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I just had an interesting experience in a certain thread ( which the title does not need any mentionin ) regardin what is consider art? And what is Obscene? Im very open to Art and I very much apreciate it

But in no-way would I accept nudity and depravation as an excuse for art. There are two people going around postin pictures about a certain so-called artist and they consider it to be art.

Well FYI it isn't! Art is for enjoyment and to make a person awe. Not to offend or even degrate a woman.

Any person with right senses can tell the difference between what is Artistic and what is Obscene.

I see art as beautiful and inspiring NOT as vulgar and perverted! Please post artist that created truly masterpieces. Because art is about making a person feel impress. Someone that makes paintings of obscene figures of nudity is just a PERVERT!

Thank you for reading this and Im hoping that most of you will agree.

well I was unaware there was even nuditiy IN this forum, Im sure RAZ would take action if it was as bad as you say

as far as ART goe's tho there are vast style's and medium's, i couldnt name them all.

I like many kind's somtimes scene's of space can be amazing.........sorta
well mostly I draw "MARVEL" style with my own twist.

well there are certain nudity that suits art and there some that dont
um... but then when you see some of the things piccaso has drwn you'd get a bit confused

I remember making a thread like this - when I wanted opinions for my coursework Art is whatever you make it out to be, what your senses feel the piece in question is.

NOTE: She is referring to the Giger thread.

Dont kid yourself mate. You have not read the whole of the thread, and the only reason you clicked the link is because Danny warned about offensive context. Thats all.

You dont have a clue what art is and what degrading women is. You might want to research on the surrealist paintings made by a WOMAN, im sure if you are so smart to tell me what art is, you at least know two surrealist women artist, right and are familiar with their work! Although to educate me on that matter you should know way more than that.

If you did know, and if you have seen their work, you would release that what you wrote is completely ridiculous.

You have the right not to agree with whatever the hell you want, but dont come in here and tell me about what is art and what isnt.

Asami said it ''Art is whatever you make it out to be, what your senses feel the piece in question is.''

^^ and that is spot on! That wat art is! Its what you make of it, its what you see.

You clearly cannot see anything beyond only whats in front of you, and i suppose thats ok for some people.

But DO NOT tell me, to go educate myself in art! Because that is very offensive to me. I know far more about it than you, obviously now, as you well demonstrated. Not only do I know more about it, but i know how to appreciate it.

Many people have visited that thread, one of them being FEMALE MODERATOR, who also is a great Giger fan, yet no one found Giger perverted or offensive.

Surrealism!! Read on the definition of it. Also while you are at it, read on the definition of pornography!

Whether you like it or not girl nudity is a big part of everything!
Do you even watch movies nowadays

Art is for enjoyment, so something you enjoy others may despise, don't kid yourself about that.

How exactly does said pic degrade a woman, have you seen some movies lately
He posted a warning, if you don't like it you should never have clicked on the link of the picture.

And many people may be impressed, art is about expressing yourself, not about censoreship, if you didn't like it, you should never have clicked the link.

Also just because we have a report button does not mean everyone should use it to feel powerful.
This is an art forum, people express themselves, I find Xena vulgar, but I don't go moaning about that

oh and by the way, your title says "what do you consider art"
last time I checked we weren't all the same person

you go girl! sorry felt that was needed

exactly!

Well.... Picasso paintings are pieces of art, inspiring it may be but to me personally I don't find it beautiful.

Remember, music is also art but doesn't mean all of it is great!

Well... Some of the greatest art ever created has been people who happen to not be wearing any clothes... (ie The Birth of Venus ) It's not degrading to women. There are tons of things that go on every day that are degrading to women--a lot of music videos, porn, etc.
Art is anything that people dream up--drawings, paintings, music, photography...

Well said Revan!

yeah well said Asami, Lil, Silver and Raven

dont you hate it when heated debate comes out of virtually normal discussion?

don't you hate it when people interupt with comments totally irrelevent to the topic

Better words have not been spoken sista!

well im just saying that this is all silly how you all are getting all bent out of shape out of spite of a simple topic...this isnt really worth yelling and debating about for....cuz the real fight is goin on in congress...and as we speak they are fighting over about all this stupid crap...lets leave it to them and enjoy art discussion eh?(i am on no ones side here i just wanna stop a conflict here)

WE are trying to enjoy the art. But when a newcomer goes arround reporting people for enjoying art, thats what becomes a problem.

She did not make this thread in hope to find out what the rest of us consider as art, she made it to bash the Giger thread as well as myself and WindDancer.

...personally...i think xena was referring to the porn link and not the art...but thats me...youll have to ask her yourself...as for newbs....hmm....maybe we should put a power limit on the newbs eh?

This has very little to do with her being a newb. And no, she has taken this thing to the welcome forum as well, bashing me in her thread, how i came down with what or whatever. AS i said before, dont vent your problems in public as no one is interested.

Number two, that was not a porn link it was a link of a Gigers painting, which WindDancer didnt want to post. He put a warning on it. Like Irene already said, just because there is a report button doesnt mean it needs to be abused.

^well said

So you went out and gather some of you friends to turn them agains't me! HA! Im not surprise. Let me tell you something I came here to enjoy some beautiful art and you come at me for no reason! You also admit that Windancer or giger or whatever his name is! was quite aware of the posibility of posting PORN! If that is the case he shoud ban for such a thing! You have proven to me that He was aware of the rules and he broke them! For something like that HE should be ban!

Like I said earlier! BackFire ( a real moderator ) deleted that link because HE can tell the difference between PORNOGRAPHY and ART! Something you need to learn yourself!

FYI I also in College and Im taking art clases I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!

Excuse me, who are you to say who is to be banned and who shouldnt!?

I have not gathered anyone, i dont have the need to. My friends are sticking up for me, not because i gathered them but because you are coming in here bashing people.

You even took this to the Welcome forum. How shamefull!

Uh! WHATEVER! You and Winddnacer and giger can stick up for each other! Really, you weirdos really defend each other!

Life is too short for arguing! Im goin to post somewhere else! Maybe Ill find more fun people out there!

Just so everyone knows, art or not, nudity isn't allowed on this site that is designed to be family friendly.

Call it what you want, it isn't allowed and claiming nudity is "art" and "beautiful" and all that cliched crap isn't going to change that.

I don't want to see anymore posts involving sex acts like the one in that other thread, they will be removed quickly.

Once again you have done a smart job

Thank you BackFire!

You all read it! BackFire says NO nudity!

excuse me did you just call me a weirdo
now that really is crossing the line!

you asked a question we answered it, it's what we consider to be art, doesn't matter what you think is or not, you asked for personal opinions!

and by the way Giger is the artist not a member

She called WindDancer a pervert... she called me a weirdo too...


Report button!!!!!!!!

yeah! lets all go report happy!

First off whether we are lil's friends or not doesn't matter, I believe you went a little far, you could have dealed with this easier, if lil and danny had crossed the line, I wouldn't stick up for them.

Second what to you is beautiful may be ugly to other people, so please don't label things with black or white terms. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's wrong.

And thirdly he posted a link, with A WARNING!! the question is why click the link if you are aware of the content in the first place

thats brilliant thinking

Too brilliant indeed!

Leonardo Da Vinci studied the human body and was fascinated by its mechanics. He painted and sculpted nudity.
'showed so marvelous a knowledge of the anatomical development of the human figure, and such extraordinary facility in the powers of execution, that it became a study for artists in every land, and by its excellence created a new era in art'

Heres "Jesus" how "God" created him.

Nudity also expresses certain feelings, like this one 'When it hurts too much to move.'




Once upon a time, about 380 years ago, a small band of British religious fanatics escaped the debauched hell-ride that was the reign of James I and lit upon the untamed shores of Plymouth, MA. These Puritans sought a place that would tolerate their faith which, ironically, was largely based on a policy of zealous intolerance. The things they did not tolerate included, (but were not limited to): Nudity, personal expression, nonconformity, most abstract thought, any vanity and, for all intents and purposes, anything that resembled human nature. Not surpisingly, this created a society of finger-pointing, self-righteous hypocrites. To this day, there is still a leftover sense in the American way of thinking that says your value as a human being is at least partly based on how loudly you can pass judgement on others (regardless of what you get up to yourself when no one is looking,) and your skill at getting with the group and morally intimidating those who disagree with you back into their place.

Sorry to refer to the Janet Jackson thing, but its like that, people see a breast and they press the panic button.
So its those few small minded people against nudity and abstract thought that creates a ridiculous taboo...
They see it as perversion not expression.

Pornography maybe called an art, but don't call this art pornography.

Hehe, he has a small pee-pee

And nudity is art; not perverted-ness. Porn is perverted, not nudity. There is a difference.

Nicely done Jez!!


Very impressive!

I will just point out, that you study art yet you aren't open minded to different things sleepy
That's very contradictory

Shes gonna probably report this anyway

whoah jez that was awesome!!!!

I remember seeing the first two before the "watershed" on TV once, so she was probably able to see them

well I am not bashing her in any way
I am answering her question

No shouting, no profanity, nothing else, but honest opinions
In my (and get this word) opinion nudity can be a form of art

and the first two we study in school so hey our school sends out pornographic images to children

Apperantly some people think that if they close their eyes and their minds, they will be protected

Porn is created to provoke sexual feeling in the user.
Art is created (apart from for the artsit themselves) to provoke some kind of response, good or bad - so this was a successful piece of art.

The perverts!

I agree, I'm gonna try reporting them
What has this day come to, when we view nudity in science during our reproduction unit, and in art during our discussions nono

Shame on our world

Excues Me!

but that is very dumb! Mila is a very sweet girl! i been readin your rants for almost 30 mins which can be counted as waste my life!

lil bitcness is one of sweetest Nicest girl in this forum! the same for winddancer he is just like Shoukan! Very polite and nice! so you shounldt call him a pervert!

And stop botherin Milla!

to me art is something that I could not creat or think of
I do not consider Picasso (most of it anywayz) or something abstract like that as art because well I can do that too. Da Vinci or Micheal Langelo or something like that that I could NOT do that's ART

ppl keep in mind ART is very very very SUBJECTIVE. You can almost not debate what can and what can not be considered art.

to put what i think is art on a normal scale i think its just a way of saying what your thinking so if your ticked off your gonna end up using bright hard colors or if your sad its sorta like you prefer to use blue and darker colors so i think its all just a way of expression (if i sound like an idiot tell me cuz i think i sound like an idiot)

okie everyone could you please keep this ON TOPIC and STOP HARRASING EACHOTHER?

it's different for everyone, so going around saying, and I quote "that is not art" directed at something is not the right thing to do, you don't like it deal with it!

too much nonsense in this thread. It's original topic has been polluted beyond any possible salvation. Feel free to start up a new thread of the same topic if you can do it withouth childish name calling and posting pictures with nudity and such.

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