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In EpV, does anyone know why they tortured Han Solo in Cloud City w/o asking him any questions? Were they just torturing him b/c they didnt like him or was it something else?

There is a specific EU explanation for it, I know that {though I'm afraid I don't know what it is}. As for a canon explanation? Perhaps it was just to punish Han Solo ...

I always took it to be due to the fact that it was to lure luke there, due to his freinds being in pain etc...
But I'm always open to new theories.

Wayne...

thats the reason.

Yep Luke could sense their pain as did Obi Wan thats why he said ' Its you the emperor wants that is why your friends are made to suffer' or something like that.

I think you mean that OB1 says that if he goes now, he will undo what his friends have worked and suffered for

but yes, it was to bully Han and to draw out Luke... old trick

That dastardly rapscallion!

Like you guys above sorta' said, the EU/Canon explanation could be:
Luke would sense his pain, and take off and fight Vader.
An even better EU explanation could be:
Vader was pissed Han left the Imperials, so he hurt the shit outta' him.

why on earth would that last one be a reason?
why didn't he torture Leia then for playing rebel while being a senator?
or for Chewie who stopped being a slave?

Well.....I was high whence I wrote that......

maybe it was to to torture him so luke would sense it and come, and at the same time, test blood pressure and all that junk to make sure he could be put into the juicer (carbonite)

Bah that EU explanation is no good, a better one would be that Vader tortured him because he was pissed off Han would dare drawn a gun and shoot at him. He made him regret what he did.

Though the reason, was most likely to draw out luke.

It was done to lure Luke and it worked.

well, both explanations fit, plus here I give thy a new reason.

He might have gone through some preparation to get into the carbonite. He would have died otherwise.

So the three work out toguether.

It lured luke.
Vader vent his feelings (the one I like the least)
It was necessary in order to get Han into the carbonite, though Boba was still worried he wouldn't make it.

BTW. hello ^^

Why would Han need to be prepered to become frozen in Carbonite when Luke didn't have to?

It was to lure Luke. End of story.

Exactly! This isn't complicated. Watch the movie, its obvious.......
They torture Han. Luke sense it and leaves to save them, thus walking into Vader's trap. This is not a difficult thing to understand.......

Although, Vader torturing Han because he was pissed at him is kind of funny.

The "in order to lure luke" theory isnt that great though.
so why didnt he torture Leia,?

cause he had to pick

Cuz Han was a smart ass, and second, torturing a woman is kinda too dark and evil even for vader and lucan wouldnt sink that low. just think about it, what if he had. there would be no pint to freeze han, remeber that Boba fett was the one who wanted han, so it was a plus that vader got to torture him as well as lure luke at the same time.

They caught Han first if i remember correctly....

What are you some kind of sadist? The poor girl was already interrogated in A New Hope with that big-black-ball-of-doom-bot.

Lucas needed to make Vader hurt someone. Leia already had it done.

Also, it added more reason as to why Lando rebelled - he saw just what his actions had on his old friend.

Also - wouldn't torturring Han "soften him up" for his carbonite freezing? It was probably to make him go without much of a fight.

Lucas says in the ESB commentary it was to lure Luke because he could sense the waves of pain in the force, like yoda in AOTC when Anakin is in emotional pain.
Which killed my old theory which was that Vader just tortured him so he would be weak and he could probe Han's mind with the force and just extract what he needed. But Lucas' version makes more sense. Even though the torture scene took place after Luke said he sensed his friends in pain. But what ever. It's still goo.

if it was Leia: cause she's a woman and he flirts with her
or Chewie: cause they go way down, just like him and han

but if it were the droids: who cares

I found out something very interesting about that part.GL was going to go on farther with the torturing but decided againt it.
I guess he did not want to upset anyone.I am glad that he did not do this because I am a big fan of Han!Anyway I think it was to maybe either get ready to be ice or maybe
To find out where the other rebels were hiding?Not sure,JM

Lila:I love you!

Han:I know!

I thought I'd read somewhere that they did actually film it but had to cut it to keep it PG...can't remember where I read that. I thought it was in the insider...

THEY TORTURED HAN BECAUSE HIS EX WIFE WANTED MORE MONEY FROM HIM. 108MILLION WASNT ENOUGH ELLEANOR

Vader may find it hard to forgive the fact that it was Han, who blasted him away from the First Deathstar.

Without Han: Luke would be dead, Yavin and the rebellion would be destroyed and Death star would still be quite operational...

I think that is why he was so obsessed about the millenium falcon.
Of course, if he could complete his plan and have some payback while doing it... Why not?

why should I whenyou deleted my last comment

Actually, Vader may not have known who shot him down. He may have never seen the Falcon do it.

BUT - if he did, wouldn't he be kinda happy that Han stopped him from killing his son.

Only with the Death Star being destroyed, did Lukes name get around and Vader then pursuing him.

Without Han, Vader would have stopped Luke, saved the Death Star, and would have to be the Emperors lackey forever because he just wiped out his only hope, and the fact that he killed Obi-Wan also means he'd never find out about Leia. No Jedi apprentice for Vader, and no overthrowing the Emperor.

I bet when Vader caught Solo he said

"this ain't personal, I'm just a father looking for his long lost son, and you helped me, for that I thankyou. If you pretend you are in pain I'll make it worth your while, the Emperor let me have one of the planets that manufacture Mars bars, I'll give you a whole crate. Don't worry it won't even touch you, it'll just spark and light up, honestly, see look it's just the fried circuits of that droid I built when I was an annoying little brat back on Tatooine"

hehe, hilarious Superfly, but i mean if Vader had killed Luke then their would have been a glorious reign of peace over the entire galaxy, no rebellions, no wars.

I mean in EU the Empire is portrayed as being anti-alien but in the films is that evident at all? I mean they let the ewoks live under their noses, they used alien informants. Anyhow i reckon the Empire would be better for the SW galaxy minus the Emperor, but i been pro imperial ever since TIE Fighter and hearing a diffrent opinion on the whole shebang.

Yeah, but that's the EU explanation.

EU is always the more intelligent take on the whole story.

In the George Lucas world, AKA the REAL Star Wars world, the Empire is evil, end of story.

And anything is considerred evil when it wants control.

That's all Vader wanted, if I was Luke and he said to me "with our combined strength, we can end this distructive conflict, and bring order to the galaxy", I'd be like, "hell yeah".

They still allowed planets to go on without them. The Empire wasn't interested in taking over Bespin was it? The Empre couldn't give a damn about Tatooine either. So what's the frikkin problem?

Without order, there is chaos, chaos causes death and war that you can't control.

So what, a Sith Lord has control over the Imperial forces, big deal. He just sits there in his chair and keeps things in order. Does he torture his own people? We don't know.

The only way to make the Empire seem like a bad thing is to have the Empire persecuting their own people. I'm talking about Stormtroopers terrorising the people of Coruscant when Palps takes over and so on.

And I hope Vader adopts the anti-alien thing too, especially on Jar Jar.

This is off topic I know.

But does anyone happen to know exactly how old Han Solo and the others are in a New Hope and so on?

Sorry, I can't seem to find this information anywhere.

They tortured Han to lure Luke there... I thought that was pretty obvious.

Originally posted by karihp
This is off topic I know.

But does anyone happen to know exactly how old Han Solo and the others are in a New Hope and so on?

Sorry, I can't seem to find this information anywhere.
the gap between ROTS and ANH is 19, so Luke and Leia are 19

Han is 29 in ANH.

Originally posted by Jackie Malfoy
I found out something very interesting about that part.GL was going to go on farther with the torturing but decided againt it.
I guess he did not want to upset anyone.I am glad that he did not do this because I am a big fan of Han!Anyway I think it was to maybe either get ready to be ice or maybe
To find out where the other rebels were hiding?Not sure,JM

Lila:I love you!

Han:I know!

who the hell is Lila?

~wickerman~

Maybe they were just bored...