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In the OT the empire is not so orderly like in the begining. The Storm Troopers are no longer cloned from a single source, there is a lot of contempt in the officers and you can't help but think that the Emperor is not really in charge. The Empire is looseing major battles to the small band of Rebels, like the first DS. You would think that if the Empire could wipe out the Jedi they coul surely wipe out the Rebelion.

After years of sucess the Emperor probably became too confident. It would ot have been the first time for that to happen, that's probably how many of the old empires in our world have fallen.

yeppers

Power breeds confidence, so if they are powerfull enough to be confident would'nt the empire be powerfull enough to wipe out the rebelion?

in your question "does the emporer lose site of his plan?"
there lies a problem. see...the emporer already succeded
in his grand scheme. he controls the galaxie.

i think success brings complaicency.
the jedi are dead, and the emporer sees the rebels as
mere buzzing flies. even after the deathstar was destroyed,
me maintains his arrogance. on the very fleet that destroyed
the DS1 "it is of no concern to us". um palps...these are the same
rebels that blew up the first one!!! arogant fool we was.

So you do think that once he had control of the galaxy he didn't care if he kept it or not? I would think that his Grand scheme was still being played out.

i think he cared, but since the jedi were extinct,
he took no threat seriously. if something went wrong,
he blamed incompitence in his own empire rather than
acknowledge a threat. thats what i think anyway

he wanted the universe but it is a big universe so I don't think he could have controlled everyone that lives on planets way out like han solo who out ran the emperiors ships.

So in effect he did lose sight of his plan. If the rebels were able to do it once he should have seen, even through his arrogance, that they could do it again.

i see it more as: he already accomplished his plan.
after which it was just a matter of maintaining the empire,
which was more of a job than a plan. his scheming was
complete. after that his only 'plan' was make everyone
miserable, which he never lost sight of

point im making is, he never planned when it came to the rebels,
not like he planned in the PT anyway. he was presented with an annoyance,
and came up with a trick to trap and kill the rebels.

to grab a flyswatter to kill the fly is not a plan, but a reaction.
but perhaps we are on different wavelengths here. i am referring to
the grand shceme of the PT, not the short-term plan of killing the rebels.
i think they do not go hand in hand.

<---devils advocate

If he put as much thought into killing the rebel as he did the Jedi ROTJ wouldn't be the last movie.

Over Analyzing Alert!

It's programed to go off before you do.

thats why i'm here

Over analyzing canlead to the DARK SIDE! I find myself being drawn to it. I wonder if i need to change my title to sithjunkie1138?

give in to your curiosity.

give yourself to the darkside.

only your overanalyzing can end this debate.

NOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo...........

every beginning..............has a end

how does this sound "your over confidence is your weakness"

cool then he says your faith in your friends is yours.

power breeds isolation. also, the emperor was prolly the single most powerful force user alive at that point, with the only person that could kill him firmly under his control.

The Emperor thought he was the last single most powerful force user alive.......

It is possible this thread will be over analysis before all is done...

Embrase your analitical side. Use your Jedi weopon to strike down the nay sayers and TAKE YOUR PLACE BY MY SIDE!!!!!

if we did not overanalyse star wars,
the star wars forums would not exist.
we are endlessly debating a series of films,
fiction, fantasy. so dont preach that here!!!
join the dark side, with each passing moment
you become more kmc's servant

what's going on?

same shit, different thread