Save My Computer Please
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dave123
OK, here's the deal: I have a WinXp PC (home) and everything was peachy
i did a recent virus check, AdAware check and it was all good
but then, this morning, a friend tries to use Championship Manager as i watch Family Guy. Everything started screwing up, so i tried to fix it, but all I could do was restart. CTRL ALT DEL didn't work, so i manually restarted.
now when i turn it on, 90% of the time I get a blue screen with the egg timer - note: keyboard and mouse work fine.
the other 10%, i get a list of my usernames, the Windows logo and the "turn off" command.... except i can't click any of them
i don't really wanna wipe my computer, i don't have a reboot disk, and i'm using my Win ME PC with 56k at the moment.... what do i do cry
anyone that can help - even you, yers, much appreciated
silver_tears
That's beyond screwed
And that was me being a help
dave123
Irene, that's probably more useful than the crap i'm gonna get from the technical staff
"did you try running it in safe mode?"
"of course i ****ing did, do i sound disabled to you?"
Clovie
do you have system restore thing working?
i have no other idea i'm very sorry for you cry
dave123
well, on the plus side I have broadband on my old PC now
and i have no restore disk.... my friend has a WinXp disk i can borrow.... and there is no way to access system restore TMK
Clovie
yes. one good point.
but really you let someone to use it and it is totally broken
dave123
he was only using Champ.... it must have been a coincidence
Clovie
maybe he did it on purpose
btw have you asked him what were he doing exacly?
dave123
he's not smart enough to do this, so i realy doubt it
and i saw what he was doing, just putting Champ into different disk drives getting it to work
note: it did work, but he closed it when he lost.
silver_tears
I say you shoot your friend
dave123
thanks for the advice sweetie, the PC works great now but I have a dead body to deal with..... now I've just made another problem
btw, i'm kidding, i still need PC help
yerssot
excuse me? I just wanna help people out y'know
dave123
i know
you and raz are the most useful people here (besides me)
any ideas?
yerssot
well, ... yes. but I don't like your tone mister!
seriously, which version of Championship are you playing? cause there were some people who had problems with playing/installing it up to the point it went spaz
and which team did he pick?
Clovie
HA
i told you it is your friend's fault.
dave123
bastard friend
it's the latest one.... i THINK he selected chelsea and my other friend i'm SURE was newcastle
yerssot
1.5? was it the early one where you don't need the CD to play it for? cause that pushes things to hell
hmmm, why pick one from Premier? take one from Third and get them to the top
dave123
well it does require the CD, yeah
and Scunthorpe were never intended to get that far up the table
yerssot
how about you place the HD in another PC (your old one?) set it as slave and start the PC up, delete CM from it, place it back in your new one and see if that solves the problem
isn't cambridge in that one? in the last edition I have, they were decent with that dutch goalie, Young, etc.
dave123
god knows, i haven't even checked it out myself
and no can do Mr Yers
this old PC ain't gonna let it happen
firstly, it physically can't
secondly, i'm not sure if different OS's can let you do that
thirdly, i can't modify my new computer else i lose the guarantee
yerssot
then you can play it easy... since it's under guarantee, give it to the guys from the shop...easy, free and it's their fault
dave123
thats what i'm gonna do, but i'd rather see if it can be fixed tonight
and hopefully without wiping all my precious data.... i just got AVP
yerssot
and CM! though you could have just waited for FM2005 y'know
but my guess would be that the installation or something screwed up some windows files for logging in... since it's no virus or something like that
dave123
well CM was fine last night.... why would it only screw up this morning?
yerssot
misunderstood, thought it was you installed it
still... to me it sounds like a windows error... have you changed anything in your BIOS lately?
dave123
i removed some programs, thats all.... i don't touch the BIOS, ever.
and since the PC last turned on, all i did was run Champ
yerssot
it doesn't necessarily have to be CM of course, could be something in the background getting stuck
better get this one in I believe
dave123
well another source tells me that it can take 8hours for some crap to happen/remove itself..... so it might work in the morning. that true?
yerssot
selfhealing yes... but I'm not sure it will work now
dave123
*crosses fingers* i guess we'll find out....
lil bitchiness
Ok, the first problem occured here:
Feel the pain Dave cry its unbarable!
Reborn Again
That's Ad aware for ya. It gets rid of pop-ups and behind the scenes programs that site's install, but it also screws up your computer royally! That's why I had to get rid of it and do a restore to a time when Ad aware was not installed. Now everything works fine. Free programs you dl are nothin' but trouble.
dave123
Ooooook, here's an update:
this morning I turn it on and....
it works fine
so I use my keyboard to turn the computer off PROPERLY
I get my mouse & modem wires from my old PC and put them into the new one, turn on the new PC and it's stopped working
so i think to myself "maybe it's the mouse/modem causing the problems"
i unplug them, turn it on again and still nothing
so basically: the PC still works, SOME times.... but very rarely
yerssot
there ya go... it worked fine and you still tried to fix something
when you unplugged the old ones, did you place the new ones in it again?
dave123
the new PC is currently working fine with everything, if that's what you want to know
yerssot
then what isn't working now?
furryman
I always knew CM was bad
yerssot
no, the other footballmanager games are... but the new game should be Football Manager 2005 since the guys have cancelled their contract with Eidos and needed a new publisher
dave123
well it WAS working fine, but when i turned it on for a second time i still have the same problem
yerssot
but you said
so, ... the OLD one is not working now?
sorry, but I'm tired
dave123
OLD one is fine
NEW one WAS fine but is now SCREWED AGAIN
Clovie
FORMAT C
Raz
Could you summarise the problem?
Generic answer: Get a XP CD and overwrite your current installation.
dave123
OK, I am currently sitting on my chair infront of a working PC.... now what do I do to stop it happening again?
yerssot
ask it politely?
first off... if you think it was CM, delete it completely
or to be on the safe side, do a system restore to a point where there were no problems with the pc?
dave123
ok, i removed Champ.... and now i'm back to my old one
yerssot
your new one is still running I hope? in case you know what the problem is
dave123
.........new one is dead again
yerssot
why did you switch it off
dave123
well i went to the microsoft update website...
and it sorta stopped working
yerssot
the word "DUH" comes to mind... it works and you go to microsoft
what about giving it a rest for auto-healing again and then go to your system restore?
dave123
i THINK in the morning it will load up fine..... so in the morning i should restore it?
yerssot
good thinking dave, exactly my thought
and who doesn't clovie
Clovie
bill gates
it gives him money
yerssot
did it load up well?
yerssot
tried giving it to the repairshop?
dave123
it's a weekend.... i'm gonna phone the technician's on monday
Raz
Have you tried doing an overwrite install? You won't lose your settings, but you will have to install all your patches again.
dave123
raz, you're talking dutch
Raz
Get a Windows XP CD and boot off it. When asked where you want to install Windows, select the current Windows XP directory.
You should be asked whether you want to overwrite this installation, or something along those lines. Select YES.
dave123
well the first thing i would have done is tried to reinstall my OS.... except I don't have the disk to do that
yerssot
I thought I should do that?
dave123
well chaps, Champ WAS the problem, and I was the solution
thanks for all your help, much appreciated
yerssot
but how did the season go now
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