Who is more powerful? Lex Luthor or Kingpin?
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WindDancer
Who do you think is more powerful? Kingpin, and his organize mob or Lex Luthor with Lex Corp?
Does Kingpin have more money than Lex?
Does Lex has more technological weapons than Kingpin?
Does Kingpin have more allies?
Who do you think is more powerful?
Herr Logan
It's hard to say who had more assets and power when they were both on relatively equal footing in society, but now Lex Luthor is the President of the United States of America. Normally, I'd say Wilson Fisk was more powerful than the current President, but because Lex Luthor is just like him, I'd say a kingpin-type President is the most powerful non-metahuman villain you can have.
Stripped of their money and titles, they have different kinds of specialized intelligence. Luthor is a brilliant scientist, and Fisk is a brilliant strategist. Both of them operate in much the same way-- behind the scenes, with others hired to do their dirty work.
shaber
Luthor is president

I thought he was dying due to that kryptonite ring he was always carrying around?

WindDancer
Yes is true that Luthor is president. So he does have political power. The thing with Kingpin is that he controls organize crime in NY. Lately his empire is expanding global, so he is in away ahead of Luthor when it comes to Organize crime.
Eidolon
Lex is a genius tech wise and good at organizing crime as well. Kinpin may be a better Mob boss but Lex could take him I think.
Viper
I think Lex has more intelligence and resources
Darth Jello
in his prime (circa Daredevil:Born again), Kingpin had control of politicians, military commanders, and nearly all the crime in the country. He was also incredibly physically imposing, able to best most superhuman opponents in hand to hand combat. He also at one point or another, had Bullseye, Nuke, Elektra, Bushwacker, Bullet, Ammo, The Wild Boys, Allistair Smyth, and Typhoid Mary on his payroll. the world's deadliest assassins (minus deadpool). His sole mistakes were developing a bad relationship with his son, a weakness for his wife, and an obsession with daredevil. now he is scarred, severely injured, friendless, peniless, and in prison for the rest of his life.
WindDancer
Didn't his son became the Rose? As I remenber Wilson Fisk was rebuilding his empire again. With more mobsters and more powerful weapons than before.
MaverickIce
In Superman/Batman #6 which came out last week, Luthor isn't president, and currently Kingpin is Dead or Missing
Never
Wow, would go with Lex Luthor. More often than not, only Superman stood in his way of world dominance. He has many more resources at his disposal than does Kingpin (I.Q., assets, partners in crime).
Luthor = global threat. Kingpin = mob boss in NYC; maybe contiguous US threat.
WindDancer
Well, Kingpin does have Daredevil, Punisher, Spiderman as enemies. Luthor only has Superman so is kinda like this:
Luthor must deal with a reporter (Superman) Whereas Kingpin has to deal with a photographer (Spiderman), a lawyer (Daredevil), and vietnam vet with a large arsenal (Punisher). So Kingpin is less powerful cuz he has more enemies.
LeAtHerRFace
Kingpin, would smash Lex.
Darth Jello
kingpin isn't dead,he's in jail, ruined for life. As for the rose...killed by his own mother.
Herr Logan
Why the hell Wilson let his psychotic traitor of a son hang around after all the many times he's tried to kill him, I'll never understand. Does anyone else realize that within the last five years, the Kingpin has been supposedly "killed" about 3 or 4 times? Two times ago if left him blind. After the last time, he came back with reconstructive surgery. They're really short on ideas over there. They oughtta put that rat-bastard lazy pot-head Kevin Smith back on the book so he can kill some more long-term characters off other than Fisk, who always comes back within 5 issues or so.
kal-el
yeah, fisk and DD have fought on nearly every level.Hey,you think now that Murdock has declared himself kingpin, fisk will comeback as a superhero? ...............FATMAN!-able to eat large pies in single gulp...faster......at eating than a speeding sumo.
octapushunter
Well Lex Luger was a hell of a wrestler in his day, but he's pretty washed up now. Kingpin could bowl pretty well, but he only had one hand.... its close....and the decision goes to.....
Lex Luger!!!!
WindDancer
Please stay on topic. Otherwise, don't post irrelevant comments.
Darth Jello
let's also not forget that Fisk led HYDRA for awhile
WindDancer
Didn't he also hired "The hand" ninjas to assinate Daredevil? I also think that Kingpin has the best assasin under his wing. Bullseye!
Darth Jello
no, the hand was his competition, he used DD to eliminate them
VENOMfan
yeah back in the day Kingpin had a esembeld narly team
WindDancer
I didn't know that. Now I understand why the hand have always targeted DD. So what's that a plot made by Kingpin to make the hand and DD enemies. Or was it something personal between Kingpin and the hand?
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