Spider-Man, not man spider why

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Spiderman_RJ

Spiderman_RJ
spider webbing holding thugs and bing found by cops, true as essencial on HQs

Spiderman_RJ
spider way of sticking into the wall

Spiderman_RJ
green goblin sarcasm- i surrender!!!

actually the goblins mask is way cool, and hell of well designed , they misse on the cone shape ,but it had an justify, its a armor vest, made to fly, and realy on the mouth it should move to show da foe briliant acting

Spiderman_RJ
webbing blinding...........

Spiderman_RJ
pete and aunt may relationship

Spiderman_RJ
JJJ web shut up, that was hell of fun

Spiderman_RJ
petes sorrow, just like pete would feel, hes shy so he wouldnt show his sorrow to anyone , so he would just get away from everyone like a shy teeen, and where else than up above?
i just loved that scene

Spiderman_RJ
goblin threating spidey, really cool shot

Spiderman_RJ
Stalking hero - night lovers
sweet just like comics (again)

Spiderman_RJ
shooting with style

Spiderman_RJ
see again carefully, with a free mind. they made a hell of a work on it. its even scary not gofy. they missed on the cone shape but, they had in mind it was better to fly (whatever,right)

Spiderman_RJ
this i dont understand, hwo they removed 10 minutes of the movie and the scene with the twin tower and let them on his eye

Spiderman_RJ
again loolk the deatail on goblin

Spiderman_RJ
now choose!!!!!!!

Spiderman_RJ
golbin moves. smooth

Spiderman_RJ

Mr Parker
uh that aint the goblin that looks like an alien from outer space.

Mr Parker
again it looks like an alien and nothing like a goblin.

Mr Parker
the problem with that is with organic webshooters,it makes no sense in hell why he would use the classic finger pose to shoot the webshooters like he does.

Spiderman_RJ
kkkkkkkkkkk
spidey. yahaaaa

Spiderman_RJ
so all spider essence is there, adaptation is bases on this. also have you never though the producer$$ would lift a project only for fans, they had to change the character to actual knowledgement (in other word, sth we dont know right now, just like radiation at the time now its genetics) and made him aceptible for a wider range of viewer$$. that all.
comente on spiderman, cos man spider was never peter parker

Mr Parker
what they fail to mention is that body fluids being sprayed into a persons mouth could cause someone very serious harm to that person,something that betrays peters character because thats somthing he would NEVER do.I'm sure when he shot his classic webbing that he realised the chemicals he used to shoot the webbing would not be harmful to a person when he shot them into a persons mouth.that he considered all possibilitys before doing that.Peter would NEVER even to a jerk like Jameson,spray body fluids into a persons mouth,that totally betrayes his character. mad

Spiderman_RJ
no way , you must consider his organic webbing the same from his chemical one on comics, and also i dont think he ever though about it, remember the comics where he left jameson with the mouth web for 3 hours

Spiderman_RJ
so it jus dont couse harm, did u died after touching a garden spider web? no ?!so its the same.

Spiderman_RJ
about that. o.k u got a point but, we must consider the movie point of view that as he learn it just shoot like that, so it would be like cat claws its tensioned inside they hands, and is moved outside removing the muscle tension, so with spider its the oposite.

Mr Parker
like I said,he more than likely knew they would not be harmful if they dissolved.no fella,body fluid is much more dangerous.

Spiderman_RJ
well its a futuristic design and also military. and come to think of, the comics version dont look like a goblin also, its even more goofy, the problem is that we got used to it, and the characters mad us acept it. it would be like they do everything you mr parker wanted in the movie, except foe spider cloth . instead they d made a new one, lets say its even good or better then the original, you wouldnt acept it would you? so its the same

Spiderman_RJ
body fluid harmfull show example.
also his webbing are disssolved , cos like i saud u must consider them just like in the comics one, otherwise it would last at least 3 weeks

Mr Parker
Peter is no different than us that if he got sick or something and happened to spray fluid into jamesons mouth,very harmful consequences would indeed arise. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Spiderman_RJ
LOL its true but he wasnt , right?

Spiderman_RJ
maybe we got a dayly bug super hero ehahha

Spiderman_RJ
but when real spider are sick, they webbing is not attacked by viruses, it only dont sitck as normal, and its easier to brake

Mr Parker
man everybody knows that in this day and age,its very dangerous for someone to have something from someones body go into a another persons body.that would be the same as having a cut and someones blood accidently getting into your system,no different,also there were a couple of occassions when peter got a disease in the comics and had to get cured by doc connors,if he unknowingly shot harmful bbody fluids into jamesomes mouth while having a diseace,fatal consequence would be the result especially in this day and age.

Mr Parker
By the way the reason he is MANSPIDER now and not spiderman is because he is NOW a mutant which totally betrays his character because the comic calls him the NON MUTANT SUPERHERO .HUGE difference. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Spiderman_RJ
well if you split your blood into another person the minimum that happesn is slight rejection depending on blood type, and on maximum your blood will coagulate the intruder blood, that will be rejected.
thats what they do in blood transfusion pal.

Spiderman_RJ
Peter is infact a NEW TYPE OF MUTANT, OR GOD, OR ENTITY becouse he born with that power and was predetinated to have it.

bigp
Alright...I confess, I wasn't a huge Spidey fan before the first movie, that made me appreciate it. Now I read the comics (occasionally) and have even bought (and read to death) the Ultimate Guide.

I agree with the majority of the posts here, that even though Spidey, and the Goblin, are a little different in the movie than the comics, they are essentially the exact same characters.

As for Spidey's organic web fluid, I'd say that even though it's organic it probably has the same properties as his synthetic web fluid in the comics, that's why he could get away with spraying it into JJ's face.

And as for the "classic" hand pose to fire organic fluid, well, he has to have some specific way of firing it, doesn't he? Remember, in the comics he hits the button, in the movie he strikes the pose. He's even seen experimenting on the way to make his web fly. If he didn't have an organic "trigger" (that looks similar to the comic pose to preserve the essence) he'd be trailing web all the time, wouldn't he? The pose is just his "on/off" switch for the web.

Mr Zero
Mr Parker, Spiderman RJ - do you have PAYPAL accounts? because I swear i will give you $10 each if you both stop talking about this.

Spider-Dan
LOL. Good one.

Spiderman_RJ
LOL mr zero. my acount number is on your Pm. now smile

Stormy Day
SPIDERJ you rock those are good points you got there and cool pics!

Freddy_vs_Jason
Um.......yeah, it does. Maybe when he pulls back his fingers into his palm it touches/pushes in a glan which allows the web to come out. Makes sense doesn't it? I hated the web-shooters! I like the organics.

Stormy Day
That makes sense f_V_j the webbin has to be triggered by something it cant be triggered by thought .

Red Superfly
Oh God not another thread about this crap. This sort of thing should have stayed contained within one topic.

Stormy Day
Yeah they keep popping up and I keep replying messed

Mr Parker
funny how they convienitely forgot to give that explanation in the movie.thats really strecthing.

Mr Parker
the man-spider apologists always trying to defend sonys moronic decisions. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Spider-Dan
Christ, you're F-ing annoying. I wish Wolverine888 was back.

Stormy Day
When will the manspidey geeks ever realize nobody cares what they think roll eyes (sarcastic)

Spider-Dan
My guess is when the reach puberty.

Stormy Day
laughing out loud

who?-kid
Spiderman_RJ, you don't have to convince me : I know, just like you do, that the movie was an honest and faithful adaptation. Too bad some "true fans" don't realize that a comic is not a film and vice versa.

The fact they don't realize this, proves one thing: that they haven't read much books that were translated to the big screen. Everybody knows that changes are always made. Always !! No exceptions !!

If you think you're going to get a movie adaptation following your specific wishes and preferences, you're fooling yourself. Why oh why is this so hard to understand ?

Furthermore, if Stan Lee was crazy about the movie, it's good enough for the rest of the world.

Spiderman_RJ

Stormy Day
Um spiderman does swing like he does in the comics What the f**k?

Freddy_vs_Jason
I agree with who?-kid, you won't find any movie thats been adapted from a comic/book to be 100% true. Maybe when you actually DO become a true Spider-Man fan and quit calling him Man-Spider you'll realise this. Why does it matter to have the webshooters anyway!?

Stormy Day
I know manspider is so stupid that downing the comics right there sad

And like FvJ said not every comicbook adaption is correct look at DareDevil the Kinpin is white in the comics not black.

Mooky
I guess the faithful would rather that Peter Parker was a teen-age kid from the '60s too, just to keep faithful to the "Bible." Aunt May and Uncle Ben should be watching "My Mother the Car" on TV. While they're at it, in Spiderman 2, they should have Flash Thompson go and fight in the Vietnam War, like in the comic book, then come back with a Vietnamese girlfriend, like in the comic book. Then they should bring back the disco villain from the '70s (I forgot his name) for Spiderman 3, of course during all this time of historical change, Peter Parker has aged only 4-5 years.

Things get updated folks. The comic is over 40 years old, a lot has changed. In the early 60's, radiation and radioactivity was still relatively new to the general public. Very few people even knew what it did. We know better now, it causes cancer. So they updated the 60's pseudoscience with 21st century pseudoscience. No big deal.

For the general audience, it's probably more reasonable for Spiderman to actually have the power to shoot organic webbing than to believe that a 18 year old kid could create some kind of super polymer. Hell if he could, he could have sold it to Oscorp for a couple million easy. Then he wouldn't have needed to go wrestling and probably would have stayed home and Uncle Ben could still be alive.

I notice almost nobody mentions that Spiderman sticks to walls differently than in the comic. In the comic it's supposed to be some kind of molecular bonding where electrons swap and stuff. Try explaining that to an audience without it getting boring. Hell, I thought it was a stupid explanation in the comic. In addition, spiders don't stick to walls with molecular bonding. They stick on with tiny claws and hairs. If you ask me, it's more believable this way.

I think Sam Raimi did a remarkable job. He stayed true to the important aspects of the character and the important aspects of the story. The guys who think the most important part of Spiderman is that he have home made web shooters, don't get Spiderman.

What makes Spiderman special is that he's the only hero a typical comic book reader will be able to identify with. He's not an alien from another planet. He's not a billionaire industrialist. He started off as a high school geek, which I'm sure a lot of readers will identify with. Then he moved on to college, although he eventually dropped out. Then he married. Like the rest of us, he has money problems. He has job problems. He has girlfriend problems. He's human. That's what makes the Spiderman story compelling, not his stupid web shooters.

who?-kid
Very well written, Mooky.

Hopefully some of this will change the minds of the so-called "true Spider-Man fans".

But I doubt it...

Red Superfly
That's a great idea!

F*** Venom and The Lizard, I wanna see Purple Man and Stiltman!

Spiderman_RJ
what? who is stilman? i dont know him..........

Red Superfly
Um, he's a man who has legs like Inspector Gadget. Suck-ass.

I should have made my sarcasm more clear roll eyes (sarcastic)

Spiderman_RJ
oh that pink like robot?if its him it not only his leg his arm are also.

Spiderman_RJ
they should bring that bunnt girl and her assitents., ill post a scan soon. hehehe.

Red Superfly
Stiltman in all his glory

His powers actually aren't that bad. He's still very silly.

I fear this topic has wanderred off course.

vegeance
organics suck

Stormy Day
not they dont

Mr Parker
they only DONT suck if your a MAN-SPIDER fan and not a spider-man fan.Me and vengence are spider-man fans so the organics suck for us. big grin

Stormy Day
Ok.

*bows to the true spideryfans*

hmm stan lee liked this movie and it was his creation if he liked it then we should like it to.But the "true spiderman fans" have to get mad about something so small and silly.Oh well im not a true spiderman fan roll eyes (sarcastic)

Spiderman_RJ
stop self attack , and dont dare use that name man -spider on my topic.

Stormy Day
Im on yourside dude but manspider is in the thread name confused

Mooky
Hey, if you happen to think that home made web shooters are the thing that makes Spiderman who he is, then more power to ya. I guess if I go out and make myself some web shooters, then I'd be Spiderman. Even better, if Doc Ock somehow "stumbled" onto the formula, then he'd be Spiderman! Then you could have Spiderman vs. Spiderman. If Doc Ock shared his formula with Norman Osborn, then we could have Spiderman vs. Spiderman vs. Spiderman. Forget all the "with great power comes great responsibility" stuff, it's the web shooters! That's the true essence of Spiderman. Now I know the deal. I am now converted.

Stormy Day
Actually you can buy webshooters at walmart for $20 big grin

Spiderman_RJ
imade mine it cost me about 200 $$ but it only does shooitng a glue thing or tunr it into a stick

Spiderman_RJ
here is the girl i was talking about. shemust be in spidey 3

Stormy Day
I cant turn my neck that much sad

Daywalker
I'm trying to figure out who died and made you the authority on Spiderman. Sorry but you're just another Spiderman fan like millions of others, no more, no less.

The webshooters are cool gadgets and help to create cliffhangers in stories like Superman's kryptonite. Actually I don't understand why they didn't give him organic webbing in the first place.

Spiderman_RJ
that would be becouse spider man was first concept as a fly -man, then spiderman soulded cooler stan lee , sayd it himself once

Spiderman_RJ
just get that pic and turn it on paint

Daywalker
I remember this from the man spider hate thread. End result, Spiderman has webbing, what's the big deal? I'll bet if Spidey was first created with organic webbing there wouldn't be a big fuss over it.

Spider-Man is Spider-Man so says the creator of Spider-Man roll eyes (sarcastic) Bob Kane wasn't too keen about his dynamic duo having nipples in the movies but that didn't make him Bondage Bat. Point being, the essence of the character is still there and fans should be glad that there is a Spider-Man movie at all instead of being ungrateful.

Daywalker
Like this?

Stormy Day
There was a man-spider hate thread?

Daywalker
I'm just talking about the one that "Mr Parker" created.

Mr Parker
whatever,people like me,vengence and bakerboy who hate those moronic organic webshooters are spider-man fans,the people who accept this stupid movie and like those stupid organics were once spider-man fans but now they are only man-spider fans.the reason he did not have organics in the beginning is because for one,the webbing would shoot out of his a$$,there is no reason for the webbing to shoot out of his wrists,none at all!!!! also a spider spins its webbing so there is no reason in hell for him to be shooting webbing in the first place.plus if he had organics,the webbing would not dissolve for days which would litter the whole city of new york if he had organics,thats why he never had those moronic organics webs in the first place.

Spiderman_RJ
that what i said parker , but not days weeks, and calm down no personal ofense, ok?

Spiderman_RJ
theres no reason it would shoot from his ass, becouse he was meant to be a SUPER HERO!!!!!!!! and its comics novel not SCI -FI

who?-kid

Daywalker
I hate to break it to you but most if not all superheroes and villains are not realistic and rules are bent in the comic world to make them seem cool.

If this is the case, you should hate heroes that will themselves to fly then(Superman). We all know that you need some sort of propulsion to fly right?

Even as realistic as Batman can be, all of his abilities are not possible(stealth with that huge cape, jumping off of buildings and gliding with his cape etc).

Maybe the mutation happened in Peter's wrists because he uses his hands alot, who knows.

Most heroes/villains origins are BS anyway but we know it's a fictional story so it works.

I tell you what, after I finish posting this, i'm gonna fill up an eyedrop bottle with radioactive waste and flush my eyes with it so I can become a better acrobat and I can hear better roll eyes (sarcastic) roll eyes (sarcastic) roll eyes (sarcastic) WTF????? laughing out loud laughing out loud laughing out loud

C'mon man, you're trying to introduce real facts to science fiction...........fiction being the key word.

Daywalker
Well said Who?-kid

who?-kid
thx Blade wink.

Spiderman_RJ
like i said its comic novel not SCI-FI

Mr Parker
not well said at all daywalker.the webbing would shoot out of his ass and the reason so is spiders spin their webbing from the "BACKEND" of their bodys-boy your the one that knows nothing about spiders. roll eyes (sarcastic) thats just not at all realistic to think that somehow he could tap his fingers on his palms and somehow the webbing- somehow by a miracle shoots out of his wrists-right whatever and somehow by another miracle it does not destroy the blood wessels and veins in his body,yeah right. roll eyes (sarcastic) again there is no reason in hell for him to be shooting webbing in the first place,a point you conviently ignored. also to be able to shoot the webbing out of his arms,he'd have to have popeye like arms to be able to store all that webbing to do so.You also just explained for me why this movie betrays the character and comicbook.the comic calls him the non mutant superhero and he was a non mutant before without the organics,with the organics,he is NOW a mutant huge difference,character betrayed. roll eyes (sarcastic) thats something you manspider fans dont seem to be able to grasp though and just want to be the apologists for all the shortcomings of this film.I for one am through explaining this because like I said,you just want to be the apologists for all the shortcomings of this film and defend all of their stupid changes that were made only for the sake of change,nothing more. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Stormy Day
Lets make a thread where theres a poll and people can vote whether they like ManSpider theory of Spiderman.

darth rep
Its only a movie based on a comic. Why can't people enjoy it for what it is and not get all bend out of shape?

Daywalker
Sure it is roll eyes (sarcastic)

I read a nice Batman graphic novel but that doesn't change the fact that he's a comic book/sci-fi character

Daywalker
We've all heard the joke about Spiderman's webbing coming out of his ass for accuracy but we know that would never happen. Perhaps in some underground porno but not Marvel or any other comics. So Spidey would need huge forearms to house the webbing and his blood vessels would be damaged huh? Makes you wonder how Wolverine houses those ginsu knives in his arms.

BTW mutants are simply people born with special abilities. Peter wasn't born with his powers so organic or not, he could never be a mutant.

Daywalker
I wish I could tell you why. Truthfully, alot of people are happier when they find things to complain about.

who?-kid

Stormy Day
Well said WHO?-KID well said big grin

Red Superfly
Actually, the movie kinda made his Spider-sense kinda realistic, in the way he sees things in slo-mo. Now sure, Spider's are probably one of the easiest critters in the world to smash with your foot, but I read that insects and bugs that small have a sense of relativity.

I like to think of Pete's Spider Sense as a muated version of the theory of relativity used to describe how flies can react and escape a fly-swatter so quickly.

We must remember that Stan Lee could have thought up the spider-sense idea (just called "super-response" powers or something) because as we all should know, 'Spider-Man' was just a name that sounded cool for a wall crawling hero.

I don't care, I love the Spider-Sense, and I'd say that's what gives him an edge over most enemies, and makes Spider-Man stick out from the crowd as much as his webbing.

Dark Vengeance
hes still Man-spider!!!

Stormy Day
nope he isnt wink

Mr Parker
EXACTLY.spider-man is a guy with chemical shooters,thats not the guy we saw on the screen. roll eyes (sarcastic) no way in hell you can call this movie spiderman. roll eyes (sarcastic) geez if they took away his super strength and made him into a normal person with normal strength I have no doubt youd all still call him spiderman. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Mr Parker
I did not want to return to this thread but here goes.well for me it was a lot more than just the organics that ruined the movie,it had a horrible script that looked like it was written by a 5 year old.

Spiderman_RJ

Daywalker
Normal people? If you're going to "attempt" to belittle others, don't beat around the bush. BTW, I haven't been a teenager for 11 years now.

Actually, I didn't care for the "genetic super spider" angle. WTF would anyone be creating a super spider for??? Let's send the flight suit, glider and super spiders to Iraq to fight for us, laughing out loud roll eyes (sarcastic) I see nothing funny about the radioactive spider concept and I think that's what they should have used. Hell, it seems to be the going origin theme with Marvel anyway right? Radioactive waste, radioactive spiders, gamma rays, it's all the same.

I'm not sure I follow what you're trying to say about the radioactive spider then people calling him man spider. That makes no sense because it's Peter's real origin and "normal" people would be able to grasp the concept anyway. Target kids huh? I'm not sure of your age but teenagers nowadays are very mature and love the adult themes. It's Spider-Man, he used to appear on Sesame Street laughing Webhead is an iconic character like Batman and they're not going to tarnish that image.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Spider-man was the perfect movie but it wasn't horrible.

Spiderman_RJ
i dint said that. i meant it is teenager, look at the unecessary sceme of lunchroom, just i meant the fun is like the teen movies, my older didnt like that scene, but like me everyone a the theate cheered on it.
i mean kids today iff see a man being bitten by a radioactive spider would say" that sucks, he tunred into a mutant, he should be called man spider muhahah, it looks like those trash movies"
i do prefer de radio aproach but what can i do its done

Daywalker
The lunchroom scene was decent but the fight in the hallway was over the top. It may have been more believable if Peter didn't cut that huge backflip. I can't see them making a Spider-Man movie outside of the teenage realm because he's such a clean family fun oriented character. He has some dark moments in the comic books but on the grand scale, he's just a boyscout.

I think most people know the origin of Spider-Man and I don't think it would freak them out enough to call him a monster or "Man Spider"

Spiderman_RJ
maybe on your country...................here even those who know would...........

The Unknown
What's the difference between Spider-man and Man-Spider?

The Unknown
IMO, the web-shooters would have been cool, but organic is easier to have for the movies and also works well with the plot of the second one. Like said before, they change stuff all the time in the movies. Like in the X-Men movies, they totally changed the X-Men team and some of the powers. They also changed the way stuff happens (like with the Phoenix). They do what works best for the big-screen.

Ghetto Goblin
man spider sounds stupid, mabey it's just cuz i am not used to it, but spiderman makes a better name. what do you mean by organic stuff-a-magigee?

Spiderman_RJ
long ago in a far distance star..........someone who hated spiderman movie started to calling it man spider to bach and anooys people who liked it.
in spiderman movie he has natural webing,(organic) in the comics its shoot with a web shooter (chemical made)

FeceMan
Can't Mr Parker ever just give it a rest?

Daywalker
Nope and this dead horse is starting to attract flies roll eyes (sarcastic)

Ironman 66
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Spiderman_RJ
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i won!

Mr Parker
Okay since someone chose to resurrect this thread I will explain it to you.The difference is Spider-Man is a guy with mechanical devices on his wrists who CREATED chemical webbing.MAN-SPIDER is a term for being a monster.In the 90's toon he drank a potion and transformed into a 8 legged 6 armed hairly monster.Well even thats not who you saw in the films he is still a MAN-SPIDER because he is a damn monster now because sony made him into a monster by having webs shoot out of his body which is plain gross and disgusting,so the character we were really exposed to on the screen was MAN-SPIDER not spider-man. mad and people here just cant comprehend that they saw the character of manspider on the screen. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Daywalker
We comprehend more than you know. Not everyone here agrees with you, that's all cool

Spiderman_RJ

Mr Parker
Yes I agree with you RJ that this thread should be closed,since its your thread,why dont you just pm PAOLA and ask her to close it? sorry cant change the message under my name. I wanted to say SONYS MAN-SPIDER MOVIES SUCK but there was not enough room to get it printed on so actually you got off easy. big grin

Spiderman_RJ
ITS SPIDER_MAN, end of history.

Ghetto Goblin
spiderman, spiderman, spins a web like a spider can,

bla bla bla,

in the chill of the night, at the scene of the crime,

bla bla bla,

spiderman, spiderman, LOOK OUT, here comes the spiderman.

Ghetto Goblin
i don't know all of the words, and why do you care, YOU DON'T, HA HA, i am going crazy like the green gobling, and insane like the joker, but at least i have my wits like SPIDERMAN.

LOOK OUT, here come's the spiderman.

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