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how come sith all have the word darth in their titles?


what's a darth?? anyone???

I believe 'Darth' means Dark.

Sith change their names on becoming Sith to honour Darth Bane. He created the 'always two there are' practise, which was the only way they could survive. Before that, when there were many Sith, they were not all called Darth something. One of them, for example, was Exar Kun (the first to ue a two-bladed lightsaber.)

DAR..k lords of the si..TH. DAR....TH

just wait till may and you'll probably find out. apparently the next movie will have a buttload of that kind of stuff since we are supposed to see at least some scenes of anakin training and learning about the sith knights.

Now if vader was called Darth Vader what would be the title of sidious if he was the master and obvious lord of the sith?

Em Darth Sidious....... lol

yeah...i was always told that the word DARTH was synonomys with DARK LORD OF THE SITH,very cool JJ!!!

it is to honour darth bane!

were do they get the names after the darth? do they just make em up?

Their names usually follow a certain meaing, all I know is that the Master gives his apprentice the name...I believe.

as earlier mentioned, it's DARk lord of the siTH. Darth is a title, like Mister, but in this case it means they're a sith lord.

it just sounds cool. plus, it would be totally exhausting saying "dark lord of the sith maul" or "dark lord of the sith vader"...

I read a quote from GL somewhere, and I can't remember where (sorry)
that the meaning behind the name 'Vader' will be revealed in Ep3.

Vader = Rebirth perhaps ?

or Vader = Father ? finally Anakin has a father and its sidious ..............................oh whatever

or maybe vader = crazy ****ed up guy with robotic limbs.

he's said multiple times over the years that he chose the name because Vader meant father....i.e. Luke's father. But we will have to wait till ROTS to find out it's in-universe meaning.

Actually, Vader=Invader - In

Just as Sidious=Insidious - In

<---Just as Surgent=Insurgent - In

(It doesn't seem like a coincidence to me)

so like darth intyranous and drath inmaul??

No, they don't have to have the "-In" thing. It's just the origin of how those two names were determined. GL obviously came up with Maul and Tyranus to show that it's not a rule, but just a small stylistic pattern.

i was just bein facetious.

Why?

why what?

you know what facetious means, right??

it means i was joking about the "darth inmaul and darth intyranous" comments... j o k i n g

is this why you say "why?"

Why do you ask "is this why you say "why?" "?

I always wondered that too why ask why?

drink bud dry

yeah,i shall try a bud dry,i dont know why,but i'll try....

Err... when did he say this?

When he developed Vader's character, he wasn't Luke's father...

...but how do you explain that face kenobi made when he was telling luke about vader destroying his father,or when beru says luke has too much of his father in him,and lars saying thats what i'm afraid of......

the only thing I saw as far as a face goes is sadness. Can't he just be sad about loosing a good friend?

Ush, I'm not sure, there was a thread about this late last year or early this year, and a bunch of people pointed out that it means father in some language. I think that's a little too much of a coincidence...don't you? Maybe he wasn't Luke's dad when he came up with Vader because on the Bonus Disc he says originally Vader was to be the bad father and Obi-wan a good father, then he combinded the father idea to just being Vader. Lucas discusses this in the ANH commenary as well. So even at the time of ANH's final drafts and filming, Lucas knew Vader would be Luke's father, that's why Obi-wan looks uncomfortable when he tells Luke Anakin's story. Which ends up being B.S. from that whole certain point of view. Lucas also said he wrote a 200 page script which had the makings of ESB and ROTJ in them. He didn't have time to bring the whole Anakin is really Vader into it once he took the first act for the first movie out of the bigger script. Again, evidence he had it planned. So, maybe not when he "developed" Vader in the concept phase, but certainly when he finished the character and named him, since we apparently need to get so technical around here to be believed.

But will his name be explained in ROTS? That question is still unanswered. And if anakin doesn't know Luke is his son (the added lines for the emperor in ESB) why would the Emperor give him the title FATHER in whatever language?

It doesn't mean that to the Emperor, it means that IN OUR WORLD. Two different things. I'm saying that's why LUCAS chose the name. I don't know how the Emperor will explain it.

OHHHH I see you'r point. Thanx for the explanation.

Dartj Surgent--that's what I always thought before anyone told me the father thing. I like that name reasoning. But won't it be lame if it just ends up that the Emperor just loves being evil so much that he names all his disciples with evil words? that seems really really crappy to me...I would hope he's smarter than that.

That's funny, I always thought Vader meant "father".


cornponious

vader is dutch for father,
but in the original draft for ep4, he was not luke's father.
perhaps he was originally meant to be someone elses father.
its a weird cooincidence though isnt it?

ok, but still.. what is the final word on what Darth means??

TAA DAA!!!!!!!!!!

well to me kenobi had that face like he was hiding something.....when he was telling luke about his father,yeah he was sad,but i dont know.... check out the part in ANH when he explains to luke how "vader destroyed your father"

PVS--not according to the DVD's and Lucas' commentary. He says by the time he wrote that 200 page script, he had all of that stuff realitively ironed out. The FIRST ACT of the 200 page script was expanded to ANH. He talks about how he didn't have time to get into Vader being Anakin, Luke's dad in ANH, so it ended up in ESB with more build up so it was a bigger deal. But he knew that whole part of the story. He said he wrote everyone's back story out in outline form, which is what he used to start eh prequels. This is in the commentary tracks of the DVDs.

Originally posted by mephistodesigns
Ush, I'm not sure, there was a thread about this late last year or early this year, and a bunch of people pointed out that it means father in some language. I think that's a little too much of a coincidence...don't you? Maybe he wasn't Luke's dad when he came up with Vader because on the Bonus Disc he says originally Vader was to be the bad father and Obi-wan a good father, then he combinded the father idea to just being Vader. Lucas discusses this in the ANH commenary as well. So even at the time of ANH's final drafts and filming, Lucas knew Vader would be Luke's father, that's why Obi-wan looks uncomfortable when he tells Luke Anakin's story. Which ends up being B.S. from that whole certain point of view. Lucas also said he wrote a 200 page script which had the makings of ESB and ROTJ in them. He didn't have time to bring the whole Anakin is really Vader into it once he took the first act for the first movie out of the bigger script. Again, evidence he had it planned. So, maybe not when he "developed" Vader in the concept phase, but certainly when he finished the character and named him, since we apparently need to get so technical around here to be believed.

In Dutch (the Netherlands) vader = father

thanks for bumping an ancient thread for some good ol' regurgitated EU

Vader is dutch for father

Vader means father in many many languages. Doubt it has anything to do with Darth vader though.

Why not?

Well I answered a bit of the question I supose..

But why? No need.

Originally posted by chris-tofer
Well I answered a bit of the question I supose..

you answered precisely nothing

lol

I felt like it..

how did sidious get darth "vader"?

Darth means "Shadow Warrior"

Maul is German for Mouth, an animals mouth to be exact (human mouth is Mund)

After naming him, Sidious usually uses Lord Vader...in fact, didn't Tarkin and Leia use Lord Vader?

And the hits just keep on comin........