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Ok, all you Americans out there, think about how you felt on the morning of Septembet 11th, 2001 when you learned what had happened.

Now, think about how you would feel if the whole thing was staged, in one form or another.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pentagon.html

That scared the living daylights outta me, and i am not one to just believe everything i am told. So i went out and looked for proof. And i didn't find one obscure site with a few doctored pictures. i found PAGES of information, with TONS of pictures and schematics showing how things did happen, and what DIDN'T happen. And i am fairly certain that flight 77 did NOT fly into the Pentagon, as it was said to have. There is also some evidence, although much less extensive, that the WTC was not hit by the planes it was supposed to have. You are free to believe or disbelieve, to research or not, but this is definitely changing the way i am thinking.

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wow...in one post, this thread goes completely off-topic. but anyway, i realized i posted this in the wrong forum, and there is another, more on-topic thread in the general forum, so this thread can be closed. thank you, and i'm sorry for the trouble.

go here for the other thread. http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f11/t306875.html

I believe the WTC were hit by the planes
The pentagon probably blew part of the building up as an excuse to go to war.
Two planes hitting two bulidings, although tragic is still only a random act of terrorism, The pentagon proabbly thought if they could get people to believe they were attacked too, they could make you believe it was an attack on all america and the government.

omg i never thought of this shocking was anyone acctually there when that happened?

Was there casualties at the pentagon?

shocking im thinking the same thing

so where is the boening 757? if there is no evidence of an AA plane?

thats what i was wondering... i think the goverments hiding something

there were 50+ only because that particular section was under refurnishng and modernization ...... God i hate when the concpiracy theorists only far fetctch inclings of ideas get involved... this is worse then Roswell

Well, the planes were real. The Frenchmen doing the documentary on firefighters caught the first plane on tape....

I think the results of what happened that tragic day have been misused, but they clearly happened......

God i already explained this in the other thread that was made in the GD forum

A plane accelerating at above 500+ mph will nearly desinigrate on impact yet still leave reckage... the pentagon is built with several concentric walls so the remains of the plane are probably strewn threw out the inards of the building and pasted against the finale wall...

By the way, choice #3 is inappropriate for a serious topic like this one.

Listen guys Semptember 11th was a tragedy. George Bush is an alien muther fugga. He starts so much shit. He always be doissin on my grandma 4 a nice piece of ass.

Sike yall im playin but I do beleive what we were told was the truth

No cover ups,no conspiracies, the writing is on the wall,or in the published book. I doubt people would bother to read that one though,we like video tapes. It surprised me that when 9/11 happend, how many people responded with the same remark, "ithought i was watching a movie" I mean what the fuc.k does this say about us?

Please speak english...

there were lots of people there, at the pentagon. Some said they saw a 757, some said they heard what sounded like a missile. but what is interesting is, we know the trajectory of the flight 77, over arlington cemetary because of two eye witnesses. but that doesn't explain the , what was it, 7 lightposts that fell over. they were far enough away that there is NO way the 757 could fly over arlington, then hit the lightpoles, then hit the pentagon at the angle it hit.

and yes, there were casualties at the pentagon, many because no one was allowed to go into the building and rescue them. yes, that is right. a medic copter showed up and wanted to help, they were turned away, they helped anyway, and they weren't allowed back.

oh, and Darth, there is no way that the pentagon could
1) find out that we are under attack
2) find a fighter plane and a kamikaze pilot
3) get the fighter off the ground
4) and attack the pentagon, under the guise of being hit by a plane hijacked by terrorists,
in the time allowed. the Pentagon was hit ~8:40. the first tower was hit ~8:00. this would mean that, either all four were hijacked, or all of them were planned beforehand, not by terrorists outside our borders, but by terrorists inside our government.

Also, to those who think that the WTC towers fell due to intense heat...the heat produced by an oil fire, is nowhere near the heat needed to melt steel. Also, how is it that the first tower is hit head on, where the explosion occurs inside the tower, and the second tower falls first, even though the majority of the explosion occured *outside* the tower?

Wow... that video's really making me think. The videotapes were confiscated... so what really hit? If it were some missles, that'd probably have thrown the public into chaos, knowing that missles were so swift not to be detected... but what happened? Why not release the tapes?

oh i get ya! thanks

this has all been explained and went over before. Read the commission reports. the whole collapsing thing of the towers has been gone over,disected and sewed back up again. i mean really. There is no conspiracy goin on out ther. except for Area 51, and the cover up of the Oreo company assinating JFK . That is a total different story though I stil think the illuminati did it with their mystical powers that be. woooooeeeeewoooo

planes don't just vaporize. they leave parts of them behind. and unfortunately, all the evidence from the WTC and the Pentagon was taken away, so it couldn't be analyzed.

I didn't really know about it until after lunch. . the teachers didn't know when to tell us. . .but I really my first thought was that it was a joke and somebody was going to be in biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig trouble for freaking everyone out like that. . .. and then it wasn't a joke. .

yeah, my mom woke me up, and i came to the T.v about three minutes before the second plane flew into the building. as for the Pentagon, big god damn deal. who cares if it were a commercial jet or a private one. does it really matter. Ifn this were the case. then someone was just covering up their own ass for ignorance or jumping the gun. Heres the thing though if you want to believe that this planes never flew into the pentagon, then what happend to all the people that died on that plane crash? what happend to all those people's whos families they never got to see again? were they made up to?

No, but they probably were killed nonetheless, possibly the plane flew into the ocean, or crashes deep in some forest that nobody still has found, and since then the government has cleaned up.

nvm

no they don't but most planes leave reckage because they trying to stop and land ... the terrorsits accelerated into the building at full thrust .......... most planes trying to land and crash are going at about 200+ mph.... pentagon plane was goin 500+

The video at the pentagon is filming at 2 frames per second.... it didn't see crap because the object is going 500+ mph!!!!!!!!!

You are joking right?

I'm talking about the videos around there, NOT the Pentagon video. If you watch the flash movie, you'd understand.

That was the only video tape that caught what looked like the plane it said in the video.... other people reported seeingit on buildings and stuff as it flew by

well in the video, two or three other places caught it but it never got released

Investigations always suck up all the evidence and always end up lossing it

there was that plane that was heading for the Washington DC that went down in Pennsylvania

the peeps brought it down... i don't get why it crashed though someone on that plane should have at least a basic knowledge of how to keep the craft level after they waisted the terrorists

just face it ppl... we live in a society where not everything is as it seems and where people get lied to.

Amen brother!

The terrorists brought it down as the people were ramming down the cockpit door!

did they? do you know that for certain?

i am sorry, but i cannot believe anything about 9/11 that we were told to believe anymore...it reminds me too much of '1984' and 'Brave New World'.

honestly, i didnt know what was going on till like, noon.
i was like, "sweet, no class, we're just gonna watch tv!"
then i saw

yea a steep nose dive is impossible to recover from without experience in a airliner

things arent as they seem, because of people who spread under educated knowledge and lackluster conspiery theories to the minds of their impressionable firends. go tell the families of the people who died on that Airplane, that their father never existed and was made up to be on a plane that never existed, that never actually crashed into the Pentagon that was actually a missle someone conjured up in their minds, so there is no reason to cry because your daddy never existed, therefore you dont exist. Maybe the workers were a bit restrained to let people around the area, such as medical helicopters, because they diddnt know what the hell was going on, they didnt know who to trust untill they got orders. No they diddnt want to save dieng friends, yeah that is it, i am sure of it. Can we stop these insipid theories now?

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ragesRemorse> that is nothing like what i am saying. I am saying that, i am sure those people were killed, but by whom, and when, is more up for interpretation than we may have previously thought. As for insipid, i don't think that pictures, interviews, and video evidence can be considered "insipid". If what happened on 9/11 really isn't what they told us, don't you want to know the truth? doesn't it make you the least bit curious to know why there is the question at all? i wouldn't believe it at all if there weren't so many missing pieces. When you find an explanation for something, you don't follow a theory that has gaping holes in it, you look more until you find how those pieces fit.

Korri> awww...

all i kno is that i was in 7th grade and walked into the library and my librarian pointed at the tv with tears in her eyes and said "purposely" my enitre class (oo yea all 5 of us) sat there and watched as the second plane hit and then all of a sudden everyone was running thru the halls becuz a graduate of our skewl werked there and so the entire high skewl (all 29 of us) piled in the gym and watched the news footage.

all i have ta say about it, and i'm sorry if i offend anybody, but it's pretty damn sad it took all of this to unite us all over again, pathetic

I knew I should have blown up Crazy Robot Alien World when I had the chance...

*fires nukes* Whoops, that's not the Crazy Robot Alien World...there goes Chechnya!

I take it nobody liked that...

I woke up in 9th and walked by the TV and it was showing the plane smack into the first tower... and i said pilot error and when i turned as i walked by and saw the other plane hit the other i said... terrorists....

Yeah, that was a messed up day. I thought my parents were overreacting because I didn't fully grasp the situation...

I reckon everything happened as it looked, no government conspiracys or robot aliens

Yes i would defaintly want to know, but what makes you think that what they told us is anything but the truth? Some hokey website that wants to spread conspiracy theories? Everyone linked to the goverment agrees on what happend. the only thing no one can agree on, is should security have been more tightend. Asking this is just silly. We had no reason to have tightend security, the same reason that the Russians had no reaosn to have tightend security, but they will now. I dont always believe the goverment, by no means, but about somthing as grand scale and emotional as this. Of course i am going to. Both sides raise no questions on what happend, or why it happend. the only question is should it hae happend. there is absolutely no reason to believe a conspiracy theory except for wanting to believe so.

it isn't one hokey website...there are many websites with the same pictures. i wouldn't believe it myself if the evidence was against it. i would love to believe that it wasn't the government, it was terrorists. but the evidence doesn't seem to support that argument. if you do a search for "Pentagon "september 11th" "flight 77"" in google.com, about 900 sites come up, and all the ones i saw were questioning the validity of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon. I found one site, http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77/links.html ,
that has links to at least 30 different sites concerning this topic. I understand your conviction, but the evidence that says that Flight 77 ran into the Pentagon, that it could feasibly have run into the Pentagon, is lacking.

can't you leave this event alone

i am not exactly sure what you mean by that.

can you leave the twin towers alone then

feel lucky, not many people have heard me say that

so, you would rather be ignorant of the truth, and 'safe' in your ignorance, than try and find out what happened, even if it is not what we were led to believe? That we were brought into 2 wars because of it?

What ignorance are you referring to? these facts have been gone over time and time again. I understand how you could be swayed into believing some conspiracy theory. They can be at times convincing. Just pick up the commision reports. The events of 9/11 are closely disected. Alkida took full responsibility for what happen to the twim towers and the pentagon,and what was going to be the countries capitol. The goverment knows exactly what the terrorists names were on each flight,and have detailed plans from diaries. there is no cover up. Of course there will be certain things the goverment are not going to disclose. Information that may comprise and make public the way certain things are done. Read the commision reports though, if you really believe a cover up.

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