Galactus Vs The Celestials

Most people think that the celestials are maybe the most powerful beings alive or at least equal to Galactus witch is not true. Galactus would consume celestial eggs witch were planets witch stoped the Celestial population from spreading over the universe. Later The Dreaming Celestial was going to use him to kill the other celestials......but the dreaming celestial got eaten himself by Galactus.....the Dreaming Celestial is said to be the most powerful maybe only in exception to Exitar.... but durning the war between the Watchers and the Celestials Exitar battled HE WHO SUMMONS the leader of the Watchers he was just a little stronger i think, keep in mind one watcher is enough to fend off The Stranger and the Watchers have always Feared Galactus and spoken of him as the most powerful being ever and since they personally have fought the celestials and still say that Galactus is the most powerful being alive.......they probably are right since this was said after the war.....so you decide who would win.

i think the celestials are more powerful. when battleing -like- opponents the celestials have a much easier time 😉

galactus has been repelled by odin, yet a single celestial humbled odin and zues combined. they are higher up on the heirarchy than galactus is.

where did you read that about celestials being consumed by galactus??? and the celestials/watchers battle???

Against ALL the Celestials, Galactus would be overpowered. 1 on 1 or probably even 2 on 1, Galactus could hold his own.

I never really saw the Watchers being on the same power level as the Celestials so the war between the two has always been a little lopsided to me. I saw the Watchers and Celestials assembled for a fight in an FF comic but I'm not sure which comic the war actually took place in.

Again, marvel is not clear on the matter.

In Marvel Universe: The End, Galactus expresses awe as an omnipotent Thanos destroys a Celestial, implying that's something he couldn't do. I dunno, my bets on Galactus...just cuz.

As for Galactus being repelled by odin...uh, things have changed a bit in the MU since then. How would Asgard fair against Galactus? I think no better than Mephisto...who trapped Galactus in his realm, and so SS gave the big guy an idear: hey, why not start feasting. So as Galactus started to feed, Mephisto pretty much gave up....anyhow, the 'Gods' are only one step above human super heroes..and haven't really been able to demonstrate power that can be applied across the cosmos (like say the cosmic cubes or the Big G can).

The gods are only one step above human super hereos?? What an incredibly wrong statement. The gods are significantly above every human hero except for the Hulk. Odin and Zeus are above cosmic level beings like the Silver Surfer and all the other heralds. Galactus is right at the top of the cosmic hierarchy *though some of you are forgetting Eternity and Living Tribunal, who are above Galactus.* Galactus could repel a single Celestial, whether he could destroy it or not, but he probably wouldn't be able to take on the entire race. Then again, that's not a fair match-up, as Galactus has difficulty taking on the entire human race. Nevertheless, the gods are vastly above human super heroes, and HAVE demonstrated power that is applied across the cosmos.

Originally posted by Mider
The Dreaming Celestial was going to use him to kill the other celestials......but the dreaming celestial got eaten himself by Galactus

I think the scene you are referring to is when the Dreaming Celestial manipulated Galactus' structure and made his hunger even more vast that he needed to consume the entire universe. Galactus made a device to assist him in consuming more, but it was the Dreaming Celestial that was tricked (I think it was by the Fantastic Four) into being consumed too. Galactus' sanity was restored by the heroes and he committed suicide. This was alernate universe though.

I think Galactus is more powerful than a single celestial or two, but he doesn't have the "battery life" to take on a whole onslaught of them.

As to Asgardians injuring Galactus, the definition of Galactus' power has changed since then. During his battle with Ego, Thor was even able to hurt him. That feat would not happen with the current Galactus.

Celestials to me are like Ego the living planet. A strong second but, second just doesn't touch first. I think Galactus can stand well on his own. I believe what the starter said about their encounters. I see the Celests as citys compared to Galactus as the world. He could just quake and reduce them. 🪩
The God's, they are a part of the Universe. I see their power as One who rules his own "World" No small feat to be sure but not really in the big league.
I know they had to create their own "Universe" for their world to exist but that doesn't put them on par with the "Universe" anymore than giving birth to a child makes Man God.

Originally posted by Mider
(...) keep in mind one watcher is enough to fend off The Stranger and the Watchers have always Feared Galactus and spoken of him as the most powerful being ever and since they personally have fought the celestials and still say that Galactus is the most powerful being alive.....

I still say Galactus is stronger since the Dreaming Celestial was supposed to be the most powerful and as i said before even the Watchers were ALMOST match for the Celestials. And ask for Odin, Zues and the others that doesnt count, they derived there powers from worship back in there own era thats diffrent now. Thanos can hold his own against Odin. Galactus never had a problem consumming the human race if it was not for Utau who warned the Fantastic Four and told them about the ultimate nullifier they would have been consumed. There is also supposidly an isue were Galactus does finally consume the earth.

Another thing is that it may or may not be true but it is sometimes said that Zues, and Odin were actually created by the Celestials through evolution of course so of course the Celestials would defeat them.

The heralds of BigG are pretty much humanoids endowed with power from a celestial being. Silver Surfer fairs poorly against other cosmic powers (in betweener, kubik, korvac, etc). Surfer, Warlock, Mar-vell have similar 'powers' or are at least in the same family of powers. Galactus, Celestials, Watchers, etc. are far above them.

As for the Gods being far above humans, (with exception of hulk?!?!), I don't know. Never seen anything to suggest otherwise...meaning to say that the Gods are right above Humans and FAR below Galactus, Celestials, etc. When did they demonstrate otherwise? (Just curious, not really a challenge) I mean, fine, Thor took on one-half of the inbetweener in a really, really bad avengers story. But hey, the IB really wasn't himself ;-)

As for Galactus vs. the Dreaming Celestial, something was strange about Galactus....I think he was HUGE and pretty much sucking up the whole universe...can't remember how he go that way.

I thought Exitar was the most powerful Celestial, he's like twice or thrice the size of a normal one.

yea the dreaming celestial made Galactus manifest the properties he is supposed to in the distant future...on that level he would easily crush the Celestials...Galactus' power is variable...if he consumed enough planets, and maybe celestials, he would be ready to take on their whole race...by the way Galactus is one of the only beings older than the celestials and he also has more advanced technology and intelligence. He is a force of nature and the celestials are just a race of really advanced beings...created by Eternity...however, eternity and Galactus refered to each other as "brother" during the Shi'ar's trial of Reed Richards. Dreaming Celestial increased Galactus in FF...an issue in the late 300's...Glactus destroyed Earth when FF had no UN in the last issue of FF in the "nobody gets out alive" saga...watchers and celestials have always been battling apparently, but they showed it in FF #400.

The gods are below Galactus and the Celestials and Eternity as well. But that does not mean they are not cosmic level. Zeus and Odin are far above Silver Surfer and any other herald. They have demonstrated powers capable of repelling Galactus, that is sufficient evidence. Current Thor is vastly more powerful than old Thor, so it wouldn't work to say that couldn't happen with current Galactus. They don't derive their powers from humans worshipping them, they don't need humans to have their power. Again, no mortal hero other than Hulk is even close to the gods. Galactus is above them, but not FAR above them. That's obvious to anyone who knows about the gods.

Originally posted by wrathofachilles
Zeus and Odin are far above Silver Surfer and any other herald. They have demonstrated powers capable of repelling Galactus, that is sufficient evidence.

I dunno about that. Wasn't this back in the day when Thing was manhandling galactus in the streets of new york? I think we should keep up to date. The Big G has seen serious power increases, while the Gods have stayed the same or have even been depowered a bit.

current Thor is vastly more powerful than old Thor, so it wouldn't work to say that couldn't happen with current Galactus.

Or vice versa I suppose...Thor's powers haven't been really compared to others yet. It's still open to a writers whim...heck they could make Thor the new LT if they like.

Again, no mortal hero other than Hulk is even close to the gods.

Wasn't Desak a mortal given God-energy absorbing powers? He's somwhat like SS in that manner. What about Drax? Dr. Strange fights with Doramammu (or whatever the heck his name is), and he's supposidly on par with the Gods. Jugs. beat up the God from which his powers came from (pfft...whatever...but it happened)...and he survived an odin force blast...in fact it didn't really stop him either.

Galactus is above them, but not FAR above them. That's obvious to anyone who knows about the gods.

Given Glactus's actions in Mephisto's own realm (who IS on par with the Gods, if not above), I still fail to see how an updated Galactus will find any meaningful resistance in Asgard or Olympus.

I don't know when it was, but Thor and Odin have repelled Galactus on separate occasions. The gods have not been depowered. Thor has been greatly increased in power. I know he hasn't been compared to others, but you can compare old Thor to others and new Thor to old Thor. Of course he's not going to be Living Tribunal, that would make things a bit out of wack. I don't know Desak. Drax is not on the gods level, he's not even on Silver Surfer's level. Nor is Dr. Strange. Loki is superior to him in magic. Juggernaut is a villain, I was talking about heroes. There are plenty of villains that are on the gods level: Jugs, Mephisto, Thanos, Apocalypse, etc. The godforce blast did stop Juggernaut though. It pushed him back actually.

i know lots of people have heard of Thor repelling Galactus with the Odinforce...but i dont think anyone has read it from the looks of these ambiguous responses...but it was a desparately weakened galactus...Odin has said that Galactus is on a higher level than himself and he was the first person to refer to Galactus as a force of nature during the trial of Reed Richards

I don't think I've actually read where Thor DID it, but I've read Thor mention it several times. He's not going to lie about it. I know Galactus is above the gods, I said that.

Dont the Celestials have a law about killing there kids or something? im just wondering if its true why havent they retaliated since Galactus has eaten there "eggs" you could say.

i'm still in firm belief that even a single celestial is more powerful. i'm going to quote somebody, i didnt say this, but we were discussing this very issue.

"Well,going by their performances against like opponents I think the Celestial would be an easy pick. A single Celestial has shown it has power enough to defeat peers of Galactus and do so with a single gesture. "

: who are some of thier "like"
: opponents. just as a basis for comparison.
:

"Galactus has been overwhelmed and forced to retreat by Ego the living planet,a Celestial can play with planets like marbles. Galactus battles Earth's heroes,the best efforts of Earth's heroes can barely get any kind of reaction from a Celestial at all and they could eliminate the heroes with a thought. Galactus tried to attack Odin and Asgard and was repelled. A single Celestial not only decimated Asgard,but Asgard,Nirvana,and Olympus all at the same time with one flex of it's power while Odin,Vishnu,and Zeus stood powerless to stop him. Their power combined had no effect on the Celestial whatsoever.

And those are just the lower Celestials... "

": it could
: have also been galactus in a weakened state.
: also wasnt galactus and ego galactus weakened
: also???

They've fought more than once. Once Galactus was trying to eat him,so you could argue Galactus was weak there. On another Galactus was at normal levels and still was forced to retreat. "

"A Celestial humbling Odin,Vishnu,and Zeus all at once was in Thor #300. That's the only one who's issue number I can cite offhand"

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