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Silver surfer fused with the carnage symbiote

VS

King Thor

I think this has been done before. Either way, King Thor is vastly more powerful than Silver Surfer. The Carnage symbiote doesn't help.

Agreed.

THe carnage symbiote would probably actually weaken silver surfer, as SS is way more powerful than the symbiote, so merging with it would just weaken him.

King Thor as things currently are.

I'm still waiting for a list of feats King Thor has done, esp. outside asgard or any mystic realm. Would greatly appreciate one...thx.

cosmic > magic imo

Off the top of my head, he defeated a vastly powerful cosmic biological being capable of destroying planets (not galactus) and trapped it inside the center of the moon.

Defeated Savage Hulk & Thing with one arm. He didn't use the odinforce.

Smashed the asgardian destroyer armor (inhabited by desak and the power of countless other gods) with a single hammer throw.

no offence dude, but u realy should consiter making battles with characters that acualy exist...

no one knows how the symbiote would react with the surfer, so this arguement is usless

what are u talking about?....the Symbiote already possessed the surfer...it wanted revenge for Surfer bringing Galactus to a planet its race once populated.

realy? well, my bad, sorry light

haha...yea its ok...it was in amazing spiderman, dont know which issue number, but i have it

Oh yea, King Thor also conquered Earth and defeated all heroes who opposed him.

Cool. By any chance would you have issues #s as well? I'd like to read up a bit...see what's going on in Thor land before I read #85. I've dropped out a while back...right when Thor moved Asgard above NY....(i.e. right when it was getting good).

But I must admit, I smell major cheese here. I mean...if this being is capable of destroying a planet...how the heck could you trap the thing in a moon?!?! Savage hulk (I assume you mean dumb hulk and not the completely savage hulk that destroyed Onslaughts physical form) and thing with one arm..why the heck didn't he trap those guys in middle of the Moon? Ahh well...I shall read... :-)

i think he used some sort of magical bariar to stop him from escaping, and he didnt want to kill hulk and thing, he just wanted them to go away

Wait...I think I read some of those. The planet destroying alien was banished by Thor...that event was being described in the past tense right? Nah, wasn't impressed by that. Not enough was known about the alien. And wasn't Thor in possession of his enhanced power when he took on Pagan with the Avengers (and lost)? I can't remember, but I have those issues...shall look it up when I get the time.

And as for Thor's take over of earth, well, I was reading the story where they didn't describe the details of the take over....did they ever?


But gotta admit...smashing the destroyer with Desak IN it is totally badass. 'Nuff said, as they say :-)

the destroyer armour alone is a hard fight for SS

Where in the world did you get that from? Thor asked them to leave, they didn't so he killed them. Dr. Strange revealed his trump card. A gift from the combined gods of earth that prevented thor from using his odinforce during the fight. Thor also didn't have the mjolnir at the time either. He was injured and couldn't use his left arm for the whole fight. He could only use his brute strength and his right arm to battle a savage hulk and pissed off thing. He killed them and laughed about it afterwards.

o, lol, i was just guessing,

so king thor is evil?

He believed he was "doing the right thing".

and eva, u said that we would be able to message our tournement stratagies to you encase we are not there to post them in time, can i send you mine?, its kinda long

The destroyer armor would obliterate SS with one shot.

And Hulk...remember an issue where hulk gets his head kicked in by the armor. Literally.

I don't think SS has ever battled the Destroyer...

When did that happen?

there was an alternate timeline/universe thing where red shift killed the destroyer armour

when did this happen???

impressive...... when did it happen???




impressive...... when did it happen???



Sma


no so impressive....... uru isnt all that tough by itself. it is only as durable as the enchantments that make it so. thor could easily counter/take away those enchantments then destroy the destroyer.

of coarse i havnt read it, but if i were thor, i'd just cancel the enchantments then destroy it. -seems- like an impressive feat on the surface. but dig a little and you never know what you might learn......

when did hulk and the destroyer fight????

When that military guy posessed the Destroyer. It was one of his more recent appearances.

Is that when Destroyer killed SS in one shot, or is this a separate incident? Sorry, I'm a bit confused.

Uru is too 'all that tough.' The enchantments strengthen it, but don't dismiss uru as tinfoil or anything. It's extremely strong. And Thor did all those things in fairly recent issues of Thor. He impaled Hulk, they didn't really say he was dead though. He was just lying at Thor's feet. Either way, he beat him.

um i dont think the destroy killed SS, he could kill him in one shot, but he didnt

the redshift thing happend on that crazy thing galactus made after galactus died

Okay, the planet devouring alien was dubbed the 'gardner', and it was in Thor #57. The alien was using the moon to transfer solar energy down to earth to terraform it to the alien's liking.

The machine placed so much stress on the moon, the moon pretty much crumbled apart. Thor called upon the odin force, reassembled the moon, and put the alien in the center of it (like how odin placed Sutur in the Earth).

Another thing we learn in this issue: that was the up most limit of King Thor's power. That's it. He fell back to earth it took so much out of him. The narrator said it quite clearly, he used the odinforce to the max.

In issue 60, thor has his little meeting with the odinforce posing as his father, and the odinforce makes the comment that he's not using his force to it's full potential. I thought this was clearly contradicting the events in 57, however in re-reading it's clear the odinforce was accusing thor of using his powers too bluntly, and without purpose. So I think we have a clear indication of what King Thor is capable of at most.

Not even close to a cosmic cube (like I suspected), but still, it's quite impressive!

So, I'm curious now, between issues 61-85 did King Thor do anything else which contradicts the above post?

-thx

I have had agonizing trouble breaking the deadlock, in my mind between these two. But now it's easier. King Thor takes it.