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I just looked at The Matrix Revolutions a couple of minutes ago and I noticed something I never noticed before. When Saraph walks up to the night club, one of the bodyguards calls him "Wingless'" as if it was his nick name. What does this mean?

use the search function... but lucky for you i'm bored so...

wingless was one of the nick names seraph apparently obtained... so is judas and the prodigal son. one of the theory on it was he used to work for the merovingian. possibly protecting merv from smith (if you recall the scene where seraph said "i have beaten you before..." to smith in revolutions). after some time, he consulted with the oracle and decided that he wanted to be of her service, not the merovingian's... hence the name wingless (fallen angel), judas and the prodigal child.

maybe jedi has a better explanation...

well...we are not exactly sure how Seraph came to be, or what his backstory is, however, based on his nomenclature, we can make a rough guesstimate.

He is called 'Wingless', 'the prodigal son', and 'judas', all references in some form or fashion to judeo-christianity. Judas refers to the Apostle, Judas Iscariot, who betrayed Jesus to the Romans for 30 pieces of silver. The prodigal son was a parable spoken by Jesus in Luke 15:11-32, concerning a son that had run away and squandered his half of his fathers fortune, then returns home destitute. Wingless refers to fallen angels who have lost their wings when they lost grace, or can refer to angels in human form. Taking these together, Seraph would be a turncoat, a deserter, that left the Mervs company, and has now returned, even if not to join up with the Merv again. Even though Seraph and Smith have fought before, i do not think Seraph protected the Merv. We are told that Seraph was saved, more or less, by the Oracle, which is why he is her "Guardian angel" now. This may also be the reason that the Merovingian wishes to harm the Oracle; she took away from him his best bodyguard, one that never loses.

anyway, thats my 2 pence.

I hope that the brothers make a comic or anime about him...

me too...i hope they make an Animatrix 2, which is basically the backstory of the non-main characters...that would be great. Or a book.

Saraph could be the key to ultimate knowledge of the matrix....

hes an angel without wings, apparently, whatever jedi said, i dont feel like typing....lol

well, seraphim are the highest order of the angels...so to call him wingless and judas would imply that he was very high on a power level and made a betrayal evil enough to have his status taken away from him...and as jedi speaks of the prodical son...the son returns to his master (merovingian) but not in the same context as in the bible...

I wanted to know the same reason for why he said "wingless".

mc pee pants could be right because if you recall the scene where the merovingian says "Are you here for the bounty Seraph?" so maybe he did work for him.

If he did then a nickname would make sense

We have already discussed this topic!!

one of the Devs. for the same group that made Enter the Matrix hinted at the possiblity of having a game just about Seraph's previous story, which I think would be cool.

hell yeah! with real movie cut scenes like ETM where smith and seraph duke it out

Ditto!
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where is Raz with his book of shadows

Book of shadows?
Hmm....

_Matrix_Neo_1_ killed him! We must stand against him!

and you know it...

if raz were dead, i would die...

me too cry

Why did you think I killed him?