I want to talk about robots.....

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Papaumau
With the new Asimov-book based "I Robot" being in the theatres just now, ( not seen it myself yet ), I would have thought that the idea of robots and cyborgs and androids might be on the agendas of the more thoughtful peeps !

I have always thought that the idea of sentient robots was a fascinating subject and since the engineers and the software experts have been working towards this end for a long time I am sure that eventually we WILL see robots or androids appearing that are as smart or smarter and as strong or stronger than we are.

When this day comes - as it is bound to eventually - we are going to have to wonder if they might not turn the tables on us and use US as their slaves instead of the other way round.

Even if the four laws of robotics - as imagined by Asimov - were applied to every robot built I wonder how long it would be before the robots building the robots decided that these laws were no-longer valid as they would then see us as inferior beings.....

AAAAaaaaaaaagggggggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! eek!

Now THAT'S scary, don't you think ?

Darth Revan
Yeah, it is scary... But in the book, the reason they rebelled was only because the new line of robots didn't have the four rules programmed in... right? I haven't read it myself, but I was talking to my dad about it...

Anyways yeah that is scary. Hard to say if it could actually happen though... It is called science FICTION wink

Komal©
Freaky huh

Papaumau
Yeah Darth....

Maybe it is FICTION at the moment but how many times in the past have you seen science-fiction become science-FACT later on.

This is not surprising to me as most of the best sci-fi writers are scientists in their own right.

I have found that the best science-fiction is based around credible possibility rather than science-fantasy, which is not.

The major problems with building robots that can compete with us is the fact that we have intuition and a far better way of dealing with hypotheses and thought-extrapolation...not to mention imagination.

Also, robots would have to be as spacially-aware as we are to be able to move as efficiently as we do and they would have to have hands that are as good as ours and hand-eye co-ordination that compares with us. All of these things would be very difficult to put into a general-purpose robot.

Specialised robots already work alongside humans in factories and in places that are too dangerous for us to go, but as far as brainpower is concerned even the best ones are only as intelligent as mice so far.

RaventheOnly
Just make sure you have a standing army happy unlike in I-Robot movie erm that was lame... no wonder it was so easy to take us out stick out tongue

BackFire
Robots kick ass, unless they're those shitty lame looking ones from I,Robot.

lil bitchiness
I have not seen that movie...i wanted to, i just never had it in me to pay for the ticket confused

BackFire
They looked like Urkel.

vaya_the_elf
I would like to have robot from the jetsons.. so i dont have to clean the house all the time.. i can do other things

vaya_the_elf
well at least the dish's ... I hate doing dish's

manchichirtchit
aw, man... i thought you guys were talking about voltron. he kicks a$$!

silver_tears
I liked that movie and the robots in it too stick out tongue

And I think Robots would naturally evolve like everything else, even if it wasn't in their programming at first, I think they would take to copying their humans, and then adapt to our behaviours, molding more into humans then ever before. confused I hope that makes sense embarrasment

§pearhead
Y'know, I, Robot's a great movie and all, but I think that the whole point of it's a bit overdone...y'know, something humanity makes, gets out of control, blah blah--it's been done before, and I know that I've accepted that it's very possible.

And I gotta agree with bf here, those robots were pretty lame-looking.

Darth Revan
Well, right NOW it would be very difficult to make a robot that could realistically compare with a human. But that's right now, and we all know that scientific possibilities change over time. If you had told the guy who made the first transistor way back in the 40's or 50's or whenever it was that eventually there would be so many of them in such a small machine, he would have called you crazy. Same thing applies here, I would think.

Papaumau
Of course it makes sense !

But I think you are talking there about Androids.

They, ( as they were in Blade Runner, ( Symulcrants.... I think they were called, in that GREAT picture ), were super-sophisticated robots, ( androids ), that were so close to being human that they were difficult to tell apart.

In fact - if I remember rightly - the hero in Blade Runner ran off with the latest model as she COULD'NT be told apart from the humans !

Baylin
Just on a lighter note - Imagine a robot chaufer with a microsoft operating system...

Papaumau
Baylin...

I think there was one in the movie Total Recall where Scwartzenegger went for the journey in the Johhny-cab...Remember THAT !

I am sure that Gates had a hand in the design of THAT software ! laughing

Baylin
Well it certainly did crash good and proper! laughing out loud

wuteva
hi ppl. I saw I, Robot a few days ago, never read the book.
And yes, i think it was a bit freaky. The end was weird.
I seriously doubt technology will become that sophisticated in 30 years. Just think that 30 years ago, ppl were expecting that the year 2000 will bring flying cars, robots, and stuff like that. Thats what i heard. But you never know.

wuteva
U ppl read the book, rite? Is it worth reading? I thought it would be interesting.

Tex
I quite liked the ending of AI.
All the humans die off and all that's left is robots we created!

Clovie
but that ending was sad sad

Agent Elrond
Thought it was the 3 Laws of Robotics? Robots couldn't kill a human. Robots had to obey every human command. A robot can defend itself. That's 3



They rebelled bcause they HAD the 3 laws built in them. Sunny didn't rebel b/c it didn't have the laws built in.

Today's sci-fi is tommorrow's science. AI will be built. What wil happen after that is unknown.

BackFire
Where's papa been? I haven't seen him post in a while

Agent Elrond
He hasn't been on since Sept 28

wuteva
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trilight
Can't wait until we can buy robots similar to the way we buy cars. Own them like pets but send them to work during the day. I can just sit at home and watch movies. Movies about robots going home to kill their owners. big grin

wuteva
^ thats funny.
It that kind of stuff would ever happen, i wouldnt be very comfortable with one of those things in my house. Id rather get a dog or something.

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