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Okay moving away from some of the junk posted by two people. Why dont some of you post some lovely art here? We want art that really inspires people NOT silly naked women some children get a kick out!

So go ahead post some good art in this thread.

I like the way this thread is going.

Many of the oldest civilizations considered the nude body to be the greatest form of art.

Im glad burlyman. Go ahead post some good art. This is an art forum

well if it's hand drawn try the exibition thread, the best art drawn by fellow kmc'ers is rated there and then if it's good it's put in the kmc gallery

Dont ruin my thread! Just post art that is beautiful!

http://www.csupomona.edu/~plin/ls201/images/michaelangelo_big.jpg

http://www.prometheus-imports.com/david-by-michelangelo-1-mb-l.jpg

http://www.apocalyptic-theories.com/gallery/lastjudge/michelangelo.jpg

http://www.unicttaskforce.org/news/michelangelo.jpg

So, are these considered art?

Well they're not surrealist, so by her standards they're halfway there

I'd say so

You found the super cool picture of Michelangelo's David!!

Nice work Darth Revan

The artists may have been great! But their paintings certainly werent. Dont try that open minded stuff. Can you post some art that doesnt involve nudity? I really dont want to report you.

how can you call an artist great if you hate they're paintings

you contradict yourself

Xena fan, clearly, you know nothing about "real" art. All of those were made by one of the greatest artists who ever lived, a guy named "Michelangelo". Ever heard of him?

Those great artists painted other things besides nudity. Those naked ones are their most famous.

Yes I heard of him but he also painted other stuff than nudity!

Art is what you make it, I find nothing wrong with nudity, in fact the human body is the greatest form of art int his world.

There are things like landscapes and fruits and animals. It doesnt have to be about ALL NUDITY.

Hear hear. At least we have a few people that are mature enough to discuss "real" art

how precisely is a fruit art
I'm sorry but you are 26 yet you are shy about the body

No one is forcing you to look at or do anything with it, you don't like it feel free to stay away from the threads which you may consider to have such content!

Interesting.

if you dont want nudity specify, you cant expect "REAL ART" to be nonsense were every thing is puppie's and flower's and such.
yes you have the right to like whatever you want, but so do other's art is what you see fit.

if you want to have a thread clear of nudity then specify. like LANDCAPE's and still art or somthing.

here ill start you of with a pic

You know, if you don't like it, no one's making you look at it...

And the human body is one of the hardest things to draw, that's why art of people is usually so much more famous than still lifes and landscapes.

Yes Im 26 and Im not shy about my body. As a matter a fact I'm a very healthy woman who is in perfect physical shape. For me artist that paint naked woman are just inmature males with fast hormones. I mean come on! Males love to enjoy watching naked women all the time.

and therefore males who paint males are what

If that's your take on every male in society then you're greatly mistaken.


Another good point, Sil!

If you're religious... didn't God create man and woman in his image - naked, how they should be

Honey, certain males need to be censor in art. To them is all a big thrill to watch a naked woman. Women need to realise that in the past males only kept in mind two things 1. conquering 2. making women house slaves.

You can quite see it today. Art is another way for male artist to get away with their silly little thrills.

See, you think we act like little children because we post great works of art that happen to be of naked people. We realize that the nudity isn't there for the sake of nudity. We are mature enough to be able to discuss art like this without just staring at the more, erm... private.. parts of the body. If you honestly can't look at "David" without thinking that it's porn, you are missing out on something. You're not supposed to look at his genitals, you're supposed to look at his facial expression, his posture, and his musculature. I was probably 5 or 6 when I first saw this stuff. Where, you ask? In my grade school art class.

This thread is about real ART not Philophy!

You're right! And this is real art! Wow!

Philosophy is a type of art

i will repeat myself, beauty is in the eye's of the beholder. i have yet to see "PORN" displayed in this forum, you may need to start living out side of the box, all of this work has had obvious dedication and skill
they wanted to communicate a messeage, Michelangelo did, HG Giger did
just becuase you dont like it is no reason to dilusionilize what your looking at

Thank you for clearing that up

Once again you personal Vendetta has started! All I ask for people to start posting beautiful art! YOU GUYS ARE GETTIN OFF TOPIC! Keep it up and I WILL REPORT YOU ALL FOR NOT STAYING ON TOPIC!

Back topic please.

but we are on topic, he posted "real art" it isn't imaginary so therefore it is "real"

Uh.... I see absolutely no point where this thread had become off-topic. At all.

http://www.asl.milano.it/sos/imgsoccorso/michelangelo.jpg

Did this pass as real art?

What about male artists who paint males? And female artists? What does that, in your opinion, mean? It's not about the nudity. Nudity in artwork is NOT considered pornographic if it is does in good taste, as it has been in the examples posted.

I've been in art classes all my life, and will major in art at the university, so I don't see the problem in it. "Real" art encompasses many, many things, from the examples posted here, to sculptures, to animation and comics, to graphic design, to silly little sketches that I like to do.

And honestly, when I was in middle school and took an art class, we looked at paintings like the ones posted here and my class, which was primarily 11 and 12 year olds, had a more mature reaction than yours about them.

Better?

Good points

In one word? No.

Exactly

Censorship is one of the worst things you can do.

And thank you, Burly.

By the way sweetheart if it's so offensive maybe you should lobby to have reproduction removed from our science textbooks too
That's exploitation at it's highest

We're not in the middle ages. You're steorotype is quite pathetic.
Have you ever been a male artist who has painted a nude female?

oh and you may wanna stay away from Europe where nude beaches are popular

and here is something I consider art http://www.asl.milano.it/sos/imgsoccorso/michelangelo.jpg





and then there's the other half of it

Sweetheart you are only getting "ideas" of the male mentality in you. Males have "imposed" their idea of ART in all of us! I bet you that any of your teachers told you that painting naked women is okay as long as it is consider art. What you dont see is that women CAN be exploited because of their bodies.

Can you name a female artist that paints naked men? Of course NOT! Males are notorious for using art as a tool for NUDITY!

For centuries males have govern what a women should do or behave. That was until this century! Women are joinin to put a STOP to male perverted paintings. Why dont you visit the NOW org and you will see.

last time I checked he was male
then again I'm sure that idea was imposed on me

So lemme ask you... What about male artists who paint naked men? Are they gay?

I resent that comment... did I, JKozzy, try and rule over you centuries ago? I think not. You're just looking for a scapegoat for your insecurities in the very historical artistic grounds. If I go to school and ask my art teachers if nudity in art is perverted, or if it's acceptable, I'm pretty darn sure they'll go for the latter.

by the way which school of art do you go to xena?

I really dont care about males paintin men! What I care is how males paint naked woman and profit from that! Is a business similar to prostitution which is something that has to STOP!

*under breath* damn she's onto me!

Come on boys we better leave before all the ladies figure out our evil plan! *runs and hides*

*wonders how reproduction occurs now*

Males always try to dominate females. Is call Machismo young man. From the work place to education. Males always try to be high and mighty than women. We are all equal!

Well you know what? I really don't care about women painting naked women, either! What has to stop is women painting naked men! They are exploiting the male body for their own personal profits and it has to stop!




That came across as sexist, didn't it? It was. But you'll notice that it was almost identical to your comment, only with the sexes mixed up a bit. Men and women are all the same, except for their reproductive function. Therefore you are being just a tiny bit hypocritical.

Read it again!

First they banned sex ed, now they won't even tell me how a single celled organism reproduces!

Really? Now you talk about equality? Whatever happened to your theory of women being better than men because "Males are notorious for using art as a tool for NUDITY"? It sure seems you're quick to forget. I'm sure plenty of women do the same, albeit you don't, I know personally even a few that do. You fail to mention that women are equally susceptible to this.

You know there is such a thing as MALE PORN too!

If we are all equal, then why are you claiming that men always try to exploit women? I haven't exploited a single female in my entire life. Neither have any of my friends, my cousins, my father, his friends, my uncles...

This has been done to death, and as I see in other threads is beginning to turn flaming.

So, regardless of people's personal views, I think the best course of action is to let this thread stand or die on the topic that it was founded- discussion and links of non-nude art.

As the thread opener's definition of such art is not shared by others I will change the title to avoid confusion.

Now we can keep things on topic.

This is just a comment:
Shouldnt the moderator of this forum edit those pics? I mean she has being editing many threads in this forum maybe those pictures posted by Darth Revan should be removed. This is a thread for people who does not like nudity in art. ( no flamming only a comment )

yes Ush I will continue to be on topic. But not many people have agreed with my views. i hope someone could visit here that shares my views.

There isnt anything wrong with those pictures. They are genuine works of Michelangelo, so i dont see the need to edit.

wow she's even gunning on Rennaisance art? damn.. thats mean

Dora the moderator does NOT have to edit those pics just because YOU think is immoral or something! You also have the choice of NOT looking at them! This thread is in the Art forum, and is logical that art involving nudity might be posted. If you don't like it just don't look at it SIMPLE!

btw-this is also NOT flaming it is only a comment.

Just in addition to what WindDancer said, this was originally called "Real Art" not "Non-Nude Art."

Also, I think you'll be surprised to see who the moderator is...

As i said before Im not here to flame anyone. Both Darth Revan and Windancer can agree with each other as much as they want. the thread is for those that dont want nudity in art! which is what this thread is about.
if you people are going to be ART CRITICS then i should go to that indian art thread and post my opinions! After all Im entitled to make my criticism of art! Isnt that right accoding to the forum rules?
As BackFire said ( a much more better moderator ) in the giger thread! NO nudity involving sexual acts! Do i have to summon him to make things clear? seriously Im posting my OPINION and you two should also RESPECT MY OPINON! i respect yours so far can you do the same?

Ok, let me make something clear right now. I dont want to see any flaming or name calling whatsoever, because I will be issuing a warning if this happens.

And Xena fan, I really dont care who you think is a better moderator or isnt, I moderate this forum, like it or not. If you have any problems about the way I moderate or question my decision in any way i suggest you PM me or Raz!

Yes, you are entiteled to your openion as so is everybody else. Respecting opinions goes both ways.

Im keeping this thread open for now. Keep it civil or I will close it.

Thank you! Thats all i wanted to know and make it clear! I dont have to pm you or Raz. Im just glad that was clear by you.



BackFire made it quite clear on that giger thread. And he is global moderator. i will respect the rules as stated in the forum rule book.

He is a global moderator, but like him we all have different opinions.
And my opinion is that Milla is do a fab-u-lous job
Keep up the good work sista!!

Ok Xena fan, let me clear something for you. BackFire might be the global moderator, but Raz is the administrator, and he chose me to moderate this forum because he agreed with me and my take on art, and what i believe is acceptable and what isnt and trusts my decision is valid enough, alright.

Now, either get back on topic, or I will close this thread.

nude art can be qwite butiful its just the sleasey pictures that are a discrace

Isn't the point of this thread to post artwork that isn't nudes, not for arguing about nudity as an art form or male gender issues rar

no.. the point of the thread was for xena to find people who are fans of "Non-nude art".. which means against any and all nudity. However I think anyones free to come and "discuss" views on whether or not they feel that she may be discriminating against said 'nude art'. lil has a great view/opinion on whats trash and whats acceptable IMO.. and she has deleted or removed any questionable content she's come across.