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nono

They're worse for you than real sugar

cry do you have ANY idea how many chemicals they got?

SCREW the calories, use real sugar!

omg nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

I'm writing a 3 page report on them
Aspartame is chemical poison people, don't use it cry

cry go girl!

sugar tastes better anyway

It's better for you
They may not have calories, but Aspartame contains methanol, a form of formeldehyde when heated above a certain temperature, so if you drink diet pop, and it's warm, be aware

o.O i got confused. Let's stick to te fact that it's bad, not go into it

Irene your the expert on the dumbest things

isnt formaledemyde the stuff they use on dead people?

Excuse you, this can very well save someone's life
Not to mention this is a biology report so it's homework....

It's an interesting piece of info for people who care, I mean alot of the side effects of artificial sweetners can be very bad for your health

yup

yeah... it was in a TSOL song 'Code Blue'

Whats next?

maybe a report into how fast moving trains can be bad for your helath

oh you're funny

Artificial fats

no really, the report would at least be entertaining

i always thought that artificial sweetners dont give u calories because they are large molecules that our bodies cannot digest, hence they arent used by the body and are simply pooped out (biology teacher was a bit crude). but this changes everything :s

Oh I thought it was about how blondes have less brain cells than other people jk

what do you actually use sweeteners for anyway? only use i can think of is coffee... and sugars better for that

Aspartame (NutraSweet and Equal etc) is about 180 times sweeter than sugar, and only a small does is plenty, but some diet drinks contain about 8 spoonfuls of the stuff

And it is broken down into these components, aspartic acid,
phenylalanine, and methanol.

methanol being the worst when heated

Who cares? disgust

Theres a huge trend now because they are said to be "non-caloric"
Some people are a little too weight concsious

I do since my cousin is diabetic and you have no clue how much of this shit she injests

no rob, that's the next one

This should be good

phenylalanine was in the coca cola version of water, and it was pulled in the uk cos of it causing cancer

can I use you as an example?

I stopped drinking diet drinks a while ago because of finding out how bad aspartame is, besides which my step-son has ADHD and it completely flips him!

Im not blonde

You'd be amazed how many products contain this stuff

good for you
diet drinks are worse to you than the real stuff
although I hate coke and all that crap anyways

yeah... but this was a high profile case, it kinda outlined it for me

The only problem is I preferred the taste of diet pepsi so now I just stick to beer!

Oh and Irene not been on together for ages sohug

For your information, the three things that aspartame is made of that I mentioned, are all toxic in high doses.

They taste ridiculously awful. It's like eating confectionary dirt.

Beer is made of natural stuff
And yes, it's been a while cryhug

Especially equal.

beers good for ya
it kills brain cells, but it doesnt give you a beer belly, beer contains no fatty ingredients

There's lots of them out there
Like Splenda the new one, Equal, NutraSweet, Equal Measure, Sweet and Low, and Sucaryl

wine's better, it's good for the blood

yeah - and corran say cos wine has fruit in, its good for ya

Well it'll do me no harm then!

If you absolutely must use them, from my reading, sucrolose is safest

i give people vital health advice

Not if you have it by the tonne...

just use real sugar or none at all?

well everything in good proportions

Well Honey is probably the best sweetener.

It's natural, it's an antibiotic, when applied to wounds it speeds healing and prevents infection, it can help with hayfever and most of all it's scrummy!

i assume ur referring to Dansai? that stuff was pulled cos it was refined tap water..not cos of adverse health effects. i dunno where u heard that phenylalanine causes cancer :s its in just about every food u can buy! go read the ingredients on chewing gum! phenylalanine is an amino acid, and u would die if u didnt have it in your body. the worse u can get from excessive consumption of the stuff is a sudden urge to shit (its a laxative in large quantities)

dont believe everything u read in The Sun

im not a solcredulist, it was on the bbc news... i never knew the name of it cos i never drunk it

it's actually toxic in high doses

and do you mean Dasani?

whateverrrrr

anyway, by the time uve drunk enough of the stuff for the phenyalanine to become toxic, u would have died of a brain haemmorhage

name one food/drink thats not toxic in high doses

Screw the calories use Artificial Sugar!

its nasty anyways

milk

lol...not if ur lactose intolerant

The synthesized chemical called ASPARTAME is the artificial sweetener that is used in many kinds of diet soda and other sweets. It has phenylalanine as an ingredient, but is itself a completely different chemical. Apartame can cause a wide range of side effects and is considered to be very unsafe by many people (including medical professionals). Some people complain that they get headaches, cramps, severe vomiting, seizures, etc... Indeed, when aspartame is heated it breaks down into a chemical that is comparable to wood alcohol (Don't ever drink a warm diet soda or consume any warm food that has aspartame in it!).

Lactose is a sugar

a sugar in milk that many people all over the world cant digest and hence cant drink milk, and if they do they experience stomach cramps and other horribleness

there's lactose free milk darling droolio

dont be cute

I hate diet soda's, they taste like toilet.

True, even water becomes poisonous if you drink enough of it!

thats impossible cry

True, there's something that just cant be changed!

hug

Yup who needs artificial sweeteners when Sils is around

droolio I at least dont cause cancer!

*slaps wrist and mutter "bad boy" to self*

I did a bit of research on this a while ago when I heard about the possible side-affects.

From what I remember, there was no scientific proof to backup the claims that its harmful.

Im curious now cry

Research in to this? I bet you were looking for alternative ways of getting people KMC hooked...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/ask_doctor/aspartame.shtml

I have sites you could visit

http://cis.nci.nih.gov/fact/3_19.htm
http://seasilver.threadnet.com/Preventorium/artifici.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/macbrucecordell/B1283663648/C22284971/E1643536965/
http://web.unbc.ca/chemistry/CHEM110/artificial.pdf

On of those may be about trans fats
forgot which

No dont cry it's not sad!

Tis naughty... naughty

I thought so

The only authoritive site there is the first link, and it says its safe

Oooh nice balaclava...

no it doesnt
not conclusively anyways, and the seocnd is written by a naturopathic doctor

I dont trust pharmaceutical company results

ninja is sexeh droolio

thankyou

When did the FDA become a pharmaceutical company?

But the fact is that there is no concrete or even solid scientific proof that its unsafe. Other wise the FDA would have banned it ages ago.

From the BBC page its only harmful to people with PKU:

I'm talking artificial sweeteners in general, some are banned in the states and Canada, I don't know about the Uk for that.

And the NutraSweet people make alot of money, the risk of banning this would be really great, I mean then all the diet drinks and stuff would go, they would lose millions upon millions.

Not to mention that people working for the FDA have in fact spoken out about aspartame.

And the FDA had approved others before, than after seeing the side effects was forced to ban them, I'm simply saying that I wouldn't consume them without a concrete reason, or advice from a physician.

To be honest Sils it's probably a conspiracy.
The FDA approve it cos they know that there's stockpiles of the stuff to get rid of and they know they cant pour it in the sea cos it'll kill the fish/whales ect so instead they put it into soft drinks and let us metabolise it.
Cheap, easy disposal....

I bet it is a conspiracy, if they lose so much money, they lose funding, the company that owns aspartame probably makes huge donations all over the place and therefore are allowed to slip by the system

But refined white sugars themselves are bad aswell. They raise insulin levels unnaturally and are one of the prime reasons for diabetes.

I avoid sugars as much as I can.

(BTW, moving this to the GDF - OTF doesn't seem appropriate)

I see no one commented on my bit about honey...

Well you're body needs sugar
Natural sugars like fructose, found in fruits is best obviously

another form of fructose

Sorry I meant refined sugars.

Fruits and honey are OK of course

artificial sweeteners

Those would be the least of my concerns regarding food.

Well trans fatty acids are up there too

Good point Storm, the content of metal in tinned food is really quite scary!

who in there right mind uses artificial sugar to begin with?

yeh if u ever open a tin of tuna, dont put it in the fridge in the tin, u'll get tin poisoning from where the can was cut

doesn't it contain mercury from the water too?

but it is added to a lot of food.
eg. drinks
and it can couse cancer

diet drinks

not only diet

cry but they have less calories!

Calories are evil ermm

You need a certain amount of calories droolio
Calories provide energy
Carbs too, you need carbs, none of this low-carb diets nono

It's proven that people who go onto a low carb diet, and then return to their normal eating habits will just regain their weight

and more
damn dr.atkins

Sils siggys are a worse threat to our health than any AS! winkiss

Write a 3 page report on that! diva

aspartame contains wood alcohol.

About your biterness about my fab siggys?
Already done baby winkiss