Warhammer 40K : Dawn of War

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Godshinto
Yhea I have had the game since beta it's a great game. It follows the board game but 100 times better. It just came on the market and my local game Center already has it along with a few other new games out there. Cyber Jocks

SpikeSpiegel

BackFire
I played the beta/demo, and it seemed neat. I'll probably get it eventually.

Godshinto
Do you know what that works out to be in american because it's around $50 here. Where did you order it from.

RaventheOnly
OMG droolio i got it droolio its like a mix between WarCraft III, Star Craft, and rise of nations .... the grahics are awsiome and the play is great....

SpikeSpiegel

Maverick2364
Yeah I have the demo, it's a great game.

RaventheOnly
Space Marines ROCK eek!

Can't wait till i get my cable modem back on droolio

SpikeSpiegel
I want an expansion pack wit hmy army in it....Daemonhunters

eleveninches
I bought and installed it, but my computer refuses to completely install direct-x. It starts to install and then says that one of the required files is not trustworthy. I need to get my PC fixed before I can play it.

RaventheOnly
cry i feel your pain sad that almost happened to when i installed sims 2 but i restarted the comp because it was a program that interupted the installation and re-installed it and it was fine .... whewwwwwwwwww......

i just beat the campaign today and it seems like they left it open for an expansion.... it was only 12 missions long and you can only play as the Blood Ravens sad

tabby999
it might be good but it'll never touch playing with real modles and proper armies!

BackFire
Of course those toy models and armies cost hundreds of dollars...

SpikeSpiegel

Unholy_Cheese
Theres a new warhammer game? confused1

RaventheOnly
http://www.relic.com/images/dow/screens/Last_Stand.jpg

droolio it rocks and looks like this on the lowest grachic settings even big grin when the enemy gets close they draw swords big grin

RaventheOnly
http://www.relic.com/product/dawnofwar/description.php

http://www.relic.com/images/dow/screens/Battle_03.jpg

RaventheOnly
http://www.relic.com/images/dow/screens/wh40k_screen001.jpg

SpikeSpiegel
Doesn't look like that on mine...

RaventheOnly
blink it does on mine blink

RaventheOnly
Blood Ravens big grin

Kael
mine looks nothing like those screenshots cry

RaventheOnly
cry why are does yours not look like that? cry you know if you hold ALT and move the mouse you can shift it into any direction right?

Kael
no confused i think yours is zoomed in, but i dont know the shorcut sad

SpikeSpiegel
Probably because my PC is rubbish - ah well new pc this week eek!

Kael
well mine pc is fine so it can be that.

RaventheOnly
This is a direct screen shot from my game i just took less then a minute ago:

SpikeSpiegel
I've never actually looked at it close up, but the animations between campaign are horrible

Kael
my view is from above

RaventheOnly
hold ALT and move the the mouse stick out tongue that is the key strok to rotate the camera big grin

RaventheOnly
well considering they are actually using the actions that are ingame grachics no expression i think they are pretty good no expression each character has 9 different sets of actions... ranging from terror and fleeing in retreat to executing the last member of the enemy squad and commanders. big grin I love the way the dreadnauts grab enemies and smash them into the ground breaking thier spine big grin

SpikeSpiegel
I'll show you...

SpikeSpiegel
here, it's ok but nowhere near as good as those screens

Kael
yea...holding ALT and moving the mouse works great. Thanks RaventheOnly. Happy Dance

Spike wait for your new PC, then check out the graphics.

RaventheOnly
No prob Kael big grin stick out tongue

Try this:

play a level then at the end save it as a recorded game at the end. hen turn the grahics at thier hightest and watch the play back and you will see the true level i'm talkin about big grin

oh and change the settings to 32 bit and watch the beginning movie after the credits droolio that video rocks droolio

tabby999
go orks

eleveninches
what is your favourate race?

tabby999
um.....orks.....duh.......yeah

Kael
well mine are the space marines.

SpikeSpiegel
Mine are the Daemonhunters (Which I collect) But they're not in the game sad

Godshinto
If you want to talk systems guys I ownzrs all of your PC's.

RaventheOnly
Regular Space Marines and Chaos big grin

eleveninches
Does anybody else here collect the actual 40k armies??
I started about 8 years ago, and have over 300 models and tanks of 40k space marines and chaos marines

SpikeSpiegel
Yeah I've got some Daemonhunters. I'm going to get more soon I've got a friend who wants a game with me so I need to build my forces

tabby999
2500 point ork army, had it for 5 years. but im thinking of selling it to pay for my car. i dont see why people cant love the orks, they are the coolest army of all of them, no qualms over "is it realistic to have the Blood Angels (the coolest of the marines) fighting the Dark Angels (the shitest of the marines), they are on the same side?", whereas with the orks you can fight anyone!

SaTsuJiN
isnt this like a boardgame come to life? how does it translate into gaming? I heard someone talking about this , but I havent played it yet erm

BackFire
Supposedly it's very good. I still need to buy it.

tabby999
you play with small figurenes of the armys, each representing a single soldier in the army. you can play as the human army (Imperial Guard) Geneticly Advanced Humans (Space Marines, who are broken up into diffrent chapters, each run with different special abilities and powers), the evil Space Marines (Chaos, who are broken into 4 seperate forces of evil), the good Aliens (Eldar (kind of like Space Elves with cool gun) or the Tau (really cool looking guys with big guns), the BAD ASS ALIENS (Tyranid (basicly like the aliens from Alien with modifications) Dark Eldar (like Eldar but REALLY REALLY EVIL, imagine S&M super beasts from hell) Necrons (effectivly Egyptian Terminators) or Orks (like the ones from Lord Of the Rings, but not small and punny, 12 feet tall and can bite you in half). you have Tanks and space craft for each race, all having advantages and dissadvantages respectily. The game is time consuming, but you have to think alot to win (its like chess with guns). The modles have to be constructed and painted, something many people do, not even to play with the models but simply for the pleasure of it, and so does the battlefeild. the rules seem fairly daunting at fistr, but are fairly easy to pick up. If you want to know more, grab a copy of the magazine White Dwarf. thats all i can think of

SaTsuJiN
Neat.. I hope the game is simpler than the actual real life version o_O

BackFire
I played the demo, it's really simple.

eleveninches
Ive got about 15-20'000 pts worth of models in the old (2nd edition) edition of 40k.

RaventheOnly
it is nothing even close to the board version other then the units are from the board version stick out tongue

the resource management was built around the ideal of capturing threw battle... the more you fight the more area you own ... and the bigger your army is. you get squads but can reinforce and double the size of each and each you can equip with different weapons... like scouts start with 2 soldiers with machine guns and you can pay reasources to get additional two and equip them at you desire with flame throwers, sniper rifles or plasma rifles.... the terrain effetcs defense bonus or penalties... and morale plays a part... if it drops below a certain level the firepower and defense drops while the movement speed of the unit is doubled.... you can't just charge the enemy fron outnumbering you ten to one or the squads will break big grin its totally different compared to any RTS i've played big grin

eleveninches
It's so difficult to play a full game of real 40k with the number of models i have in my space marine army, as there is not a room in my house that would be big enough for a full scale battle without the models being far too crowded. So the only thing I can do is start with 2000 points on each side and bring in 1000 points of reserves every other turn.

dark1365
Have you read W40k novel "Fire Warrior" yet? Very good. Game's even better.

BackFire
I'll be picking this game up today, unfortunately I heard there are only 10 missions in the single player campaign...that's so damn short.

They better offer up some free expansions in the future.

RaventheOnly
the missions rocked even though there were only a couple... cry i really wanted to fight some more cry i hope they start releasing new skirmish maps messed online 1v1 is sometimes very strange... there are rushes that are very interesting blink

BackFire
I just picked up the game and am installing it now. I've really enjoye the demo but have heard that there are only about 11 campaign missions, which kinda sucks.

ldene
there are only 11 missions but the gameplay is great. I recommend zooimig in on the battles to watch where 40k really excels.

tabby999
the 13th Leigon book is the best of the series

Yuna33
whats that?

RaventheOnly
considering you haven't responded for nearly 6 hours , i take it you like it eek! big grin

BackFire
Indeed I do, fun game. I love zooming in to watch the action take place.

It's just a shame that the campaign is so short. I'd love a compaign for the orks, so far they're my favorite race.

RaventheOnly
i like the space marines and chaos.... my least fav is the Eldar... which if you can believe it, is what the pros on the net use... they are rather over powered if you use them right messed

BackFire
I haven't tried the eldars yet. The space marines are awesome too, I just like the way the Orks get their own recourses and have to build larger bases in order to produce more infantry.

Also, teh squiggath is hella nuts.

RaventheOnly
there are so many animations eek! and the executon of the last squad member rocks eek! but i want more missions and maps... cry you can make badges and banners big grin

oh... and my title is RavenShadow stick out tongue if you ever see me online big grin i have two stars.

RaventheOnly
have you gotten the warboss for the orks yet? messed the guy is like unstoppable fear

BackFire
Yeah, he's tight, we should play online together sometime, when I get a better feel for the game, of course stick out tongue

Lord_Andres
Just a little quastion, when is this game taking plase?

BackFire
in the 41st century, hence the name.

Lord_Andres
Oh I c, buta isint Warhammer suppose to take plase in a Medieval peroid? I have seen many pics showing knights and dwarfs and stuff

BackFire
Yeah, I asked my friend about that since he knows more about table top games, and he informed me that there are two versions: The medievil one (which is what the Warhammer Online game will be modeled after) and the futuristic one, which is what Dawn of War is modeled after.

SpikeSpiegel
Yeah, Warhammer (medevil) and Warhammer 40,000 (Which is set in the year 40k)

RaventheOnly
yes i still got to learn the rushes.... and the counters to certain troops...

watch out for possessed squads... i've seen one squad kill 40 orks and a big mek all in one battle... fear

RaventheOnly
but they use chain swords in the 40k version shifty

tabby999
the orks kick arse, they are tough mofos! do they have the actual race characters in the game like Ghrazgull Thrakka? hes effin TOUGH!

SpikeSpiegel
Or force swords shifty

tabby999
what about power claws and scyths? theyre pretty gnarly

Unholy_Cheese
Damn, this looks awesome shocking

eleveninches
I own a copy of the game, but my computer still refuses to install direct-x, so i havnt played it yet.

I have heard people say that the space marine Assault terminators in the game are rather useless. Is this true, because they are awesome in the actual 40k tabletop game (they destroy vehicles and heavy armoured units with ease).

Unholy_Cheese
Yeah, dont they jump like 10 inches on the boards?
Do u know if u get templas?

BackFire
That's what they do in the game as well. They're the best assualt infantry in the game.

RaventheOnly
in hell eek! the terminators can wipe the floor with any other infantry and use war hammers, they can even fight tanks one on one big grin ... they have personal teleporters and prior to that can be inserted anywhere on the map threw pod drop big grin

RaventheOnly
yes and chaos has thier own version which is the best ranged infantry in the game.

BackFire
The chaos are really fun. I love their style and their demons.

The bloothirster is my pimp, holy shit that thing is awesome.

The battles in this game are so sweet, It's great just watching them.

RaventheOnly
eek! droolio hell yeah... grind them down till they break... or die doing it eek! "we are CHAOS, CHAOS..... IS STRONG!!!!!!!!!!" laughing out loud


haven't seen a fight that didn't have a surprise or two laughing out loud

Unholy_Cheese
Can u get the korn demon?

RaventheOnly
yes its called a Bloodthirster big grin its a Daemon of Khorne big grin

tabby999
hell no, the ternimators are hard, thats true, but the Blood Angles Blood Squads are heaps tougher in close combat, the Tyranids Warriors wipe the floor with terminators and the Ork Nobs in mega armor WHIP the termis hands down. so there wink

RaventheOnly
stick out tongue we are talking about the PC game version stick out tongue there isn't a Blood Angle Chapter in this game stick out tongue Nobs, Obliterators, Terminators, Eldar Harpies, Eldar High Council, and Possesed Chaos squads are melee specialists in this one. stick out tongue

eleveninches
What are Jump pack Marine Assault squads like in the game compared to terminators in melee?

tabby999
damn, they should have Blood Angels, there straight up battle feild MONSTERS! but the orks are better, the nobs just kick arse all over the place

RaventheOnly
Well... jet packs get thier asses wooped by the possessed marines and the terminators slaughter them.

tabby999
can you shoot out their jump packs so they fall to the ground and leave a splat mark? that'd be cool. oh and are there the ork rokkit boyz? Da Vultures and the like, and they crash into the enemy if they cant land

RaventheOnly
There are rokkit boyz stick out tongue and jet jump jump troopers on chaos and S Marines. no they just drop to the ground when they shoot them and they wont jump unless they can land, however they are REALLY quick. messed

eleveninches
How tough is the bloodthirster in the game

RaventheOnly
well.... it can fight a whole army alone stick out tongue but with support, its unstoppable... if it doesn't fight it losses life fear

eleveninches
crazy. I cant wait to get my PC fixed so that it will play the game. I should be getting broadband installed in my home soon as well, so ill be able to play online big grin

eleveninches
How many units are normally on the battlefield at any one time. Is there a limit as to how big the army can be?

tabby999
are their Eldar Howling Banshees? there wicked

RaventheOnly
Well each army has different limits. Each unit takes more up as the next and certain squads and armies. Like the space marines suad has a limit of 9 + a sergent + a hero of some type if you wish. while the Orks can have in a basic infantry unit a sergent, 14+ infantry and + hero. and Nobs and terminators cost more pop points. Terminators cost 5 pop and each Nob takes up 4 .... Orks get a pop limit of 99 infantry and everyone gets a vehicle limit of 20... tanks take up 3 points each. Land Raider 5. So the Space marines can build 4 land raiders and up to 40 pop of infantry.

I have seen up to 1000+ units on one field at once.

Normally maybe 5 squads fighting for one beginning battle. usually the enemy is trying to use cover and ambush the incoming enemy.

RaventheOnly
yes but the Eldar Council is better then them in hand to hand... but you can only have one council with up to i think 12 members.

BackFire
I don't like the style of the Eldar...too skinny and wierd looking.

RaventheOnly
DO NOT underestimate them... fear i got woopped easy by them on the net fear the teleporting ability is very dangerous.

tabby999
yeah, if they're anything like they are in the actual table top game they can be the most dangerous unit in the entire game. they have special abilitys to be able to retry their attacks because they can forsee the future and get more saving dice rolls because they can forsee their enemys next attack. add some really powerful mental attacks and some power weapons and they can take on most units (even a bloodthirster)

eleveninches
make your own space marine chapter:

http://uk.games-workshop.com/40kuniverse/warhammer40k/spacemarines/painter/default.htm

Arena Host
Warhammer 40K is one of my favorite RTSs. I love this game.

dark1365
Eldar are cool. Don't diss them.
I just use squads of Spec Ops(as i like to call them) space marines, both in DoW and the tabletop game. Works many a time.

ChickinMeat
got to get myself a copy of this game sometime, dont have the funds or the time to play it at the moment, which sucks bigtime

Mišt
Bumpy doped

Im thinking about getting this game....well, Ill be getting Mark of Chaos and I was thinking about maybe getting this too....but what is this game like? It looks pretty cool from what I've seen in screenshots, is it worth buying?

BackFire
Buy the new expansion set, Dark Crusade. It's supposed to be excellent, and you don't need the original game to play it.

Mišt
Really? Kick ass, Ill check it out w00t

doan_m
Backfire, you should mention next time that in multiplayer you can only play Tau and Necrons if you buy only Dark Crusade. You must acquire the original dawn of war to play the 4 original races online and the expansion if you want to play as the Guard online.

Mišt
Yeha I read that. I went to EB but the game doesnt come out for another 2 weeks weep

doan_m
another 2 weeks? Where do you live?

BackFire
I got Dark Crusade the other day and I'm loving the new campaign style. I wasn't a fan of the campaign in the other games, never really got into the story and what not.

The new races are both great, The Tau are awesome, but man, the Necrons are a bit overpowered. I can't see a decent player losing with the Necrons in a multiplayer match.

Kaled
Originally posted by RaventheOnly
in hell eek! the terminators can wipe the floor with any other infantry and use war hammers, they can even fight tanks one on one big grin ... they have personal teleporters and prior to that can be inserted anywhere on the map threw pod drop big grin

ANY other infanty?? how about possession squad, them chaos guys that have fire breath

not to mention the eldar council, witch blades, they can mess up anyone

Bardiel13
Originally posted by BackFire
I got Dark Crusade the other day and I'm loving the new campaign style. I wasn't a fan of the campaign in the other games, never really got into the story and what not.

The new races are both great, The Tau are awesome, but man, the Necrons are a bit overpowered. I can't see a decent player losing with the Necrons in a multiplayer match.

I did. They're actually quite balanced, but it takes it bit to get their style down. I've also won a few games with them. But, I'm a Tau player at heart. big grin

BackFire
I really like the Tau, I wish they had a turret, though.

Burning thought
isnt the Deamon prince the new unit for Chaos..whats he like, ime in UK so its not out for another week yet for me, however i love chaos so whats the Deamon prince like, how do u use him, surely hes a bit unbalanced due to the fact hes like a second super unit?

also how you get him, i want to know everything about it

darth_royke
i loved the original... but i havent got the time to get and play the expansions.... pain in ze booger.

too addicted to poker ion xbox live is the problem!

doan_m
Originally posted by BackFire
I really like the Tau, I wish they had a turret, though.

As a race, I despise the Tau hippies with all my heart.

Robby001
Yeah I would have to agree that the Tau are not my favorites either. I am space marines all the way. Has anyone played with the Grey Knights yet? How are they?

doan_m
http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=113630

I found this thread quite handy and useful. haven't got the game yet. I was about to today, but 3 eb game stores later they are all sold out. So I got annoyed and since I wanted a new game badly i resorted to buying Sim City (which is not bad, i would have rather have Dark Crusade)

Robby001
Wow thanks for that link. Great information there. Now I really can't wait until I get the game. Need to get a new computer first though, mine is a little slow for it. rip DAMN.

Can't wait though, I am a Space Marine man myself. Can't wait to see the grey knights in action.

Robby001
Found this pic of the grey knights while looking in that other forum. Now I really can't wait to play it.

doan_m
Well from what I hear, Dark Crusade runs MUCH better then winter assault, which was laggy as hell. If you downloaded the demo, you would be able to see this right away. A massive battle in Dark Crusade was about 5 times more smoother then a battle of the same magnitude in Winter Assault. Which is good news so i figure that you probably don't have to worry to much about upgrading your comp.

Robby001
Yeah I hope you are right but the real problem here is that in Both I am unable to run chaos. Computer always locks up. I need more memory only running 256.

Robby001
Apparently it also comes on a DVD. My comp doesn't have DVD drive. that has to have a ton of data on that thing. You do need to have the other two loaded to play correct?

RaventheOnly
Mark of Chaos Soon O >O

Robby001
Is that the one based on the fantasy side of War Hammer?

doan_m
Originally posted by Robby001
Apparently it also comes on a DVD. My comp doesn't have DVD drive. that has to have a ton of data on that thing. You do need to have the other two loaded to play correct?

From what I heard the game is a stand alone expansion meaning that you do not require the other two games. But if you want to enable the other 5 races online then you have to simply input your CD keys for the other two games into Dark Crusade(from what I hear)

doan_m
Originally posted by Robby001
Is that the one based on the fantasy side of War Hammer?

that would be the fantasy one. its not that well polished from what I hear, but I'm holding out hope for some redemptive qualities when I get that game.

Robby001
Finaly got it and Awesome is only one word I can think of how to describe it.

doan_m
Did ya now? Captured any strongholds yet? And which race did you play first.

Robby001
I played the space marines of course as they are my favorite. I have just only really started on it but have been fighting the damn Eldar quite a bit. I have them beaten back to a corner of the map. But they just keep trying to fight back out. Sad really but besides them i have only fought the Tau and the Imperial Guard. No one else as of yet.

doan_m
hmm, not bad. Well, I'm playing as the Tau right now (I'm going in order of least favorite race to most favorite race in that general order). I've already captured the Necron stronghold which wasnt really that intimidating to do until the Nightbringer came into play. (I dont play much what with the pressure of school and all). I'm making my next move to the IG since they present a real threat to my territories and to my attacking army thus far. Do you know what I could expect from them? And how are the eldar? From what I keep hearing online I hear there a real viscous ***** .

Robby001
I have destroyed the Eldar. When you land at there province the Eldar have two bases but they also set a trap for you with the orks. Then after you beat the orks and the Eldar front base. Choas Marines attack as well. So you are fighting a battle on both fronts.Not sure if the AI changes with the race that is being used. After that I have been fighting with the Necrons "they don't seem that tough as of yet." Have the imperial guard all but beat back to chaos island. The imperial guard at first not that tough but they seem to get worse after a while. The big problem that i have had with them is that when you are fighting on one front with them they will attack with an equally large force from the other side and try to take your base. Still trying figure why everywhere you attack seem to have two bases when all you can have is one. I am about to either finish off the Choas which i have yet to really fight a good battle with or the IG. Orks this far have not been too tough neither. The TAU is the toughest I have had to fight yet.

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