just something short about organics VS webshooters

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The Ones
organics are much better because if he can do what ever a spider can in the comics, why does he need artificial weebing insted of having it in the genes. so he isnt SPIDER-man a SPIDER has WEB if he doesnt have web and has to create it. thats just dumb because he isnt SPIDER-man then. the movie is better in terms of the way the web is done

Rhino
i agree

Spiderman_RJ
i agree cos being organic the manipulation of the webing (like web dome, web impact, web nets, strong,fick) are more "realistic" since, i always questioned my self how he manage to make so many types of webbing only by "difference in nuance of his hand moviment" thats is a crap argument. just says he do and ok.
now the organic being part of him we can even say he does it mentally or whatever like it.
not to say about the bump that should be out of his sleeve
BLAH BLAHB BLAH. Be ready, get ur torch and ropes people...........i can hear the man-spider clan aproaching!

Ghetto Goblin
ya verily.

i agree, but spiders don't go swinging around by their butts, where the webs come out. i remember drawing pictures of spiderman swinging around by his @$$ when i was in kindergarten.

Mr Parker
so if sonys movie franchise rapes to death the character of spider-man and turns him into a damn man-spider monster like they did and dumbs down his character taking away his greatest scientific invention like they did,you all could care less? how truely sad.

Spiderman_RJ
no one said that!
the ugly sony movie is as much unloyal to peter parker spiderman as the 90 series get over it. they cant reproduce what have been told twice like in the 60s and 90 s right?.
the webshooter in the 90 cartoon went inside peter body and was way too advanced to what the poor parker could aford with his salary.
the only true character spiderman adaption was the 60s animation so get over it.

manchichirtchit
the second movie totally salvaged the organics. i also had a problem "adapting" to them in the first movie, because the conflict of running out of web fluid has been eliminated and that is one fun factor in the story line. the only qualms i have about it is how he doesn't make any quips while he's fighting.

stubby2903
While I agree that the running out of web fluid always made for an interesting foible in the comics, it seems to me that no kid, no matter how smart, can develop something that the U.S. military has been attempting to recreate for several years now (and by that I mean a synthetic spider silk). I know the kid is pretty bright, but a revolutionary inventor who just happens to get bitten by a radioactive spider? Come on now big grin

Organic webs make at least a little more sense than that.

Oh and by the way....the web shooters in the 90's cartoon weren't implanted into his forearms man. . . they were mechanical and removeable, like in the comics.

Red Superfly
Actually - the fact that he was bitten by the radioactive spider gave him knowledge on how to actually make the web.

Without the spider bite - Pete would have no chance.

grey fox
yup our adam west worshiping freind is correct

manchichirtchit
laughing

Robo-Chocobo
SHIZNITE!SHIZNITE!SHIZNITE!SHIZNITE!SHIZNITE!SHIZN
ITE!

I wonder how a spiderbite can tell him how to make webs?

and I think the sony movie actually is helping spiderman. in all honestly, only you "true spiderfans(aka biggest whinners in the universe) really give a rat's A$$ (or peter parkers @$$) about this watering down the character. organics dont make him any less know, or worse off, i mean what kid who never read the comics b4 after seeing the movie goes and says"without the webshooters spiderman is terrible" it doesnt matter, all they see is a cool superhero who swings on webs. if anything, the uber awsomeness of the movies will get kids interested in the comics, and they might just pick up a issue of amazing or ultimate spiderman.

Ghetto Goblin
i saw a spiderman episode today that had that, and well, that is what he said.

Mr Parker
Yeah anybody whoever watched the 90's toon knows that the webshooters in that cartoon were mechical and he had the chemical fluid from the comics that he stored in the webshooters. roll eyes (sarcastic)

and please stubby,dont bring that old lame a$$ argument for the organics into the picture that no kid no matter how smart,can develop something that the u.s. military has been attempting to create and hasnt,that argument is so laughable because you are implying that a kid creating a cheimical fluid is not believeable but a kid gaining the powers of a spider from a spiderbite is.give me a freaking break,the whole thing of spider-man is unbelievable and if anything,gaining the powers of a spider to scale walls ect from a spiderbite is more unbelievable than a kid creating a fluid that the military cant,so again,dont bring that laughable defense for the organics into this discussion again because it does not hold up under scrutiny. stick out tongue

Spiderman_RJ

Spiderman_RJ
about mj they made her mre like mj, like when he grabs a wood stick, and tryes to sneak on octopus, with this scene they showed the strong side of mj, and when in the end she joins peter.but to hell mj, she was suposed to be the sweeter gorgeous girl, i dont like dusnt, i want gwen!! and so on let spiderman cheat mj on third movie with miss brant.
WOHHIA!! did u realise she says: if u wanna socialise ask me for a date on sm 2 game?

Robo-Chocobo
I say it once, I sayit twice. "sony's spiderman is actually helping"

the more people who see the film, the more likely one of them is going to go and pick upa copy of amazing or ultimate spiderman. then they can find out about webshooters, and if they actually have a thought concerning the web shooters and organics, they can decide which 1 they like.

Spiderman_RJ
helping them to get out of the hole, not us

grey fox
ok idiot i wont go down to your level but what my chickeny freind says is right no one gives a rats @$$ wether or not about thew godamn freaking web shooters asl ogn as he can shoot ebs is all i care about but still you make a point rj and am i crazy yes dont blame me blame the sugar high mwhaahahahahahahhahahah *super rock 36 i need scissors*%





%i stole that line from mgs 2

Lenord
Just thinking out loud here... but if the web is organic does that mean that Peter has grown extra organs in order to produce the webbing? If so how is he going to explain that if he should ever end up in the hospital (like he did in Spiderman 2). Isn't a doctor going to notice the bulge in his wrist when he tries to take blood pressure/pulse or such things. How about when he has x-ray or ultrasound, would they not notice the whole extra organ.... Just wondering

I think that the organic webs cause more problems than web shooters but I don't mind that as long as they are not using the whole organic web as an easy way out and ignore all the problems it will cause Peter.

Does anyone remember if Peters shirt was rolled up when he was visiting the doctor or not...

Stealth Agent
lol

its a loop hole
even if sony thought of it i doubt they'd take the organic's out

§nakehead
well said Mr Parker

§nakehead
The spider-man movies couldnt have been more violated if they were gang raped by teletubies.

The Ones
What the f**k?

Robo-Chocobo
what are you talking about? If you hate the movies that much, then why do you care what the hell they do with them?

the more people who see the movies, the better the chance one of them will go pick up the comic book. then they discover webshooters, and its a happy ending for every one.

Spiderman_RJ
again u mean for marvel
the ones is that images from gta 4?

TheVenomSymbiot
Oh god. PLEASE tell me you weren't serious about the ultimate thing. Say it was from sleep deprivation or brain perception alteration due to influincing recreational pharmecuticals, but not that you put that in while thinking clearly.

TheVenomSymbiot
What GW actually said was, "I hear it's amazing when the purple (something, something about a tuning fork) does a (something). I need scissors! 61!"

grey fox
sorry all i could remember was the scisors part ok

BlackC@t
I LOVE the organics. I think it was a better way to show him losing his powers. With the organics, if he's swinging and no web comes out then you know something is not right, but if it was the web shooters they would have a hard time getting the message across, I mean 'Uh-oh! I can't swing around a pole properly! I'm losing my powers!' give me a brake........Also without the organics he's not a spider but more of an ant. If you hate Spider-Man because of the organics then I feel very sorry for you indeed. I hate the web-shooters, it's a cheesy BS thing which makes the whole subject cross into fantasy way too much. There is NO way he could make wrist thingys or material like that. They didn't betray anything by making Peter different, they just up-dated his character. I mean, come on people, it's 2004, the comics were back in 1960.........

ORGANICS ROCK! rock

Lenord
I don't understand how people think that a web shooter somehow takes Spiderman into more of a fantasy direction... Come on have you seen the movie at all. Did you not see the Goblin on a glider, did you not see his how his goblin bombs killed everyone by stripping them down to thier skeleton, how about Doc Ock with his six arms, or the fact that he created an artificial sun.... and after all this you are worried that a web shooter would take the movie into more of a fantasy direction? It is already way over the fantasy line and in the relm of science fiction so please think before you talk.

I am not against organic web I just hate the way they implemented it in the movie. It was more a matter of conviniece than a well thought out idea. The thing is in order to have organic webs Peter would have to grow extra organs (and in one night no less). And I would expect Peter to panick and worry about what is happening to him when he finds out abot his webs, not go onto yhe roof and try to swing. When I was Peter's age if I got his strength/agility/speed and could climb walls, I would be jumping for joy, but if I found sticky goo coming out of my wrist and relised that here was something inside of me producing this thing, I would be scared like hell, I would have nightmares, and I would run/hide even mybe go to my doctor or the hospital... His whole reaction seemed a bit unbelivable to me.

And what was that whole seen on the roof when he was tring to figure out how his webs worked. Shouldent it come naturally to him like all his other abilities like all the acrobatic stuff he does (since it is organic). And why would he need to do that whole palm thing in order to release web since it would be trigered by the moustles in wrists and not his palm (if they loose the web shooters then there is no need for him to do that anymore since the only reason he did that was to trigger his web shooter). It is this kinds of things that I did not like about in the movie when it changed to organic webs... if it had been done better then maybe I would have liked it more but the way it is now I would have prefered a web shooter (if for no other reason than it makes him more human than spider).

By the way read Ultimate Spider-Man, that is how you up-date a character not by giving him a power that he did not have to begin with. The movie Spider-Man is not an up-date but an adaptation (big difference).

The Ones
good points everyone



yes it is

Robo-Chocobo
GO WEB!!GO!!

FLY AWAY

SHAZAM!!!

UP,UP,AND AWAY WEB!!

The Ones
no expression

Spiderman_RJ
offtopic, GTA was released out there? or only previee shots?

grey fox
leonard you are slighty wrong on soem parts

1: there is an actual chemical that will do what the goblin bomb did it destorys everythign but calcum which is what the bones are made mostly off

2 : i dotn think technology is so far off that they couldn,t make a glider possibly anoth 15 years and the tentacles hell no that would take at least 50 years becuase off the side effects of connecting with the spine

Spiderman_RJ
the glider can be done by now, but remembers av-Harrier from USAAF, itcant hover for long cos the hovering needs water to cool the engine

Robo-Chocobo
I have a glider, i bought it off ebay. i throw explosives and everything. i spend my free timetrying to find Osama Bin Laden before the loan company comes searching for me.

what? you didnt think that stuff came cheap.

Spiderman_RJ
i have a doctor doom armor, i use it to fry web forums lier chickens

what? that think didnt come cheap,you know.

Robo-Chocobo
it's a comic, dont give it too much thought.

badsymbiote
Personally, I think we could all stand to think a little more.
Common sense--that's something no amount of money can buy, and one of the powerful of offensive and defensive weapons you can wield.

Mr Parker
Please,your defense for those moronic organics is as laughable as always.Leonard just shot down your weak and laughable points for me by pointing out there are severel other things in that movie that are a LOT more unbelieveable than a kid creating a fluid,so as I said on another thread,enough with these lame a$$ defenses of the organics that organics are better because its not believeable that a kid could create a fluid nonsense but that you can believe a kid could somehow get the powers of a spider from a spider bite to walk on walls nonsense that you manspider fans always come back with.you cripple your arguments everytime with that absurd nonsense. roll eyes (sarcastic) organics rule only if you are a man-spider fan and not a true loyal spidey fan.

there is no logical reason why if he had organics that he would be making the classic two finger pose he makes when he shoots webs and no logical reason why they would shoot out of his wrists and not his butt.NONE AT ALL!!!!

ORGANICS SUCK AND ALWAYS WILL.!!!! stick out tongue

Spiderman_RJ
i would rather having peter with psike webbing woudl be rather cool than organics...............................DIE true loyal spiderman fans.
true organics fans hail!!!!!!!!

Rhino
maybe people that like organics, are fans of the movie?

Red Superfly
Ya think?

fever red
Well, I don't "like" organics, but I'll accept any adjustments that are dictated by the change in medium from comic to film. I think organics were used because a little exposition is a lot in an action movie; showing Peter working on his web formula and design didn't make the final script. That's fine by me. We shouldn't feel threatened by the movie version of Spiderman; our Spidey always has a home in Marvel comics. Enjoy the movie, and "correct" it in your own mind. It's in your own mind that Spiderman has his best adventures, anyway, isn't it?

Red Superfly
Yes, my favourite one was where Spider-Man told me to jump out of the window, and he would catch me.

He didn't.

Two days later I wake up in a bath of ice, the b*stard stole my kidney.

fever red
That Spidey- he has a wicked sense of humor.

SPIDER SONIC
Maybe spidey generates webbing by eating or exercising...

Spiderman_RJ
i think he eat his own webs, just for hobby, its fast then calling for pizaa

Robo-Chocobo
I just had a novel thought. When spidermangot the black costume back in the secret wars, he lost his webs right? they were like organics. they ran out and had to regen webbing, and they copied that in the movie.

how many of you had a problem with something they did in the comics?

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