World War 2

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Mr.Snuggles
know much about it? any inteseting facts? post em here.

Mr.Snuggles
Did you know both Hitler and Hussien both...

1. Got in jail for murder,
2. Wrote a book in jail about what life should be like
3. Became Leader in their countrys through votes.
4. killed thier own people because of race, opinion etc.(not just jews)
5. were kill or capured by an allied force to US.
6. Both never knew thier fathers.
7. attempded (failed OR succeeded) to kill themselves
8. hated christianity
9 were obsessed with pornography
10. were possesed by demons( in my opinion).

Clovie
the WW2 was evil cry

Mr.Snuggles
fact: 19 million people died in WW2, 11 million civilians, 8 million soldiers.

Mr.Snuggles
The two atomics bombs killed 800,000 people alone.

Mr.Snuggles
10,000 people died on the coast of Normandy, France on June 6, 1944.

Clovie
there is concetration camp museum in my city cry

Mr.Snuggles
what city is that?... Washington D.C.?

finti
ehh Hitler commited suicide or was killed by one of his own so he was neither captured nor killed by an allie to the US

Mr.Snuggles
u know what i mean.... he died in combat as records say... but most people (me) think he killed himself.

finti
he killed himself or was killed by one of his staff

WindDancer
laughing

8. 9. 10. are hilarious! Christian haters, Porn fans, and demon worshippers watch out! you could be the next Hussein or Hitler. stick out tongue

Mr.Snuggles
... iam a christian... that kill you 8 & 9 opinion, and the 10.

Mr.Snuggles
and besides... those last 3 are opinions, don't laught at me.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Clovie
blink excuse me.....
do i sound like american?


war took place here. and the camp was real, and after the war got changed into museum. (to give respect to those to died there)

WindDancer
Nah! I'll just keep laughing. laughing

finti
how can you keep from laughing

Papaumau
More info' !

There are more people who die from starvation and disease on earth....

EVERY YEAR
......than were killed in the whole of WW2 !

RaventheOnly
there were more killed in the Chinese and Russian revival an modernization projects then have died in all of the 20th centuries wars combined happy

Papaumau
Sheesh....

And even after that there are still more than 1.3 Billion chinese people.

finti
rise must be so much superior to viagra

dean7879
britain france russia and usa fought bravely for our freedom..
as british people always sing to germans...one world cup and two world wars doodah doodah big grin

Darth Sauron
DOO DAH

One world cup and two world wars oh-da-doo-dah-day happy

finti
and the others didnt?

yerssot
considering the age of the one who posted it, I would call it more ignorance on the subject

Clovie
no comment mad

RaventheOnly
Everyone fought bravely... smile ... some just not very well whistle stick out tongue

Clovie
the ****ing war took place here.
and when it finished the great americans and english ppl have sold us to stalin,
thank you all very much.

dean7879
errr i know what im talkin about........i coudnt be bothered to write all countrys down that fought....i do a level history thanx very much

RaventheOnly
sad very true sad we trusted a mad man and we were to werry and public opinionated to continue sad the world would be very different if we fought them then and our atomics would have surely been used a lot sad

Clovie
so you've mentioned only those who got the benefits from war?

*siigh* thanks for understanding

RaventheOnly
sad the death toll would have been staggering cry if we fought him sad Japan would have not surrendered because after that kind of war no one would be able to invade Japan.

Clovie
confused i wouldn't agree.
but i have nothing to explain my point.

yerssot
good for you, then show you know something about it
you just mentioned the countries you couldn't miss and if you wanted the OBVIOUS countries, have the intelligence to mention Canada, cause if I remember correctly, they had Juno Beach roll eyes (sarcastic)

Darth Sauron
You all need to calm down.
or World War Three will break out

RaventheOnly
Juno Sword Gold Omaha Utah smart

yerssot
I'm being patriotic canadian wink

Clovie
close this thread plz...

dean7879
what benefits did britain get from the war???
our country was ruined after the war

Clovie
hmm.. participation in beaten germany?
do i need to list more?

Darth Sauron
Actually britain got alot of benefits from the war.

And if any country is going to talk about being ruined, its Germany after ww1, and france after both.

Mr.Snuggles
im back.

yerssot
dean, you obviously have NO idea what being ruined is!

Eastern europe was HUGE mess, western europe got off well... though countries like Belgium had it very hard till end of the 50s

Clovie
till 1989.

RaventheOnly
don't forget Russia and all of eastern europe smile

Mr.Snuggles
and japan.... PEARL HARBOR... china, especially Berlin.

dean7879
i dont need to show i know something about it...britain suffered in the war more than canada..it was our country they tryed to bomb and invade,not yours
every country that fought against evil hitler done the world proud
happy now??
and have the intelligence to stop undermining my intelligence

yerssot
I take your word for it, but some people overhere claim it's still a mess messed

Clovie
i've been in berlin recently, looks very good.

Mr.Snuggles
"being ruined, its Germany after ww1, and france after both"

...no france surrendered after 2 weeks of combat... so their city WOULDN'T be destroyed... I started the thread raver

Clovie
but now it is our fault. cry

Mr.Snuggles
yeah... and the US lost over 5,000 men on Dday compared to the british: 1500.

But Canada, believe it or not, lost the most airmen in the conquest of France( or liberation rather).

yerssot
laughing out loud my country wasn't invaded or bombed? now that's funny

lemme tell you, the city I live in was bombed by your RAF because the library was a munition stack... they thought

I'm sorry but I'm not undermining your intelligence, I'm pointing out you missed out countries that participated BIG TIME and that you also have no idea what it is to be ruined, personally or for an entire country

Mr.Snuggles
whose fault??? why?

Clovie
but here they succeeded only because no1 bothered to help us.
here war started year earlier.
and the half of the country were destroyed by russian. coz they attacted us as well.

Mr.Snuggles
Also take in the fact that hitler only let people read... how can i say this.... "antisemitic" books. "praise hitler". BLECH.

Mr.Snuggles
ok everybody, pleeease define "us" every time you say it.

Darth Sauron
I meant the trenches dug in france.
They had to be refilled you know.

Clovie
our stupid goverment

Mr.Snuggles
US? UK? Germany? Russia? TELL ME.

Mr.Snuggles
well, yeah in WWI France was torn to pieces, but in WWII it was barely touched...reading only 400,000 dollars worth of damage. Take in the fact( or a least consider) that the allies of WWI blamed EVERYTHING on germany, and deprived of an army, thus making it vurnerable, and basically inviting hitler to gain his popular place in society....

dean7879
yerrsot i do know who participated in that war , i just didnt feel like writing them all down, oh and being bombed once does not account for the hundreds of times britain was bombed
By 1941, many of Britain's cities were in ruins, and the population was seemingly demoralised. London was being bombed very frequently, although many British cities were bombed throughout the war. A notable example of this is the bombing of Coventry bombing, when in a single night German bombers destroyed 100 acres of the city centre, and killed over 500 people. In addition to coping with the effects of bombing, the population of Britain had to cope with the German threat of invasion.

Moo Cow
my grampa fought in ww2 smart ....or was it the korean war....hmmm....me has forgot

yerssot
no, but writing down Canada wasn't that much of a trouble now was it? cause if you ask who were the big countries that liberated europe in WWII Canada is always mentioned, France isn't.
Please inform yourself better of the actions of the RAF before saying "bombed once", you're making a fool of yourself by saying this

ah and I see you quote from this site:
http://www.courseworkbank.co.uk/coursework/hardship_britain_during_world_war_ii_165/

Mr.Snuggles
uh huh.... i agree with the british chap, the nazi were physco.(mainly hitler) What the f**k?

Darth Sauron
My grandas uncle was one of the few that came back from the battle of the somme

He went over the top happy

yerssot
I believe you said WW 2 once or twice smile

Clovie
ok.
our WHOLE ****ing country has been bombed.
and the capitolcity totally burned only coz WE TRIED to fight with germans...
and there is a conentration camp in my city.. so.. maybe get yourself a rest, coz i'm sure it has been much worse here than in UK, capisci?

Moo Cow
okey, i always forget, me mom probably knows, ill ask her later yes

Mr.Snuggles
my grandpas best friend was decapitated during pearl harbor. :random fact:

Mr.Snuggles
WHAT CITY! tell me the locations please! i thought u were from USA or sumthin..

yerssot
or perhaps you were mistaken then too and wrote it down and it's a circle eek!

Clovie
me? from states? blink

poland. you know the lil place in the middle of europe.

yerssot
europe? blink stick out tongue

Clovie
sorry. i mean antarctica roll eyes (sarcastic) stick out tongue

Moo Cow
that just might be it eek!

dean7879
did i ****ing say that u didnt get bombed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gimme a break cos u are annoying me
did i say at all that your country was not bombed
to be fair i dont even no where u live

yerssot
if you're annoyed, just take a break for a minute and return when you're calmed down

Clovie
no. it does mean that we were left alone. cry
and no1 cared about us. cry
and.. weep

dean7879
yes i quoted from that site well done
saves me writing in my own words
no writing down canada wasnt no trouble but i chose not to
what country u from anyway canada?

Mr.Snuggles
Well guess who liberated you... or rather.... gave you new homes etc.? Not Stalin, no no. 'Twas the US of A.

dean7879
im sorry sad

Mr.Snuggles
and I know aucswitz was in Poland... so was Lodz... and Warsaw...

I love Europe. cool

Mr.Snuggles
smart you'll fins I know a lot about WWII smart

Mr.Snuggles
btw clovie, du sprechen sie Duecsth?

RaventheOnly
If anyones got a reason to complain about maltreatment after WW2 its Poland big grin they were basically traded to our enemy after the war... we overlooked Russias aggression in the beginning of the war erm

yerssot
from your point of view, but from my point of view it shows you lack knowledge of the subject and just blindly copy websites

and Mr.Snuggles,... did the USA "liberate" Poland? Hongary? ...?
don't give them too much credit, if it wasn't for Russia stopping Hitler, the states would have been swept away
and for your information, the Canadian Army liberated us, they combined forced with Canadians (duh), Polish, Brittish, Dutch and Belgian forces

dean7879
usa stayed out of the war for two years which was nice of em...they only joined in when they got attacked by the japs.....oh and if ure country got bombed to death then probably britain would of gave u new homes.....i cant see your point anyway

Clovie
it was no1.
russian army came just across on their way to berlin

auschwitz? yes. it's here.
but in my city was only smaller camp, i couldn't live inauschwitz cry


cry

Clovie
ja, warum?

dean7879
yerssot i didnt have to search websites do find out that britain got bombed...i used that peice of text because explained in good detail what happened

Mr.Snuggles
eh, ich sprechen beschen sie duecsth, wie geht's?

Clovie
thank you.



exacly we've been fighting all over the wolrd but no1 came here sad

Mr.Snuggles
ja, danke shern! raver

Mr.Snuggles
i have german/ polish roots, thus my last name: franz.

RaventheOnly
We had no reason to get involved during the initial conlfict and we supplied the Allies with everything no expression they survived on our grain our ammo our machine parts... our oil... Britian was over with and starved to death nerely... at one point Britian had one months supply of food at the heigt of the submarine conflict.

Clovie
did you want to say "ich spreche ein bischen deutsch"?confused
mir gehts nicht so schlecht, wie geht's dir?

Mr.Snuggles
yersott... who lost 6,000 me on D-day? sure the russians took the other half. If we(US) didnt attack France, the the Nazis coulda easily ran the Russians outta town. And what about Japan, hmm? were were our friendlys there? yeah, we didnt rescue the holocaust vitcims, but we sure helped make it easy for those who did.
US losses of WWII: 3 million men
Russia: 5 million
Germany:4 million
UK:...2 million
JAPAN:7 MILLION.

Mr.Snuggles
uh...ja, gut.or... guten...w/e.

RaventheOnly
Combined Russian and German casualties range alone into 23 million yes

Mr.Snuggles
remember: believe it or not, the japanese leaders were Nazi's too.

dean7879
u supplied us with stuff yes which we were grateful for
as churchill said to roosevelt:
We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire.
Neither the sudden shock of battle nor the long-drawn trials
of vigilance and exertion will wear us down. Give us the tools
and we will finish the job.

thanx for the tools usa....but it was britain fighting a tough war while the usa watched on for two years...dont act as if u saved us...good ol usa came along to save the day scenerio cos it wasnt

Mr.Snuggles
yeah, i agree. UK was fighting for 3 years before we pitched in actual troops. But all in all, we actually lost more men.... due to Japan. You guys wooped ...ahh whats his name.. oh Rommel in the desert there thumb up

dean7879
all in all it was a team effort, the allies fought hard to beat evil tyrants like hitler..and they all succeded and we should be proud

yerssot
if you're dying to make a comparison, compare it with the Battle of Stalingrad: 1.1 million soldiers and 100 000 civilians

if you would look at least a bit to the history you would know it's thanks to Russia that the WW ended! THEY stopped Germany, NOT the states. The eastfront was halted and they simply couldn't move further. The Us just took had the luck to take away the prize of "freedom fighter", they only joined when they were attacked, if you say america saved our asses, I say you gotta study history before discussing this

Clovie
i just reminded myslef why i hated history at school cry

Mr.Snuggles
yeah... Germany couldave sended reinforcements at any time if we didnt woop thier hind parts on D-Day. btw: we liberated France in 6 months smart thumb up

yerssot
couldn't word it any better smile

dean7879
Casualties in WW2

Soviet Union 25,568,000
China 11,324,000
Germany 7,060,000
Poland 6,850,000
Japan 1,806,000
Yugoslavia 1,700,000
Rumania 985,000
France 810,000
USA 495,000
Austria 480,000
Italy 410,000
Great Britain 388,000
Holland 250,000
Belgium 85,000
Finland 79,000
Canada 42,000
India 36,000
Australia 29,000
Albania 28,000
Spain 22,000
Bulgaria 21,000
New Zealand 12,000
Norway 10,000
South Africa 9,000
Luxembourg 5,000
Denmark 4,000
TOTAL 58,508,000

Mr.Snuggles
we gave britian full support... then attacked asia, then france, i do agree most of the credit goes to USSR, but you can't take the US outtas the picture...

Mr.Snuggles
civilians too?

dean7879
we aint takin usa out of the picture..they helped defeat hitler and end the war...as did all the other allies

yerssot
don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the US was useless in WWII cause they were not. I was refering to the fact that some think the US saved the day in WWII, which they clearly didn't without the help of ALL the allies

Clovie
we're at 4th place cry

Mr.Snuggles
ok, so we all come to a common conclusion. Every ally helped. woohoo. raver

dean7879
cant believe britain on that list are that far down...proves are tactics and toughness was grand!!
in ww1 britain had 900,000 plus casualtys!!!

Mr.Snuggles
"Don't weep for the pass, plaudit for the future" -me, september 2004-

Mr.Snuggles
past*

WindDancer
I said it once and I'll say it again.....The USA should have never enter WWII. They shoulda just left the British, and the French and the Germans fight their own war. Period!

dean7879
the future doesnt look that bright sad

Mr.Snuggles
....so ets let Japan obliterate us, okey dokey Mr. Smarty Pants.

WindDancer
We should had ignore Japan! Screw it! US lost more soldiers in the war than in Pearl Harbor. What was the point in joining the French and the British? They coulda handle the Germans without no problems! US should have remain NEUTRAL!

Mr.Snuggles
ok... lets let Japan take advantage of us. Now, lets let the already captured and occuopied france, and the "bombed to bits" UK, and let them handle the physco Nzis, and then deal with Japan!...no.

dean7879
winddancer i think we needed help from the usa in the war, they supplied us with a lot of stuff, if they had your attidude back in the war then things might not have been the same today

Mr.Snuggles
yaeh lol we'd be speaking duecsth and praising hitler. BLECH.

WindDancer
That was their war! The Nazi's bombing the UK or France was their business. Americans kept protesting agains't the US entering WWII. The only reason the Americans ended up fighting the Nazi's was because they were allies with Japan. The US should have been smarter than that. Nazi's wanted to wipe out lands that was their business, and that was something the British and the French should have dealt with. America should have stay out.

Mr.Snuggles
already explained y we joined. either way, the nazis would come after us. Besides, theres ALWAYS people who protest against war...dumby.
blink What the f**k?

Mr.Snuggles
and again, the french were already occupied and CONTROLLED by the nazi's in May, 1941.... (before Pearl Harbor...ahem...)

WindDancer
If they had my attitude back then there would be no US entering WWII. But since they didn't......the US entered and fought, and history was made.

Mr.Snuggles
so? the fact is: the US had to help win the war. admit it!

dean7879
hitler wanted to rule the world...the whole world ..yeah that includes the usa...so the usa joining the war was inevitable

Mr.Snuggles
preach it brother thumb up happy raver

WindDancer
dean7879> Hitler wanted to rule Europe. I think his allies wanted to ruled the world. Anyways, if Hitler would have conquer Europe, I'm pretty sure he'd woulda establish a treaty with the USA, Canada, Mexico, and the South America. I don't think he had the potential to fight another continent in same year. But then again this is only a huge "IF".

Mr.Snuggles
tell me why in his book it said: the world should be praising the Nazi "religion" or "party"(if you can call it that)... he was definitly bent on world destruction, but in 1944 the US got him on the defense... i gotta go gimme a message..cya

WindDancer
Simple! He was full of himself! Can you imagine his allies reading that nonsense? They would tell him to *bleep* off! Hitler had to change some of his views in order to keep his allies with him.

I mean come on! He wanted a pure Aryan race, but Asians don't cut it. What would you think the Japs said when they read his Aryan race policy? They prolly said "Heck no! This guy is nuts!" So, Hitler had to change some things in order to keep his friends in war. Simple!

The Omega

dean7879
cool smile

RaventheOnly
Unfourtunetly Japan also saw them selves as pure and Hitler divided the riches of the earth amngst his allies.... Japan would take Asia while Italy wanted to make a second Roman empire in Africa. Hitler wanted mainland Europe... he respected Britian and offered to Sign peace with them many times but they refused and Operation Sealion was attempted but the Battle of Britian angered him and he turned on his original target Russia.

WindDancer
The Japanese wanted power in Asia and the Pacific. Yes, the Americans were in their way of their invasion with Maui and Hawaii. So eventually they had to attack Pearl Harbor in order ensure the Americans wouldn't use that base of operations.

But as I said early, The Americans should had ignore the Pearl Harbor attack. It was too obvious that it would trigger a confrontation with the Nazi's. There were Americans that kept protesting about America entering the war. I don't blame them for protesting. I would had say the same thing. Let the Nazi's fight their war with Europe. WWI was a good example that America was better off by not intefering.

I can understand the thread of the Nazi's on the rest of the Europeans nations...but ah well, it was their war to begin with. The way I see it America should have minded their own business and ignore WWII.

Mr.Snuggles
im not ever gonna agree with you... laughing out loud

finti
more like being under Communist rule Praising Stalin and viewing Lenin as close to divinity in Communist heaven.
The Rusians was on the verge of single handedly crushing the Germans, after d-day it was a race between the allied of the west and Russia. The race was which side could get the furthest into Europe. The allied from the west tried as hard as they could to get as far east as they could to hold the Russian advance toward the west to a minimum.

BackFire
Hitler only had one nut.

Clovie
but they still were to slow cry

WhiteEagle
1. Hitler was sentenced to 5 years in jail for high treason, not murder.

2. The book (mien kampf) was more centred around his political history, but it did contain his ideals about what government and politics should be like.

3. True.

4. True.

5. Hitler was never captured or killed by the allied forces (at least I have never heard anything to suggest it). The official story is that he shot himself in his private bunker.

6. Hitler did know his father but I imagine he hated him as he was abusive toward adolf and his mother.

8 & 9. I don't know about that.

10. In that case you would agree that none of what they did is really their fault, it was the demons fault. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Mr.Snuggles
1. high treasopn, and murder smile

2. ? yeah it said jews should be "cast from the world"...

5. yeah , i made a woopsie. he died on may 1, 1945 either a syinide pill or a gunshot.

6...now you've gone too far... I thought... nvm.

8&9. I do. smile

10. Youre a christian then?

Mr.Snuggles
and i was thier fault, they have free will. So should everyone else, the demons just tempt, but i think they were possesed... blink

finti
i cheer more for that other guy eek!

Mr.Snuggles
uh, other guy?

finti
looks like you are well informed about your own belief there snuggles roll eyes (sarcastic)

Mr.Snuggles
god?...hitler? saddam?...you?

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