a laugh then shaking my head, nothing

They're not a BAND, and they suck beyond all measure.

I wouldnt say that...


There ok and fun to listen to

Worst rap group ever.

you wanna listen to good rap groups...listen to these

Organized Konfusion
Jedi Mind Tricks
A Tribe Called Quest
Hieroglyphics
Cannibal Ox
CunninLynguists

etc etc....

They aren't that good; but I don't think they are the worst. The St. Lunatics are awful; Nelly is a complete moron

i love them they came a long way in the rap game ya know

no they didn't

Eminem did everything for D 12. and Eminem isn't that great either.

you are wrong eminem is the only white rapper that made it this far

eminemis pretty good his songs are some of most enjoyable and funny catchy songs I knoow

exactly i luv him

Doesn't make him good. I like a few of his funny songs but other than that I don't like him at all.

Eminem was really good when he was doing his own stuff, but both of the D12 albums suck some serious scrotums!!!!

They dont completly suck.How could you not like "My Band"?

not many people like nelly!!! why tho?? personally i love him!...well not love, but ireally like hm...iv got ppl i like betta o/course...but i listen to his music!

Because he's... Nelly... and he's a mainstream pop-rapper.

well....what mainstream pop-rappers DO you like??? theres gotta be at least one!!! there r ones who i know ppl wont like....but theres some ppl u guyz gotta like....if ya want me 2 mention some.....

I don't like any. As far as hip hop goes, I like Immortal Technique, Jedi Mind Tricks, Mobb Deep, and MF Doom. All underground. One of the reasons I think mainstream is crap is because I don't understand why it's so cool to be a gangster. (well ok I admit it... I like ONE "gangsta" song, the one they play in Office Space that goes "damn it feels good to be a gangster". I can't help it, I love that song.) What is supposed to be so cool about hearing shells hit the pavement and getting shot nine times I simply don't understand. My thoughts are, rap is pretty much just lyrics and beat... Might as well be good, thoughtful lyrics if that's the part of the song that has substance.

yeah, but there ARE mainstream ppl who dont sing bout sex an gettin shot an drugs an all that...theyre the 1ns who id espect u guys 2 like coz theyre real good!

Yeah, but I honestly have yet to see a mainstream RAPPER who never says "gangster" or "pimp" at all.

really?? um, have u ever heard of mario winans?? hm he might actually sing r&b.....ill say some ppl....
usher
craig david
actually theyre r&b arent they...well....okies icant think of any ppl off the top of my head that dont say them at ALL!!!! but lots of hip hop ppl have some songs that dont
ie puff daddy, r kelly, 2pac, (black eyed peas....theyre considered mainstrein rappers arnt they?? the black guy rapps...he dont say it do he??) tha guy in city high dont...donell jones.....fabolous....ppl have their songs (im not gon name any more...but thats a few..an i don think donell jones says gansta or anytin...but is he a rapper or r&ber??)

OH MY ****IN GOD!!!

Eminem the greatest WHITE RAPPER???? MY ASS!!!!

i know over 100!!! better white rappers. try listenin to THESE GUYZ and you forget all about eminem.
i use to think he was the best white rapper too. but dig deep and search. dont just look at what tv and radio has to offer. dig deep!!!

Eyedea
Aesop Rock
Diabolic
Slug (half black)
Sage Francis
Vinnie Paz (also known as Ikon the Hologram)
El-P

and the list goes on

just search these guyz.

im done.

what bout so solid crew, they got white rappers!!!! OMG!!! SO SOLID CREW!!! darth, so solid crew have NEVER mentioned gangsta or anythin in their songs!!!

Darth im listenin to Immortal Technique now! the guy is a genius.

It's not so much the fact that they talk about this stuff that bothers me... It's the fact that nobody, even the people who run the radio stations and MTV, seem to understand what a gangster is. They play this crap, but they don't play Marilyn Manson, because he's not a rapper and isn't allowed to talk about sex and drugs. Also, it's not just sex and violence, it's all this stuff about money and fancy cars and nice watches... I don't get it, what's supposed to be so cool about being a pimp.

Anyways, the people you mentioned...
From Puff Daddy's "Real Ni**as":

"Yeah, yeah, yeah
I tote gats wit my nig*a, clap wit my nig*a
Break bread and then break backs wit my nig*a
Jack wit my nig*a, cock the latch wit my nig*a
Now how you gon' act wit my nig*a?
Just remember there's a gun to your dome
And I will lick shots and run through your home
Or better yet I put your son to the chrome
Turn the music up and unplug the phone
I will kill him, read my lips
You too, motherf*cker if I don't see no bricks
See, I flips when I don't see no chips
Yeah, nig*a, I know you in pain, I don't care nig*a
I want the stash, keys, hash, weed, G's motherf*cker, freeze
C*ck sucker, you better bring the things out
Before I blow your motherf*cker frame out
Nig*a what"

And as for Tupac, he was a gangster... "Live by the gun, die by the gun", don't tell me that's not gangsta...

From R Kelly's "Bump N Grind"

"I don't see nothing wrong with a little bump and grind

See I know just what you want and I know just what you need girl
So baby bring your body to me (bring your body here)
I'm not fooling around with you baby
My love is true (with you) with you is where I want to be, girl see
I need someone someone like me to satisfy your every needs"

I've never heard of Donnel Jones, and never listened to the Black Eyed Peas. They're mainstream, but like I said I've never heard their music. So I guess my point about all this is... If they censor "muthaf*cka", why don't they censor the whole damn song? Don't know if you've ever heard of Marilyn Manson, but he's kind of a scary shock rocker whose goal in saying all the satanic stuff is to point out exactly what I'm talking about. It's his way of saying "screw you" to popular culture. Hard to explain really...

that's cool he is a genius ain't he

i might be wrong by saying this but cant u kinda consider

Immortal Technique and Rage Against The Machine same? but different genres?

my friend is huge RATM fan and he tells me their music is pretty much on same topic. if it is ill check out some of their stuff.

Yeah, they're very much the same. RATM talk about society a lot, and I think they consider themselves commies...

"Guerrilla Radio"

Transmission third world war third round
A decade of the weapon of sound above ground
No shelter if youre looking for shade
I lick shots at the brutal charade
As the polls close like a casket
On truth devoured
Silent play in the shadow of power
A spectacle monopolized
The cameras eyes on choice disguised
Was it cast for the mass who burn and toil?
Or for the vultures who thirst for blood and oil?
Yes a spectacle monopolized
They hold the reins, stole your eyes
All the fistagons the bullets and bombs
Who stuff the banks
Who staff the party ranks
More for Gore or the son of a drug lord
None of the above f*ck it cut the cord

Lights out
Guerilla Radio
Turn that shit up (x4)

Contact I highjacked the frequencies
Blockin the beltway
Move on DC
Way past the days of bombin MCs
Sound off Mumia guan be free
Who gottem yo check the federal file
All you pen devils know the trial was vile
Army of pigs try to silence my style
Off em all out that box its my radio dial

Lights out
Guerilla Radio
Turn that shit up (x4)

It has to start somewhere
It has to start sometime
What better place than here
What better time than now

All hell cant stop us now (x6)

"Calm Like a Bomb" (I think I've shown you this one before)

I be walkin god like a dog
My narrative fearless
Word war returns to burn
Like Baldwin home from Paris, Uh
Like steel from a furnace
I was born landless
Yes its tha native son
Born of Zapatas guns
Stroll through the shanties
And tha cities remains
Same bodies buried hungry
But with different last names
The vultures robbin everything
Leave nothing but chains
Pick a point on the globe
Yes tha pictures tha same
Theres a bank, theres a church, a myth and a hearse
A mall and a loan, a child dead at birth
Theres a widow pig parrot
A rebel to tame
A whitehooded judge
A syringe and a vein

And the riot be the rhyme of the unheard

What ya say? What ya say? What ya say? What? (x4)

We're calm like a bomb (Ignite) (x2)

This aint subliminal
Feel the critical mass approach horizon
Tha pulse of the condemned
Sound off Americas demise
Tha anti-myth rhythm rock shocker
Yes I spit fire
Hope lies in the smoldering rubble of empires
Yes back through tha shanties and tha cities remains
Same bodies buried hungry, uh-huh
With different last names, uh-huh
The vultures robbin everyone
Leave nothing but chains
Pick a point here at home
Yes the pictures tha same
Theres a field full of slaves
Some corn and some debt
Theres a ditch full of bodies
Tha check for the rent
Theres a tap, tha phone, tha silence of stone
The numb black screen
That be feelin like home

And the riot be the rhyme of the unheard

What ya say? What ya say? What ya say? What? (x4)

Calm like a bomb (Ignite) (x9)

Theres a mass without roofs
A prison to fill
Theres a countrys soul that reads post no bills
Theres a strike and a line of cops outside of tha mill
Theres a right to obey
And a right to kill

Theres a mass without roofs
Theres a prison to fill
Theres a countrys soul that reads post no bills
Theres a strike and a line of cops outside of tha mill
Cos theres a right to obey
And theres the right to kill

nice lyrics. i like it.

me too

Yea...

Mainstream
Underground

It's that simple.

My favorite RATM song, the usual political message, but its a stone cold classic

Rage Against The Machine - Bullet In The Head

This time the bullet cold rocked ya
A yellow ribbon instead of a swastika
Nothin' proper about ya propaganda
Fools follow rules when the set commands ya
Said it was blue
When ya blood was read
That's how ya got a bullet blasted through ya head
Blasted through ya head
Blasted through ya head
I give a shout out to the living dead
Who stood and watched as the feds cold centralized
So serene on the screen
You were mesmerised
Cellular phones soundin' a death tone
Corporations cold
Turn ya to stone before ya realise
They load the clip in omnicolour
Said they pack the 9, they fire it at prime time
Sleeping gas, every home was like Alcatraz
And muthaf**kas lost their minds

(Hook)
Just victims of the in-house drive-by
They say jump, you say how high
Just victims of the in-house drive-by
They say jump, you say how high

Run it!

(Hook)

They load the clip in omnicolour
Said they pack the 9, they fire it at prime time
Sleeping gas, every home was like Alcatraz
And muthaf**kas lost their minds

No escape from the mass mind rape
Play it again jack...and then rewind the tape
And then play it again and again and again
Until ya mind is locked in
Believin' all the lies that they're tellin' ya
Buyin' all the products that they're sellin' ya
They say jump and ya say how high
Ya brain-dead
Ya gotta f**kin bullet in ya head

(Hook)

Ya standin' in line
Believin' the lies
Ya bowin' down to the flag
Ya gotta bullet in ya head...

A bullet in ya head (x15)
Ya gotta bullet in ya f**kin head!


But for the ultimate politcal hip-hop, I'd reccommend Dying Nation by Cunninlynguists. Truly awesome.

i dont think some of u are understanding hip hop.

i recommend u see what MC MIKE posted^^^

and Eminem sucks

the fact that Rage is in the discussion of D12 makes me sad. very sad.

it was a different disccusion but still yea it is sad that its on an Eminem thread.

ok here's a freestyle (2 part) for those that believe eminem is greatest white rapper

Eyedea and Slug freestyle on Wake Up Show

Part 1: http://tiger.towson.edu/users/vpirpi1/eyedea_&_slug_freestyle_@_wake_up_Show_part_1.wmv

Part 2: http://tiger.towson.edu/users/vpirpi1/eyedea_&_slug_freestyle_@_wake_up_Show_part_2.wmv

yeah we should just stick to talking about eminem and d12 I dont know how the coversation drifted elsewhere.

hell yeah, thats the shit

tabby goood choice. Sage Francis > Eminem.

?

??

yea im right. Sage Francis is Wwaaaaaayyyy better than Eminem.

Eminem is not the greatest rapper or greatest white rapper. he is overrated.

and D12 is one of the worst groups ever.

I actually watched the MTV movie awards for some reason... I was reeeealllyl bored that night... Anyways, they performed there, and they're terrible. Eminem is the only creative element in the group, which is pretty pathetic.

"im the lead singer of my band band i get all the girls to take off their underpants my salsa""Where'd everybody go?"

weak

your point?

Thats a cool song.They may suck its just that song is cool.

I like that big fat guy the most hes awesome(not trying to be offensive)

fat guy awesome?

Bizzare is one of the weakest mc's right now. did u even read the lyrics.

lol I just like his voice

damn straight

tabby who else u listen to thats underground?

u like Ill Bill?

I think Eminem is awesome,But D-12 is ok.

i think ur wrong

no wait..i know ur wrong

Hocky mabye you should lay off, Did you ever think that they LIKED to listen to talentless losers?

oh brother

sorry to dissapoint you but i dont get to listen to much due to the living in australia thing, only what i might get off of the net or a friend'll bring around. i was lucky to come across Sage Francis on Punk O Rama 8.

its cool

Punk O-Rama is cool some of the best real bands are on there.

too true, and there poverty priced so scummy ***** like me can afford them!

Yeah the bands on there are real and not preped out by fame and fortune.

i fink dey rule but dey alwayz ave em n den bizarre n den proof etc....alwayz ad same order....em shud go solo agen!

dont talk like that^ ur not gangster...trust me

and d12 sucks..

i like em...my favorite song by them is 40oz.

check out these groups: 10000000000000000000 x better than D12

Binary Star
Self Scientific
Cannibal Ox
Madvillain
Hieroglpyhics
Wu Tang
Latyrx
The Pharcyde
CunninLynguists

Organized Konfusion
Jedi Mind Tricks
A Tribe Called Quest
Hieroglyphics
Cannibal Ox
CunninLynguists

i heard these groups suck.
d 12 is pretty good though

LMAO LMAO LMAO

Organized Konfusion SUCKS???



we have daily noobs talk like they know everything.

yes they do suck to quote you.INDEED they suck

how so? i bet u haven't heard shit from them...plus u just went back a couple of posts, copied my list and posted as if they suck when you haven't heard their albums. thank you and good bye.

damn do i own at bashing nooblets

i am senior member bud

physically ur a senior member, mentally ur another nooblet

its not my fault all these broke ass underground rappers cant get deals. there shit ryhmes and beats are to blame for that.

AHHHAHAH cant get deals?
did u know most of them get deals, they just turn it down cuz they dont wanna have to change there rhymes and production to commercial bull sh!t. and dont speak when u dont know anything...go back and check ur facts like Juice said to Supernatural...

"go back and do research buddy/
cuz ur not even good enough to be my understudy/"
-Juice

they must be retarted. why would you turn down deals? why dont they set up a meeting with a label that doesnt make people change there style? because they suck thats y.

THEY DONT WANT TO CHANGE THEIR LYRICS. they dont want to lose their talent.

also they dont want to lose their reputation in the underground.

tupac got a deal and he didnt have that problem

yea he did! he changed his style from great lyrics like Brenda's Gotta Baby to some STUPID shit like Hit Em Up and Bomb First. stupid media changed him, then shot his nuts, and finally killed him.

jason, instead of spouting off nonsense like you know what you are talking about, maybe do some ****ing research.

d12 aint bad, i like "how come", im tired of hearing "my band", and i barely remember purple pills its been so long since i heard it, and since im from southwest missouri....i liked nelly's first album, cuz its actually halfway decent, but his other cd's sucked....

noobies closedeyes

D 12 sucks....That's just my opinion though, so don't everyone start jumping on me

Who are you calling a newbie, Stormy? You've been here, what, two months? Wow. I've been here almost eight. Damn newbies.

PippinTook- i agree, they do suck

Thank ya for agreeing.

eb iknow what i like and i know what i think sucks.

THINK! but u dont know!

So you THINK it sucks, eh, Jason? Hmmm.

alrighty I have a question for all you d12 fans (if there are any) Who are they talkin about in the song "How come?" pleeeeeeeeeeeease help me!!!!! Its drivin me crazy....well alrighty!!!

there talking about themselves... listen to the lyrics, its not hard to tell....

noobies

dude your still a newcomer dude

d12 is alright, i only liked one song, it was called fight music, it came out during 911, so they removed it from the mainstream cause it had controversy

D 12 sux they would be better off by themselves. but they have to have EMINEM.

D12 are utter trash. Eminem is the best of the group, but thats like saying Bill Clinton is smarter than George Bush.

he is smarter and dont flame the rest of the group for having a ****** for a lead singer (rapper) same difference. the rest of the group is great but he a homo, ******, and he is scared of his mother.

D12 sucks. especially Bizarre. his lyrics are stupid and boring. best in group is Eminem...and thats sad.

yes it is if it were true that fat guy can rap. but they would be better if 50 was in there.

no 50 is even worse. i'd rather listen to bizzare rap, then 50 cent. both are very weak mc's.

omg, bizzare cant rap for shit, neither can 50, they all suck except eminem, but i liek eminem though...o well

saying somthing sucks is an opinion not a fact there you frickin hobbit

Who the hell is Bizarre???

I don't think it matters who's in the band...They'd still suck.

ok its obvious which is the superior lyricist there, but still neither of those verses appeal to me. They're both just bragging about their talents, its just IT is better at it than Bizarre.

^ I agree. IT is much better with the lyrics....so yeah....

his lyrics are so stupid...


You know why my hands are so numb? (No)
Cause my grandmother sucked my dick and I didn't come (oh)
Smacked this whore for talkin crap (*****)
So what if she's handicapped, the ***** said Bizarre couldn't rap
I ****in hate you; I'll take your drawers down and rape you
While Dr. Dre videotapes you (hell yeah!)
Satan done got me on this song
Eatin a hot dog readin the Holy Qu'ran, while I'm on the john
Tired of wearin this yellow thong
Take it back Sisqo, you know where it belongs (thong th-thong thong)
Now here's a gun, I'll put it in your palm
Now go over there and blow up Dru Hill's arms
**** your love songs

That's just offensive is what that is....

hahahahhahaha i love that verse...funny shit

its soo stupid

exactly and it's hilarious...therefore i like the verse

therefore u must be a mindless drone (which your not), or someone that thinks those lyrics are comedy

well if a song makes me laugh it's just as good as a song that makes me cry or that makes me angry or makes me think about "issues"..music is supposed to evoke some type of emotion...laughter is an emotion and i find the lyrics funny.

actually the point of that song was not comedy...he was serious...

it doesn't matter what the ..."point" of the song was...the FACT is that i find it funny so i think it's a good song

very well then, u like it
and i hate it

I think it's funny and I hate it

Didnt this thread use to be about D 12?

it is about D 12...we are dissing them gradually...

sayin 50 sux is sayin G-UNIT sux(which they do) 50 can beat M&M up so bad in a battle its not even funny. like i said before D 12 would be better off w/out him.

ummmm^ this shows how much you know man

i dont like Eminem, but the man is an excellent freestyler. he did really good at the 2000 Scribble Jam. he lost to Sage Francis whos a poetic freestyler.

but back to the topic, Eminem is better than 50 in all aspects and D 12 sux with G-Unit...and Jay-z...and all thsoe other wacks mainstream rappers.

i agree with you about G-UNIT and D 12 and JAY-Z they do suck very bad.

I hate 50 cent

Woah....I completely forgot about the topic

Yeah. D 12 sucks. The end.

not the end

Jason Wynguard or whatever the F*** your name is. You need to shut the hell up, people as ignorant as you shouldn't be allowed an opinion.I'm not discriminating against you for your "taste" in music i just think you are a total *******.You don't know what you're talking about, eminem,50 and bizzare are not rappers - they wouldnt know hip hop if it raped their mother.Hip hop isnt about "cool" its about meaning, politics and f**king centuries of oppression, not cars,bling and fake titties it is disrespectful to call any of that crap hip hop because IT IS POP it is on exactly the same level as britney spears and busted.The only eminem stuff that actually has any meaning to it was in 1996 BEFORE he got signed (which is in response to your ignorant "underground rappers arent signed because they have shit lyrics" comment) and even then there isnt much meaning, just good flow.
All you sad little geeks who look up to these fake ass popstars would be so dissapointed to know that 50 didnt get shot, he fell down the stairs, and when eminem gets home to his undeserved mansion he relaxes in a bubble bath and watches the teletubbies.
Rappers like necro, non phixion etc although they rap about violence they have meaning behind it. what intelligence is there to 50 cents lyrics? we'll have another comparison shall we?

"You gettin' money ni*ga (yeah), you dimed out (yeah)
Well 50 Cent is the hottest shit out this (yeah)
You bust your gun nig*a (yeah), you on the run nig*a (yeah)
You treat a grown man, like he ya son (nig*a)" 50 cent - da repurcussions.

"Unfocusable, 'xplodin smokin toast to ya vultures
Soldiers in haemoglobin words of evil spoken invokin'
Volcanoes evoked, these veterans are very violent
Non Phixion Jedi Mind Tricks a deadly virus" Ill Bill appearing on The Wolf by Jedi Mind Tricks

Now make your mind up, stick with your "G" or look for some talent? its up to you.

Preach it bro...

I agree with you on most points.. except stan had meaning and was the best Eminem song. Better than any of his underground work. Better than any necro song I've ever heard either. I only like Necro's production though.

Yeah thats what I've always thought (about Stan), but then someone on here told me it was a total rip-off of a Masta Ace song.







Word...Bill is probably the weakest link in Non Phixion as well but he still shows that 50 Cent shit up.

What Masta Ace song are you referring to? I always hear that he stole his flow and stuff which I can hear but I've never heard a Masta Ace song that sounded like stan. If you could tell me the name I can judge for myself.

I don't actually know, I'm not to big on Masta Ace. You'll have to ask hockey, he's the one who told me.

not stole the song, but stole concepts, flow, and just the way he rhymes.

Yeah I already knew that. Stan is still an awesome song though.