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Bush is the president of the country you live in. Show some damn respect.

If he was that much of a war pig, we'd be head to head with the Koreans a couple of months ago.

I watched the Democratic convention last night, and if it's between "a war pig" and that ass clown of a democratic representative John Kerry. I'd vote Bush, over and over again.

This years Presidental election isn't going to be about picking "the best man for the job" it's going to be about picking the lesser of two evils.

yep, this Nov, ppl will pike the person they hate the least, not like, sadly.

I don't think he's a war pig, he's just a moron.

Also, just because he happens to be our president doesn't mean he is void from cricism and deserves any respect. Respect is earned, I'll give him respect when he does something to earn it.

Arachnoid in theory no political or religious threads are allowed, if things go too far and they usualy do they will be closed.

*YAAAAAWN*

Bush, Bush, Bush....all these talk about Bush makes me wanna Snooze.

Bush: cuts funding to homeless programs and shelters even though there are 3 million more people homeless than at the start of his term. As a whole, people are makingn 9.8% less than they did at the start of his term. he has the worst environmental out of any president ever. he started a war on shaky intelligence.

yeah, he deserves respect

and a medal!

I think he deserves a swift kick to the nuts.

yeah, i heard he likes shiny objects

just one BF?

Hey - thats not right, seriously you can't mean that, even if a politician does a spectacularly bad job thats no reason to wish them harm.

Besides, if it's "swift" you run the chance of missing the sac: better to be slower and deliberate and remember to put your whole weight into it. That way he will appreciate it more.

You people give Bush too much credit.
He's a dumb puppet!
His daddy's old friends are pulling all of the strings.

He just gets up in front of the mic and butchers his carefully arranged speeches and flashes that annoying buffoon grin of his!

Tex is right

That's why bush almost never answers questions he got out of the blue (for which he had no help about answering) and if he does you can really notice the difference.

I think you are all Liberals

and you people act like its an easy job being president. Stop complaining. If hes so bad then why dont you run for president and make everything better? becuase you probley couldnt.

but kerry is. and he is better than bush

why did he in the election i wonder! nobody likes him!

at this point, I think anyone is better than bush. honestly, the guy is such a dimwit.

i dont like burhs

GO GO GO GO GOG GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO KERRYYYY

if only you could spell Bush.

he got banned like 5 mins ago

He was banned for spamming. That's crossing the line so he's outta here!

He sure is,no doubt about that.

another one of the rare times I agree with you,thats exactly what it is,picking the lesser of the two evils.To that logic though,the lesser of the two evils then would be Kerry.

i am from the uk, so i may not know some things you americans do, but i think bush has done the best he could with the situation!

he went to war, which is always risky from both a life and political point of view. he set himself the task of taking down the whole westen terror culture.

and if kerry or any of the other had been in the same situation he would be facing the same un-popularity.

bush made a mistake by going after saddam, and doig it under the banner of 'weapons of mass destrotion'. if he had just said that he was going in to remove sddam, it may have gone better.

tony blair faces similar things across here, mainly for been bushs lap dog

I like Kerry and Edwards!!!

thats not the main reason why many people think he's such a bad president. its cause he's just plain stupid.

BUSH+BLAIR=MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE!!
vote Bush or go back to communist china!!!

vote bush and live in poverty

It's extremely hard being president, even harder being a good president.

Which he by no means is.

And it troubles me that anyone who disagrees with this administration is branded as being unpatriotic and a complainer.

Bullshit, as Americans we have every right to voice our concern and disdain over an incompetent president that has severely handicapped America!

Stop complaining is what the British told us when we were being taxed without representation!

true^^^

What western terror culture?

I see your point as well. The one thing that bugs me is that ppl keep saying is that they want change in our nation. And for some bizzare reasons they keep thinking that by electing Kerry everything will be better.

Bush gone, Kerry enters......is the same BS! Politics suck period!

Those gay terrorists from San Francisco!

Agreed

there was a game called Earth 2150, its about that idea they used a lotery to pick presidents and then after some bad mishaps used AI and the AI mistaken a threat and released all of its nukes destroying the world

I love Bush!


Oh - this is about politics, my mistake.

Bush does make some mistakes but newsflash: every body does.

Mr Zero:

This is fun. Play Game.

In the words of Dave Chappelle: "Whatever happened to that recount in Florida?" Oh, and I agree with Tex's puppet statement.

Edwards has an STD on his lip hahaha

probably those British student that he questioned who introduced Bush to a new location for WALES namely where it has always been.

bush is a retard, the guy cant even say nuclear-come on

its called accents

Bush is the man yo, hey he is the common man. Look at his first lady, she is dignified and everything a first lady shound be.. Kerry's wife isnt even american, she lies and tells the pres to go shove them thelves. What the hell is that? Kerry is a billionaire, bush is an average man. bush wants to keep jobs in America, Kerry want to create jobs in maerica by moving them over seas. The economy is the best it has ever been in the last 20 years THIS IS FACT PEOPLE. what THE hell are you complaining about, i mean come on KERRY is going to raise taxes and and make harder on you than it alread yit is to make ends meet.

Is running mate is an ambualnce chaser, He's made his money by suing all your doctors out of there jobs. Yeah lets vote for a kerry america because bush is a real nazi, he just wants to do whats right

Hey rages: Play Game.

dont forget , kerry uses his 4 months experience in veitnam as a hero's record, becuase he cam home narked on his fellow soldiers and threw away his medals, becuse he is an impressionable mind. Impressionalble minds cant be presidents, inspirational minds with strong will have to be presidents .

Yeah go ahead and Raise those taxes, raise the miniumum wage, where is the money coming from? taxes, social security and everything else It will all balance itslef out on a scale of unafordable bulshit

Bush has bad intelligence.

Kerry has bad intentions

All I can say is,

You must get all of your information from Fox News!

"The economy is the best it has ever been in the last 20 years"

Where did you get that bit of info from?
One of Bush's speeches?

i agree Tex.

And I'll assume you get all of your news from The New York Times.

...Fox is not bias. Look at they're prime time line up: O'Reilly (I), Hannity (R) and Colmes (D). That seems pretty balanced to me.

Not to mention the poll data released in which like 80% of people thought the media was bias, but only 40% thought Fox News was.

Yea...the economy is the worst it has been since the Great Depression. $500 TRILLION deficit. Wow.

The economy could be bad... But it's in no way that bad... Just go talk to someone who was alive during the Depression.

And I just love how every post is basically a party talking point (both Rep. and Dem.)

Turn off Hannity or Moore, and think!

I didn't say it was AS bad, I said it's the worst SINCE. there's a difference. a big one.

one and a half million jobs have been created within the past 6 months

That is true. We are exiting a recession...

more have been lost. than that so we are still in the job hole. you failed to mention this is the summer. what happens in the summer? summer jobs of course low paying crap jobs for teens that is what. plus the decent jobs that have been created are lower paying.

summer teen? who gives a shit ? get a fu*ckin job and work. save your money instead of spending it on stupid shit. Wait untill you get out in the real world and the summer jobs become useless, because you need to get a career. People are afraid to work fora living anymore, in the real world taxes hurt, taxes hurt a shit load and raising them isnt going to make things better man.

the recent economic increase is because of summer jobs. ask any economist.

I dont need Moore to tell me that Mr. Bush is an incompetent puppet who rushed into Iraq based on inaccurate intelligence, ignoring the UN and our greatest allies advice, went in anyways with no clear or concise plan of success.

A president who promised to shrink the size of the US government and limit spending has drastically increased its size and amassed the largest deficit in US history.

A president who touted himself as "A uniter, not a divider", has completely split the country in half.
Not since the civil war has America been so divided.

The only president ever to attempt to change the Constitution of the United States to encompass his prejudiced religious theology.
Amendments are added to assure more freedoms and rights, not take them away from a select few.

Dont even get me started on the economy, his administrations attempt to censure "immoral and indecent" people off the nations airwaves, the religious fanatical federal judge's he's nominated, Dick Cheney's illegal ties with Halliburton in Iraq, and so on and so on.

8 million jobs have been lost during Bush's term. About 2 million have been regained. 2 million low paying jobs, many temporary that do not include benefits. Crap jobs. Not replacing the goods ones lost. He's done nothing to stimulate the economy, nothing with health insurance, social security, education...he's been devoting all of his attention to Iraq, a place we should've never entered!

very true tex

this is sort of off-topic, but what'd you think of him when he was governor, Tex?

I liked him as Governor.

Texas is a big state that pretty much runs itself, he was also Gov during those roaring Clinton years, things were good for everyone, the economy was strong, plenty of jobs, as Gov he was hardly heard from, one of the reasons I must've liked him!

I thing that I hope is that this "president hating" dies down a little bit. First the loathing of Clinton, and now the hate for Bush... I'm getting a little tired of it.

Though the unemployment rate under Clinton was only .1 less then it is now.

Clinton inherited a horrible economy from Dubya's dad.
It took that wonderful man one whole term to erase the damage that horrific Bush #1 did. By Clinton's second term the economy was glamorous! winkiss

"President Hating"??? Well you cant blame us babe. He's a cancer. People tend to hate cancer, they want it gone.

But they say W inherited a bad economy from Clinton.



and as for the other matter: Clinton had the same hate as Bush has. It's more then just either one of them being a bad president...

The only people who really hated Bush are the loser idiots who were pissed off about him getting a blow job in the oral office. Most other people were incredibly satisfied with his work. Not just people in this country either, but the rest of the world liked him quite a bit as well.

No, people hated Clinton cause he lied to their faces. (I know a lot of Clinton haters. as for myself, eh)

And most people weren't incredible satisfied with him. He never got over 50% of the vote.

Maybe, but he was far more liked then Bush, especially in the rest of the world.

Things were so good back then that people could only b!tch and whine about Bill lying about BJ's.

The economy was starting to go south when Bush came in, I'll give you that. But he has done nothing to help it. You dont help the economy by going to an unnecessary war. And his tax cut was shit too!

Clinton was a President, Dubya is a messenger boy.

Not to sound like a Republican Attack Dog but...who the hell cares what the rest of the world thinks. They're doing what they think will help their country, we're doing what we think'll help our country.

...nice avatar Tex, BTW.

Yes, who cares what the rest of the world thinks? Let's just make enemies with every other country who doesn't aprove of a war being waged that's based on bad information, hate and bad intelegence. While we're at it why don't we all start speaking german and change our national phrase to "Zig Hail!".

But very well, lets just go ahead and ignore the rest of the world, there are still a huge chunk of Americans who are against the war we're fighting. Should we not at least take them into consideration?

"Who cares what the rest of the world thinks?" Have you learned nothing from Iraq?

Do you see how hard it is when your allies refuse to support you?
Iraq is a disaster, we're stretched thin.

It's a big wake up call to many American's who think that America is so big and strong it can do anything it wants.
Not true. We needed help with Iraq.

And remember that Iraq's army was practically destroyed during the first Gulf War.

Just imagine if we were to fight with N.Korea, we couldn't win going at it alone.

Right now less than half of Americans think the war was a good idea.
They assume that it was a war on terror. That Bush was protecting us from terrorists. Those claims can and have been dismissed very easily.

So they figure that Saddam was a bad man that it was warranted.
Fine, but he did not pose a threat to America, the reason Bush took us into war.

Half of America really needs to wake up!

1 - I'm not saying F*** the world. I'm saying we shouldn't change what we think is right and wrong, just because some other country doesn't agree. How do we know they're looking out for us? They could want us to fail/be destroyed.

2 - very true... and Congress voted for the war. If a large portion of Americans don't agree with that, then more then a few Congressmen will be out of jobs next year...

Now you got me a little peeved. Iraq is not a failure in the least. It took us 7 years in Germany, and 5 years in Japan, to do what we did in 1 in Iraq. And as for military causalities...more people were murdered in Detroit alone in January, then soldiers in Iraq.

And whether Saddam was a terror threat is still under debate. No true consensus has emerged yet.


...and I hate whenever anyone says "half of America needs to wake up" cause the half of America you're talking about thinks you need to wake up. No one knows who right. It's all opinions.

Not a failure?
Did they find any WMD?
MY God!

oops. sorry. I thought you meant the rebuilding.

..that's not a failure, that's a damn bad misstake

Rebuilding?
They've destroyed 100x as much as they've built/rebuilt.
Security is so deplorable that contractors refuse to work, nothings getting done.

Why? Because we're stretched thin!
Why?
Because our allies are not helping us!
Why?
Bush ignored them, made them look like the bad guys!

Later doll, I'm outie.

Ps. Anyone who votes for Bush deserves him!winkiss

yeah, I gotta go to... Fun arguing with you Tex.

no yeah there country, entire country has clean drinking water which they never had before, there electrical grid is as good as ours

Bush annoys the hell out of me. His stupidity is amazing. However, Tony Blair is even bigger shit than Bush.

Bush is dumb, but Blair is following him arround. Bush says jump, Blair says how high! Idiots!

atleast blair will admit he is wrong

Bush graduated from Harvard Business School, one of hardest things anyone could do.

Let's stop with the insults. Bush annoys you because you disagree with him. No need for dramatics.

Lol now here comes the noobs saying..."his daddy got him through harvard!!! I watch CNN so i know everything!"


Yeah people just becuase you disagree with him no need to insult him.

I can insult Bush as much as i please. I dont think hes a moron because i disagree with him, I disagree with him BECAUSE hes a moron!

I mean, anyone hear his last speach?

'' Our enemy is inovative and resorsful - and so are we
They never stop thinking of ways to harm our country and our people - and so do we ''

Wow, Harvard Business School will be really proud of their graduates!

Whats even more worrying is that those speaches were written for him, and he was ment to rehears those!!
You really have to be a complete moron to do that!

Have you every heard him go off teleprompter?
OMFG it's halrious.

Funny..

Bush does not annoy me. He makes me laugh. But his admnistration and some of his "friends" annoy me! Yes! :

I bet he bought his graduation :rolleyes

He did buy his graduation. I didnt even see the point of bringin up the fact he graduated from Harverd Business School. That certainly didnt prevent him from being an idiot.

Yes Very true.There is also evidence that Bush knew the 9/11 tradgedy would happen and didnt do a damn thing to try and stop it.

Priceless!

Everyone try this


You can make Bush say anything you want!!


http://www.actofme.co.uk/bush_speech/bushspeechwriter.html


Im so amused

hysterical

And again... and again.... and again...

I made him say :

''God Bless America, the slave holding society obtained with the help of Iraq''

This reminds me of a few years ago. I used to dislike Clinton (while everyone else was praising him) and never like him for his idiotic decisions. But then I realise that no matter how much I would make fun of him or call him names.....at the end of the day he was still president. Now Bush is president and he is now the center of attention. I laugh at all the jokes and the name calling (I think is quite funny) but again at the end of the day......he still the president. Catching my drift?

He wont be for long!

Yeah, I do! hes the face of America everyone laughs at.

wasnt expecting anything less

u know.. i thnk bush thinks the same... but now almost every country in the world hate americans bcoz of that bush of urs, and well u might not care but a lot of ppl do, and 6 years ago or less, americans were luved all over the world coz they were really cool, but now even in china i mean like no offense but a very undeveloped country has millions of ppl who hate americans...

and please PLEASE dont b so closed minded and say 'I dont care what other ppl think' coz man i gotta tell u the world is getting smaller everyday

China? Underdeveloped? It's the country with the highest growth-rate in the world!!

And no - six years ago the whole world didn't love the US, and today not everyone in the world HATES the US. It's propaganda, meant to alienate Americans and Europeans and I refuse to buy into that.

We're all PEOPLE fer petes sake!

speak for yourself, damnit

over the weekend, i lost a very good friend...over bush

as with any discussion in regards to politics, religions, and politicians the debate became very heated; on his part...

his view is that bush is evil incarnate. and when he utters said word it is filled with venom and hatred for a man who is leader of our country...i have no love for the man, but to consider him in league with Hitler, Stalin, Idi Amin, Pol Pot and Hussein seemed a bit overly extreme...i asked: has he committed genocide on a scale similar to them.?..he replied: he didn't have to, look at our economy our freedoms...slowly but surely he's taking them away he added.

then i asked: but has he sent out or created a secret police network to monitor our thoughts and words? destroy free thinking, abolish all religions other than what Bush deems appropriate? jailed dissident politicians not in line with his thinking? set up internment camps?

his reply: he's still evil!!! to which he added I was a Bush lover, and in retort i said in defence: Kerry is no better...his policies are questionable, his voting records for laws and decrees are suspect...his services in the military are debatable...his morals are a facade for the benefit of the voters in the midwest...

an hour after all this, it was decided that my friend and I could not see eye to eye on the matter, which more or less lead to our not speaking...

RESUME
GEORGE W. BUSH
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20520
United States

EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE

Law Enforcement:
I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the
influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's
license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been
"lost" and is not available.

Military:
I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to
take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By
joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty
in Vietnam.

College:
I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a cheerleader.

PAST WORK EXPERIENCE

I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil
business in Midland, Texas, in 1975. I bought an oil company, but
couldn't find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly
after I sold all my stock. I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team
in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. With the
help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including
Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS

- I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies,
making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure,
Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.
- I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of
billions in borrowed money.
- I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history.
- With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida, and my
father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after
losing by over 500,000 votes.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT

- I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a
criminal record.
- I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over
one billion dollars per week.
- I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.
- I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.
- I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any
12-month period.
- I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
- I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of
the U.S. stock market. In my first year in office, over 2 million
Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month.
- I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any
administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza
Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.
- I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. President.
- I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the
most corporate campaign donations.
- My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best
friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy
fraud in U.S. History, Enron.
- My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys
to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election
decision.
- I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against
investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent
investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent
investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history. I
presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused
to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.
- I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.
- I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be
awarded government contracts.
- I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any
President in U.S. history.
- I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest
bureaucracy in the history of the United States government.
- I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S. history.
- I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations
remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.
- I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.
- I refused to allow inspector's access to U.S. "prisoners of war"
detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.
- I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations
election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).
- I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any
President since the advent of television.
- I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year
period. After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over
the worst security failure in U.S. history.
- I garnered the most sympathy ever for the U.S. after the World
Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the
most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in
world history.
- I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to
simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people),
shattering the record for protests against any person in the history
of mankind.
- I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked,
pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation.
I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S.
citizens, and the world community.
- I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut
in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families in wartime.
- In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for
attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.
- I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans
(71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and
security.
- I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD.
- I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden
to justice.

RECORDS AND REFERENCES

- All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my
father's library, sealed and unavailable for public view.
- All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my
bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public
view.
- All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President,
attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and
unavailable for public review.
PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004!

I like how you mock my comment and then spit this dribble out.

Thanks Omega...I didn't want to waste my time with this one...



oh and I particularly like the part where Tex blames the drop in stock prices on George Bush and not the terrorist attacks. Next time shoot with a loaded gun.

well mr. bush i will call you.*leaves room* hahaha how did he get eleceted with a record like that.

I really doubt Tex wrote that even if he did, hes absolutely right.

Unfourtunetly the reason it has the highest growth rate is because they use the population as slave labor thats not growth.

I agree with the propaganda.

"I will take innocent life using chemical, biological, and one day nuclear weapons, unlike Saddam Hussein. I am providing some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."

Its the funniest thing ever!!

I know it's great

I'm fully aware that he did write it, but it doesn't change the fact that the very day after the terrorists attacks....our stock market got decimated. It was an uphill battle since.

Totally Bush's fault....I'm sure!

Great post Tex

oops...i meant DIDN'T write it.

I got that in an e-mail.
It originally appeared in some magazine.

a slip up ala Bush

came over this site build a better Bush

lol, pretty cool. Time to build a better (or worse, lol) Bush

I never knew what a hick Bush looks like when hes bald and has bad teeth.

if you give him a bald head, evil eyes, and a big smile, he looks really really scary

If you give him regular eyes, needs a shave and bad hair dye he kind of looks like Dennis Miller.

Combover/idiot eyes/bad teeth !

I tried to save it and post it here but it only saves in bits.

I cannae be bothered stiching the three bits together and then reducing it to be the right size for the forum.

A hoot anyway !

Bald, Winking, Big Smile

awesome

http://img65.exs.cx/img65/1743/untitled228.jpg

From an interview I found online:

"George W. Bush is an extremely evil person, and what he is doing is going to bring us down. He is going to make it very difficult for me to travel around the world because I am an American, and people will look at me in exactly the same way they used to look at Germans when they were traveling in the Fifties, right after World War II. We are living in McCarthyism, The Third Reich, and people don't even realize it.

Look at the events of September 11. The person who profited from that was the President of the United States-the same one who was not elected by the people but instead by a fault in the electoral system. His public opinion was at an all-time low, so he benefited from it. His family's oil, war, and weapons interests all benefited. And everyone was so scared that they willingly gave up their civil rights, so that if anyone discovers how evil this guy is, they can't do anything about it.

It really amazes me that the American people are just blindly letting this go on. They are not even considering the possibility that their government could be lying to them. It is absolutely nauseating."

Wow Maynard sure gave realistic points about our President.

What really disturbs me is just as Maynard said is how we the people gave up one of our civil rights so easily, when so many people died to give them to us.

now anybody with an authorative position can burst into our house without a warrant, geez, does that suck or what.

I know, Bush is such a f*cking moron. The ironic thing about this is that I found this part of the interview on a forum, in a thread called, "Maynard James Keenan from Tool is a traitor!" or some bullshit like that.

People who do things like that are only adding fuel to the fire. Nobody's going to change their opinion because of what one right wing nutcase says. What they're going to do is go out and buy tickets for Tool. Like the Dixie Chicks thing... One of them insulted Bush, and they had this big fight with Toby Keith, and they sold out their entire tour.

Looks like Maynard has been watching Farenheit 9/11.

Actually I think he said that before it came out... Could be wrong though

cry I knew this man was my hero for a reason!

What can i say, Maynard James Keenan, name says it all!

You obviously dont know first thing about Maynard if you think a documentary/movie can brainwash him into believing anything.

I know

Hmm...I've heard it all before. Solid points, but nothing new.

Well, do you know if he has seen the film? But you're right I don't know much about him. Rock artist speaking again'st politcal figures......that's pretty typical.

Yeah it is somewhat scary if you voice your displeasure about Bush, right wing freaks call you unamerican and a traitor.

I think is great he get's to express his freedom of speech! I think we are ALL entitled to expres our own.

Yes, but any insult from a right wing dumbass is an inherint compliment when you think about it, because it means you don't have something in common with them, and that's a good thing.

Well yeah, but then you have people calling you a "traitor" because you don't like the president... That's just an outright assertion.

good point

Well, I cant sit here and talk to you or argue with you about Maynard because you evidently havent heard any of Tool's music, if you did youd understand what all of us are talking about. I would strongly suggest you look into that before coming up with comments about him.

Maynard has a mind of his own, and his grotesque but very artistic videos and clever metaphoric lyrics prove this.