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This is Day 2 of the Draft. This thread is for two Enhanced Meta Characters. AKA two War Machine Level characters.

Those who haven't chosen their character for Herald level.

Kontraz (None of your choices are allowed)
Snakeeyes
Kain Phoenix

If you do not choose immediately in this thread, you are removed from the tournament and someone who wishes to join may take their place

Anyway BEGIN drafting!

Note: You need to provide better bios that have all of your needed information in it. Remember the bio needs to have history, list of powers and strengths, and the correct version of your character.

invisible woman

http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/invisiblewoman.htm

or

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/i/invisiblewoman.htm


Hell Spawn (AL SImmons)

http://spawn.home.sapo.pt/spawn.html

you need links or else it's not valid. until you do, someone who has info may take your choices. Which version of spawn is it?

Jean Grey - Picture

Green Lantern - Picture

P.s Im not sure if they r to powerful, i think they fit into this category though.

lol coming from the guy who thinks SS would anhialate him

Magneto and Hulk r in herald class?

yhea, by the way i suppose you choose kyle

Yea lol. But im taking those pics off. And i would of put Hulk and Magneto in this class...

i asked that because of magneto, if he was in this class, i would have pic him. but evangel said he was to powerfull for this class, wich is true, but against the heralds what can magneto do

That is true. I would definatley have put them in this level. But i aint hosting this thing lol.

Any Green Lantern is Herald Level.

That Spawn link doesn't give any information about his powers and what he uses. I do not want those kind of bios in this tournament. I need informative bios.

Aww come on, no way is GL herald level, neither is Hulk or Magneto.

invisible woman (Sue Richards)

http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/invisiblewoman.htm

or

http://www.marveldirectory.com/indi...isiblewoman.htm


Spawn (AL SImmons)

http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/spawn.htm

here it is all complete

just do a google search.

Hulk is defintely Herald level because of his strength.

GL's are definetely Herald level. Hal Jordan is top tier Green Lantern. Everyone else is mid-tier.

Magneto is low-end Herald level.

If your complaining, I would make my other team mates stronger to support a low end class Herald level guy.

Well i guess i need to pic a different person....

Jean Grey - Picture

Dr.Doom - Picture

Hope Dr.Dooms ok.

From now on, everyone will get their Bios from either

www.classicmarvel.com or www.marveldirectory.com

Classic Marvel has DC bios as well.

thank you, i was gonna choose Invisible Woman actualy, but i went for Jean

Spawn Bio looks good.

one of the tournament rules is that you have to choose at least a girl, so i choose invisible woman, other way i would had picked Doom. (talking about coincidence, lol)

Is someone like Mr. Fantastic or Thin Man considered War Machine or lower meta?

So far, I choose Blackbolt.

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/blackbolt.htm

Waiting for a response to the question in my previous post before I proceed with my second pick.

why does blackbolt need the fork in his head to channel his powers?

Blockbolt is Herald level. A single sustained whisper is enough to knock out the Hulk.

I would consider mr. fantastic meta maybe low e.meta. I don't really know of thin man. Get a link and post it. I would then make a decision.

Everyone, download the rules document attached and make sure you know it.

Thin Man has stretching powers such as Mr. Fantastic, Plastic Man or Elongated Man. He uses sub-space to twist, bend, elongate and controt his body in myriad ways. In addition to stretching via subspace, he can use subspace to teleport, and can flatten his body into nearly 2 dimensional proportions, rendering his own body razor sharp and a viable weapon. He's also remarked on having enhanced senses with which he can see through sub-dimensional barriers.

http://www.geocities.com/newinvaders/thinman.htm

Thin Man is e.meta

He can turn himself into a weapon and has much more skill and options available to him.

Mr. Fantastic aka Reed Richards is meta.

Reed has never displayed much skill except for stretching around here and there.

Surprised no one has done she hulk, thing,annihulus, doc samson or hercules, or have these guys increased in strength?

Do you actually have proof of this? Such as scans of the comic, issue number, summary of what happened?

With his tech and preptime he could take down namor.

In just plain combat, namor obviousely wins. What's reed gonna do to a guy that has taken a nuclear explosion, re-entry into the earth's atmosphere, and a beating from the savage hulk without injury?

Thanks for the clarification on Thin Man, and I shall choose him in addition to Black Bolt.

The fight was somewhat inconclusive. It was in Marvel Knights Fantastic Four #7 I believe. Reed distracted Namor, put 80% of his body's mass into his fist and hit Namor with it. For the rest of the fight, Namor pounded on Reed, but Reed went all jelly-like, so the blows could never land on hard flesh and hurt Reed.

exactly, i never read the story i know this because i have red it in here somewher, namor said reed was indestructible, something like that.

scarlet you have to choose one more

Scarlet, you cannot have blackbolt. His voice power puts him on herald level. Choose someone else.

People who have YET to choose ANYTHING! Not even chosen their Herald level choice yet.

Kontraz
SnakeEyes
Kain Phoenix

If you guys don't make a pick soon, Im going to give your spots away to people who are interested in the tournament. Anyone who wishes to take their spots, please PM me.

Sorry, I had not seen the previous post about Black Bolt.

If I cannot channel electrons, than I shall use photons!

Captain Marvel (Genis) at whichever level qualifies him for e.meta.

http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/captmarvel.htm

Cosmic Awareness and Negabands put him at Herald level. Choose again please.

Well, balls. I need time to reflect.

professor x
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/p/professorx.htm


Iron man
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/i/ironman.htm

Moonstone, Karla Sofen. Only one Moonstone as she had for most of her career and as she's reported with at this link.

http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/moonstone.htm

My list from most to least wanted, if I cant have one, cross him out and take the next one down.
Juggernaut; http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/j/juggernaut.htm
Mister Sinister; http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/mr_sinister.htm
Damage; http://www.dcuguide.com/Who/Damage_Bio.php
Optimus Prime; http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/o/optimusprime.htm

You can't have Prof X. His mind power is world-level and too much for this category.

You get Mr. Sinister then.

I thought we got two

Well you said pick one and that's what I did. If you want me to pick another one, then you get Damage.

ill pick holocaust
http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/holocaust.htm

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/h/holocaust.htm

and warmachine
http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/warmachine.htm

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/w/warmachinei.htm

Gideon

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/g/gideon.htm

Modred

http://www.vortex.bridgwater.ac.uk/mtlg/modredthemystic.htm

Nice choice

Um...ok. I didn't even know he was immortal.

but i need someone who can match up to sue richards. her invisibility powers are also very strong.

He's not immortal. That's just his name I believe. I was complimenting you on the copy cat powers.

ok, if not professor x can i then have shadow king?
http://classicmarvel.com/cast/shadowking.htm

if i still can't have shadow king then perhaps gamesmaster?
http://marveldirectory.com/individuals/g/gamesmaster.htm

and if all of them aren't allowed, id just pick cable(with techno virus) then.
http://marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/cable.htm

i would prefer them in this order. if one can't fit in then the next one is considered:

1. professor x
2. shadowking
3. gamesmaster
4. cable

but i still retain ironman though right?
http://marveldirectory.com/individuals/i/ironman.htm

They are all too powerful. Jean Grey is the limit in telepathy for this category (Enhanced Meta).

Yes you do get Iron Man.

Those copycat powers are cool. After Quasar gets stomped, one of my guys has to win.

Glad to see someone is thinking about strategy and not just some random powerful characters.

just cause he has their powers doesnt mean hes as skilled as the original user

ok ok. so could i just get regular cable with techno virus? i think he's just a notch lower than jean in telepathy...

http://marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/cable.htm

Very well, I will allow cable WITH the techno organic virus.

thanks thanks.

so what are the updated picks?

Actually, he can be better sometimes. He effectively used all the New Warriors powers against them - that's superspeed, superstrength, telekinesis, microwaves - all at once . He knew how to use Speedball's powers when Speedball didn't have any idea how to use them properly. I'm just saying.

u dont think ne one else is thinking of strategy? do u even know why i picked red shift?

I'm sure everyone has their own strategy.

ya, weaknesses are alowed right???

Yes, any natrual exploitable weakness such as Superman and kryptonite, Green Lantern and willpower, and Juggernaut and his weakness to psychic attack without the helmet.

by weaknesses i mean like kryptonite, red sun, and morgs weakness to iron

Morg doesn't have a weakness to iron.

my 2 characters for this one:

Iron Man
Colossus

www.marveldirectory.com/strengthlevels.htm

Iron Man is already taken, and you need specific links for all your characters.

where did you ever read that morg is weak against iron???

This site might help some of y'all:

http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/index.asp

So Ironman can beat Morg?

LOL no, I don't know what kind of weird stuff he's getting at. Morg has NO weakness to Iron.

Well, a few reasons:

1) Not enough time, I'm usually only online a couple of hours or a little more a day while I'm here

2) Too many rules to keep up with

3) Definitely won't find all the full blown bio sites for characters I'd want, not any that would seem to satisfy Evangel anyways.


It's a good idea, and I wanna see how it turns out. But, it's too much for me to deal with, I just don't have that much time, and I'd never get the characters I want with the limited sites out there anyways.

umm isnt morg a darkelf????? its either him or someone else who is, and all darkelfs (morg included)

and no iron man couldnt beat him, his suit isnt acualy made of iron, its something else

and are weaknesses like kryptonite alowd, cuz if there not, its kinda stupid, but still it would be realy hard to find some...

o sh*t, im a complete dumbass, i acidentaly confused morg with kurse for some strange reason, my bad

what if we dont want dc or marvel chars? I kinda wanna use some image, dark horse, and dreamwave.....

i think your alowed, spawn is in this, and classic marvel has some other comic bios in it.

and could we get a list of the picks so far

here's my first pic....

Sunstorm.

http://tfu.info/2003/Destron/Sunstorm/sunstorm.htm

that's the bio/stats for the TOY. I can't find the one for the comic (probably because he is a fairly new character), though they should be pretty much the same, only the numerical stats would be MUCH higher (though those are in porportion to other transformers, so it would be hard to compare to marvel and dc chars)

here's a pic from him in the comic...

http://www.transfandom.com/matrix/features/58/dw_sunstorm.jpg

u dont like dc and marvel do u?

my 2nd i guess is carnage. (see, i do like marvel as well)

http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/carnage.htm

i would much rather have toxin (the new guy from the venom vs carnage series) but i can't find any bios on him...

Marvel Heroes could kick anyones ass in Darkhorse!

yes, i'm sure captain america would do wonderfully against the mask....

Captain America wouldnt bother wasting any time with the mask, he'd probably rip it off and throw it into the ocean!

i think you should choose carnage to spiderman level, war-achine level is too much for him. just giving an opinion, but i think dr strange with be a much better choice then carnage.

well, seeing as carnage is stronger than spidey, and this choice is for guys BETWEEN spidey and war machine, he'd be too strong for the guys between cap. america and spidey.

as for the transformers, generally, i'd agree, but sunstorm fits in very nicely in the "super powers" category. I mean, he can hurl dbz-esque fireballs, energy blasts, etc, he can fly, he's extremely durable (and regenerative), and he's insane....

Too powerful for the e.meta category. Re-choose.

Kontraz, go with Wheelie! WHEELIE!

OKAY: Colossus and the Thing are my 2 choices

http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/colossus.htm

and http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/t/thing.htm

exelent, i cant loose

when is the spidey lvl, draft?

Only if your somehow capapble of producing kyrptonite, like the green lantern did.

i dont need to produce it.....

who choses who they fight against, U i presume?

woah... too powerful? Umm.... not to give away how weak this guy is or anything, but iron man (and probably war machine) would OWN this guy....

sweet, i chose war machine

well, i take that back... war machine would be an even match... iron man would beat him though

yayaya... iron man and war machine are acualy basicaly 100% equal in every way

for the most part, but slight differences in weaponry, armor, and speed give iron man the advantage over sunstorm here.... warmachine would be pretty even.